[Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY

2011-11-06 Thread Peter Gluck
My Dear Friends, Please read my regular issue of INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/11/informavores-sunday-no-480.html It is a pleasure to discover, especially to discover new aspects, surprising features of old ideas and ancient concepts. Some 3 years ago I wrote an

Re: [Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY

2011-11-06 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 06.11.2011 09:43, schrieb Peter Gluck: My Dear Friends, Please read my regular issue of INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/11/informavores-sunday-no-480.html It is a pleasure to discover, especially to discover new aspects, surprising features of old ideas and

Re: [Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY

2011-11-06 Thread Peter Gluck
OK, as far as you refer to science; can you tell a few absolute truths re Cold Fusion or LENR except they exist? If you have time please continue with lists of absolute truths from technology, management, religion (there are~ 11500 religions all claiming to be absolute truth), philosophy, ethics,

Re: [Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY

2011-11-06 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 06.11.2011 13:19, schrieb Peter Gluck: OK, as far as you refer to science; can you tell a few absolute truths re Cold Fusion or LENR except they exist? If you have time please continue with lists of absolute truths from technology, management, religion (there are~ 11500 religions all

Re: [Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY

2011-11-06 Thread Peter Heckert
Let me give an example of a truth that cannot been proven and cannot been disproven: Commonly known is the Goldberg conjecture: Any even number can be represented by the *sum* of two primes. This conjecture is unproven but a counter example was not discovered despite intense search and

Fw: [Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY

2011-11-06 Thread John Harris
- Original Message - From: John Harris johnharri...@dodo.com.au To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY - Original Message - From: Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de In natural science and technology lies

Re: [Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY

2011-11-06 Thread Peter Gluck
In such kind of friendly discussions, it is polite tio answer all questions, not only some selected ones. However perhaps it will be better to speak about usable truths, those that can be put to work to us. If it is about truth re Cold Fusion, I will ask you to take a look to the 2005 Survey made

Re: Fw: [Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY

2011-11-06 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 06.11.2011 13:56, schrieb John Harris: - Original Message - From: John Harris johnharri...@dodo.com.au To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY - Original Message - From: Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de

Re: [Vo]:Krivit's transcript of Rossi's Ah Ha moment, a cheap shot. (Part 2 of 2)

2011-11-06 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 11/06/2011 12:58 AM, Man on Bridges wrote: Hi, Don't know if this is of any help at all, but take a look at the following page. How to tell if someone is telling a lie or lying: Viewzone See: http://viewzone2.com/liarx.html I wouldn't mind she lied to me a couple of times :-D Although,

Re: [Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY

2011-11-06 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 11/06/2011 09:31 AM, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 06.11.2011 13:19, schrieb Peter Gluck: OK, as far as you refer to science; can you tell a few absolute truths re Cold Fusion or LENR except they exist? If you have time please continue with lists of absolute truths from technology, management,

Re: [Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY

2011-11-06 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 06.11.2011 14:25, schrieb Peter Gluck: In such kind of friendly discussions, it is polite tio answer all questions, not only some selected ones. However perhaps it will be better to speak about usable truths, those that can be put to work to us. I would like to do so, unfortunately I cannot

Re: [Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY

2011-11-06 Thread John Harris
- Original Message - From: John Harris johnharri...@dodo.com.au To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 10:38 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY - Original Message - - Original Message - From: Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de In

[Vo]:How do we know Fioravanti is not a fake?

2011-11-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mary Yugo asked me, how do we know for sure that any of this information provided by Rossi on Oct. 28 is real? None of the invited scientists and press people had any access to any sort of meters or measuring devices She has a valid point. As I said here, we do not know for sure. The Oct. 6 test

Re: [Vo]:Could undetected nuclear isomers explain any LENR?

2011-11-06 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 11/06/2011 02:49 AM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: I am not sure which, if any, nickel isotopes admit isomeric states. Perhaps, electrodes, container walls, or contaminants in nickel (or palladium) could be the source of some yet unidentified isomers. I am quite perplexed that

Re: [Vo]:Could undetected nuclear isomers explain any LENR?

2011-11-06 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 11/06/2011 12:09 PM, Mauro Lacy wrote: On 11/06/2011 02:49 AM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: I am not sure which, if any, nickel isotopes admit isomeric states. Perhaps, electrodes, container walls, or contaminants in nickel (or palladium) could be the source of some yet unidentified

Re: [Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY

2011-11-06 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 11/06/2011 11:41 AM, John Harris wrote: - Original Message - From: John Harrisjohnharri...@dodo.com.au To:vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 10:38 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY - Original Message - - Original Message - From:

Re: [Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY

2011-11-06 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 11/06/2011 12:49 PM, Mauro Lacy wrote: On 11/06/2011 11:41 AM, John Harris wrote: - Original Message - From: John Harrisjohnharri...@dodo.com.au To:vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 10:38 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY - Original

Re: [Vo]:Could undetected nuclear isomers explain any LENR?

