I think you should have talked more about how Ed Storms is wrong and how
you are right.
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Let's get right down to the study of antennas and *Antenna Basics*.
Suppose one day you're walking down the street and a kind but
You forgot pulse repetition factor and pulse duration in the case where you
want to transmit high power levels and induce strong, quickly changing
electromagnetic fields, but not cook people or maybe melt your powder
(immediately)
On Sunday, July 27, 2014, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Kevin
The remark you placed is not fair against R.Mills
(If you place your bet on Miills, you put it on someone with an incredibly
lousy history. Period).
Please read my argumentation:
From the beginning R.Mills knew that fractional quantum states of hydrogen
were possible.
His theory
I get it that there is plenty doubt about Mills' current claims due to his
prior track record. Personally, I find Mills often coming off as arrogant,
particularly in his terse responses to posts in the yahoo
[SocietyforClassicalPhysics] group. He is no friend of LENR research either,
that is
But didn't Edison have an incredibly lousy history before he perfected his
lightbulb?
Didn'tt Einstein fail high school algebra before he created the beautifully
elegant language of Relativity mathematics?
PERIOD.
Don't get me wrong, I want Mills to fail. That would give my wave-powered
Where, in the most recent demo video, is the calorimetry?
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:54 AM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
But didn't Edison have an incredibly lousy history before he perfected
his lightbulb?
Didn'tt Einstein fail high school algebra before he created the
Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
But didn't Edison have an incredibly lousy history before he perfected his
lightbulb?
No, he had a fabulous history. He was one of the successful and celebrated
inventors in history by 1879, with breakthroughs in telegraphy, the
phonograph and
Point is, he had a long string of failures before his successes. But feel free
to disagree with me. I won't hold it against you.
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: Jed Rothwell
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a
Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, the input is 5v x 10,000A or 5J for the short duration.
Why is there a question that the explosion can achieve a high COP. In
this case, it appears to be 100.
I am not sure where the controversy is. COP appears to be clearly
overunity.
Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
Point is, he had a long string of failures before his successes. But feel
free to disagree with me. I won't hold it against you.
What do you mean failure? Commercial failures? No, his inventions nearly
always made money. If you mean he went through
I wrote:
What do you mean failure? Commercial failures? No, his inventions nearly
always made money. If you mean he went through several potential designs
for the lightbulb . . .
He also had some epic demonstration failures in 1878 and '79, when
investors visited his house to see the light
Mills should have spent 5 or 10 minutes introducing the experiment and
listing all of the materials and the potential chemical energy from various
ways of reacting them. That is what McKubre did in his first book about
cold fusion, as I described here on p. 12:
He does have validators saying that
If I remember correctly, it is about 2/3 to 3/4 of the way on video 1. A guy
named Jim??? did the bomb calorimetry and he showed the output graph of the
temp rise which he calculated to be around 623+ J. Randy then explain that the
input power was around 200+ J because the fuel was enclosed
I blamed Mills for revealing too much in his demos, now you are asking him to
reveal more secrets. I don't think that's wise. If he will have any
commercial success at all, he must learn how to keep his secrets a little
better.
We as outside observers will have to be content with what Mills
The Sun Cell has all the indicators of a LENR system: arc discharge,
nanoparticles, and EMF output. Rather than infrared output as seen in the
NiH system, the output is at high frequencies in the blue/green color
spectrum.
Argon is a puzzle to me. The NiH system should work with argon as a gas
First, the fact that the same output could be obtained with a 5J input is
completely undocumented - it is just thrown out there and without presented
demonstration or experimental data - the comment is worthless.
Their calorimetry appears to be flawed. They have apparently modified the
LENR will always occur in a nanoparticle environment when pumped by an
electric discharge. This is witnessed by many experiments involving
exploding foils comprised of various types of metals.
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
wrote:
First, the fact that
Jojo,
A lot depends upon how accurately the input energy can be determined. It would
surprise me to find that the welder has precise control upon the current and
voltage waveforms at that level and time frame. These types of devices are not
instrument quality and control of the leakage
A huge amount of RF radiation should be produced by the NMR active isotopes
of chlorine. Chlorine has only non zero nuclear magnetic monuments in its
two isotopes.
Mills could capture a large amount of electric power by converting RF to
electricity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectenna
Like
From: Bob Higgins
Their calorimetry appears to be flawed. They have apparently modified the
calorimeter to bring in huge current carrying conductors, and everyone knows
that what carries current well also transports heat well…
Good point Bob, and good post. There is almost no real
After the arc discharge, the TiC2 will be completely vaporized. But in
microseconds, titanium nanoparticles will condense out of the plasma when
the plasma temperature falls below the boiling point of titanium.
There will be a timeframe when titanium will be a solid and chlorine will
be a gas at
I hope you're right. It is in my interest to see the Suncell fail.
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: David Roberson
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 12:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?
Jojo,
A lot depends upon how
Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
I blamed Mills for revealing too much in his demos, now you are asking him
to reveal more secrets. I don't think that's wise.
Well, if he cannot reveal the chemical contents of the explosion, there is
no point to doing it. It cannot be convincing
Another thing that would have helped would be to trigger a chemical
explosion with a known amount of explosive, to calibrate.