2011-11-06 Thread pagnucco
Thanks for your thoughts and suggestions, Mauro. - I will check into Beene's posts on the topic. One last question I wonder about is whether any certain symmetry in an isomeric nucleus insures that a decay to ground state will cause emission of multiple less energetic quanta in order to respect

Re: [Vo]:Krivit's transcript of Rossi's Ah Ha moment, a cheap shot. (Part 1 of 2)

2011-11-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: For Krivit to have produced a technically accurate word-for-word translation of Rossi's broken English, a typical Rossi-reply which was filled with Italian inflections, and pauses, and umms, and as and ehs, was in my opinion

[Vo]:Terrible flooding in Italy

2011-11-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASiLOIGAjKsfeature=related

Re: [Vo]:Krivit's transcript of Rossi's Ah Ha moment, a cheap shot. (Part 1 of 2)

2011-11-06 Thread Peter Gluck
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: For Krivit to have produced a technically accurate word-for-word translation of Rossi's broken English, a typical Rossi-reply which was filled with

[Vo]:Elementary, dear Copernicus!

2011-11-06 Thread Harry Veeder
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2058054/Elementary-dear-Copernicus-Three-new-members-join-periodic-table.html?mid=52070 Elementary, dear Copernicus! Three new members join the Periodic Table By Anthony Bond Last updated at 9:08 PM on 5th November 2011 Schoolchildren now have a

Re: [Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY

2011-11-06 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 06.11.2011 18:36, schrieb Peter Gluck: The subject absolute truth is too great for me especially during weekends. Indeed. Im still looking for an adaequate expression. What I mean is the absolutest that we can recognize. This is physical reality itself. Without it there are no letters,

Re: [Vo]:Krivit's transcript of Rossi's Ah Ha moment, a cheap shot. (Part 1 of 2)

2011-11-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: I am really far from being a Rossi-fan but this is a kitschy trick, irrelevant and inefficient, and the natural reaction is contrary to that expected by the reporter. The reporter meaning Krivit? I expect exactly this kind of thing from him, but

Re: [Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY

2011-11-06 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 06.11.2011 18:36, schrieb Peter Gluck: What I wrote is connected to a subject more popular here these days. The future is unknown, but perhaps it could be useful to )re) read the play OXYGEN by Djerassi and Hoffman http://www.djerassi.com/oxygen11/oxygen.htm I have translated it in

Re: [Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY

2011-11-06 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 06.11.2011 21:07, schrieb Peter Heckert: Am 06.11.2011 18:36, schrieb Peter Gluck: What I wrote is connected to a subject more popular here these days. The future is unknown, but perhaps it could be useful to )re) read the play OXYGEN by Djerassi and Hoffman

[Vo]:Inverted Rydberg Matter

2011-11-06 Thread Jeff Driscoll
Regarding ultra dense deuterium, George Miley and Leif Holmlid:  In Rydberg matter: -  the electrons and protons are inverted in terms of a metal (though not clear what this means) - the distance between nuclei in the planar Rydberg matter made from deuterium is on the order of 150 picometers. 

Re: [Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY

2011-11-06 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 11/06/2011 05:07 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 06.11.2011 18:36, schrieb Peter Gluck: What I wrote is connected to a subject more popular here these days. The future is unknown, but perhaps it could be useful to )re) read the play OXYGEN by Djerassi and Hoffman

[Vo]: October 28 Established ECAT System Facts

2011-11-06 Thread David Roberson
I would like to have access to the known facts associated with the latest test of the 1 MW ECAT system. Is it possible for us as a group to keep a list of what we know must be true about the test and other facts that influence the measured performance? I am including a beginning list that

[Vo]:Book: Rossi's eCat

2011-11-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: http://www.xecnet.com/publish.htm Book blurb: Featured Book Our featured book is John Michell's new book Rossi's eCat - Free Energy, Free Money, Free People. Out Now! 2011 – And an amazing technology has been developed in Italy which has been described as the greatest scientific

Re: [Vo]:Book: Rossi's eCat

2011-11-06 Thread Robert Leguillon
*facepalm* The year 0 P.R. (Post Rossi)? I hope the horse will overtake the cart, and regain it's rightful station. Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: See: http://www.xecnet.com/publish.htm Book blurb: Featured Book Our featured book is John Michell's new book Rossi's eCat - Free

RE: [Vo]:Book: Rossi's eCat

2011-11-06 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
The internet has provided a critical impulse of momentum to the E-Cat saga... Now the cart is rolling downhill and has run over the horse! The ONLY thing that will stop it is a tree (clear evidence that the E-Cat is all a scam). Like the Prez of Iceland recently said, The internet is more

[Vo]:Some thoughts about preparation of nickel powder

2011-11-06 Thread kulintsov
Hello, I'm new here and my English is not very well. Sorry for any mistakes. Rossi mentioned nickel-62 and nickel-64 isotope enrichment in an interview and in his patent http://www.google.com/patents?id=84vwEBAJzoom=4dq=rossi%20nickel%20hydrogenpg=PA1#v=onepageqf=false prepared powder

Re: [Vo]:Book: Rossi's eCat

2011-11-06 Thread David Roberson
I continue to be amazed at the timidity of the main press. They must have been burned so badly during the P F saga that the flames have not all died down. But I am afraid that another burden is placed upon the press that is difficult to remove. The mainline physics community has not come

Re: [Vo]:Some thoughts about preparation of nickel powder

2011-11-06 Thread Berke Durak
Hi Pasha, Could you give an estimate for the energy required for preparing 10 kg of nickel following that procedure? Rossi claims 200 W.h is sufficient. -- Berke Durak

[Vo]:What About the Gaskets?

2011-11-06 Thread Terry Blanton
I have kinda joked on whether The Customer (TC) took delivery on the MCat; but, it really is a good question. TC stipulated that AR would have to replace the leaky gaskets as a condition of sale. Has this been addressed on JoNP or elsewhere yet? Now, if TC was real, he would about now be

[Vo]:Klaatu Barada Nikto

2011-11-06 Thread Terry Blanton
Earlier, I asked if AR would fulfill his promise to send money to fight childhood cancer. Well, it seems someone else also wonders. klaatu November 6th, 2011 at 12:30 PM Dear Dr. Rossi Thank you again for the considerate answer to the previous question. Why the second one did not survive

Re: [Vo]:Book: Rossi's eCat

2011-11-06 Thread fznidarsic
How can there be a book? This story has not even unfolded. Frank Znidarsic

Re: [Vo]:Some thoughts about preparation of nickel powder

2011-11-06 Thread kulintsov
If we are talking about separation only, then we must start with evaporating of approximately 30 kg of nickel carbonyl. http://books.google.com/books?id=Sfvbgvu9OQMCpg=PA583source=gbs_toc_rcad=4#v=onepageqf=false You need 4 MJ or 1.1 kW.h for vaporization only But this substance is very volatile

Re: [Vo]:Some thoughts about preparation of nickel powder

2011-11-06 Thread kulintsov
But you know, this process is just one step longer than the typical one for making nickel metal from nickel ore: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mond_process On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 8:06 AM, kulintsov kulint...@gmail.com wrote: If we are talking about separation only, then we must start with

Re: [Vo]:New Forbes article by Gibbs

2011-11-06 Thread Jouni Valkonen
Yet another article. This time I think that there will be some complaints from cold fusion community. Mark did not get everything correctly, but understanding the subtleties scientific method is difficult. Science is very easy and simple on paper, but in practice it is much harder. Waiting for

Re: [Vo]:Book: Rossi's eCat

2011-11-06 Thread Jouni Valkonen
I bought that book some weeks ago, although I have not yet read it fully. (Less than half) Perhaps I should finish it and perhaps I should write a review. Somehow as I have new iPad I have found it hard to concentrate on paper book. Feels so primitive and outdated user interface. Although it is

[Vo]:Minor progress

2011-11-06 Thread Horace Heffner
I continue to plod along on a simulation of prospective E-cat designs to fit the 6 Oct 2011 Rossi test results. I have simulated various combinations of materials for thermal storage and have found that a couple slabs of ordinary Portland cement with a heating resistor sandwiched between

Re: [Vo]: October 28 Established ECAT System Facts

2011-11-06 Thread Andrea Selva
Hi David how do you consider *facts* these data ? All we have in our hands are Rossi's claims. 2011/11/6 David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com I would like to have access to the known facts associated with the latest test of the 1 MW ECAT system. Is it possible for us as a group to keep a list

Re: [Vo]:Inverted Rydberg Matter

2011-11-06 Thread Axil Axil
*There is a very good chance that both the non-inverted Rydberg matter abbreviated as D(1) and the inverted Rydberg matter abbreviated as D(-1) are both coherent assemblages of around 100 atoms more or less and that the entanglement an coherence of these assemblages are determinative in the way