- Jed
I wonder is this the same phenonomena as that described by Halas's group at
Rice Univ a couple years back?. They simply focused sunlight onto carbon
black in water and saw water boiling directly off at apparently low temp.
I briefly reproduced her experiment by a fresnel lens focused on a little
Optical instruments to quantitatively measure the radiant energy are standard
lab equipment and can be calibrated to NIST standards. Speculation about
titanium is a distraction, for it is not involved in the chemistry of the
SunCell.
Mike Carrell
From: Jed Rothwell
Speculation about titanium is a distraction, for it is not involved in the
chemistry of the SunCell.
How So? Can you expand on this point?
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Mike Carrell mi...@medleas.com wrote:
Optical instruments to quantitatively measure the radiant energy are
standard lab
Ken,
Sounds like an improvement upon the former since the spongelike geometry
syphons water toward the surface but since the graphite is “floating” I assume
it turns to steam before the liquid water has a chance to conduct too much
heat down below the surface and stop the steam production. It
1. I agree, 5J input should be completely charaterized and documented. Mills
talked about IGBT power supplies in the upcoming prototype. These advanced
power supplies should help answer this question.
2. I don't agree with your analysis of the Bomb Calorimetry. Larger
conductors if any
Mike Carrell mi...@medleas.com wrote:
Optical instruments to quantitatively measure the radiant energy are
standard lab equipment and can be calibrated to NIST standards.
This is a bomb calorimeter. I do not think it incorporates optical
instruments. (A schematic of the calorimeter would have
Jed resumes his traditional role as a skeptic, as he has been these many years.
The composition of the fuel powder is stated openly in papers on the website.
One just has to read carefully and in the context of all Mills’ has written
about GUTCP, which unfortunately is not CMNS or LENR [try
Mike Carrell mi...@medleas.com wrote:
Jed resumes his traditional role as a skeptic, as he has been these many
years.
No, I was only critiquing this as a demonstration. I think it failed in
that role. It failed for the general public. For insiders it might have
been optimum. I cannot judge.
For the simple reason that even if you assumed that the titanium powder was
oxidized chemically, it would still not account for the energy. It was clear
that titanium was not being oxidized; else you are left with the conundrum on
why it is not being consumed or why it would oxidize so readily
*Mills remarked that there is no oxygen available.*
In the 20,000C plasma blast, the water will decompose into h2 and O. SO
there is oxygen.
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Mike Carrell mi...@medleas.com wrote:
Optical instruments to quantitatively
yea, there's oxygen from H20, but isn't the real question be how much?
Maybe you can do the math and compute the amount of oxygen and then estimate
the amount of titanium and then add 2 and 2 together and figure out if there is
enough chemical energy to explain the huge explosion.
For that
To find where the Sun Cell power is coming from, experimental procedure as
follows:
Test the power of the electric arch only,
Then, add the TiCl2 and measure the power output.
Then add water is small steps and measure the associated power output
increase.
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 4:11 PM,
http://youtu.be/P5VdbabPbvU
I love these videos...
On Monday, July 28, 2014, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
yea, there's oxygen from H20, but isn't the real question be how much?
Maybe you can do the math and compute the amount of oxygen and then
estimate the amount of titanium
I believe the validators have already done that and have concluded that the
energy output can not be explain chemically or any other way other than the
hydrino. They have come out very strongly for Mills.
Though I do not have a horse in this race, I still find GUTCP and the hydrino
concept
From Jed:
...
I judge the demo useless, as far as I could tell. I could barely hear
what the people in the video said. Maybe if I could have heard it I
would have found it more convincing. Slides would have helped, too.
Mills heard similar complaints from other observers, and they
I did not notice this.
Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
But didn't Edison have an incredibly lousy history before he perfected his
lightbulb?
Didn'tt Einstein fail high school algebra before he created the
beautifully elegant language of Relativity mathematics?
No, he did not
Whatever you say my friend. I'm not inclined to start an argument with you.
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: Jed Rothwell
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?
I did not notice this.
Jojo
Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
Whatever you say my friend.
No, it is not whatever I say. It is what every history book and
authoritative source says. This is not about me.
I'm not inclined to start an argument with you.
You are not inclined to do your homework, or to look up
BTW, let me just say this and this will be the last I will say on this subject.
Many people are late bloomers. I know someone who was failing his classes in
one semester then went on to become the first honor student the next. And no,
he did not cheat. His teachers were so amazed. His mom
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Mike Carrell mi...@medleas.com wrote:
Arc welders commonly flood t ears wit argon, a cheap inert gas, to avoid
oxidation of the metal before it cools. Ionized argon has served as a
catalyst in earlier gas phase experiments, but it plays no part in the
SunCell.
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Mike Carrell mi...@medleas.com wrote:
That light was observed at BLP and confirmed at the Harvard-Smithsonian
Center for Astrophysics.
I've always been a little uncomfortable with the way the testing done on
behalf of BLP at Harvard-Smithsonian CfA is
I wrote:
spectroscopy at Harvard CfA showed evidence (and several possible
artifacts) of continuum radiation in the 10-30 nm range from low-energy ...
There is a further lack of clarity as to the employer of the spectropists.
Were they GEN3 subcontractors with no affiliation to Harvard CfA
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