does anyone have analyses the color code they show on Wikipedia?
2014-11-05 7:55 GMT+01:00 Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com:
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
wrote:
From the other pictures, it is pretty clear that Rossi is using a sheathed
k-type
From: Kevin O'Malley
This paper sounds familiar, as if I had heard the same things a couple of years
ago. But I've searched through Vort archives and nothing rings the bell.
Kevin,
Not sure what direction you are going with this – but in 2010 – we were talking
about fractional electron
The common ANSI color code for K-type is yellow. The wire jacket is yellow
(must be the same as the thermocouple wire because the lead wire is
thermocouple wire) and the connector on the sheathed thermocouple is
yellow. There is not really an
ANSI color code for B-type, but I think most common
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 12:54 AM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
This paper sounds familiar, as if I had heard the same things a couple of
years ago.
Nature, three years ago:
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v485/n7396/full/nature10974.html
Interesting posts on e-cat world lately. It's a good point. If coal is
so cheap, than a cop of 3:1 for electricity - thermal isn't going to cut
it.
They're are going to need to be able to power the cat by coal itself or gas
and get a 3:1 thermal - thermal ratio.
It is interesting to note that Rossi's lower temperature eCat arrays appear
to go into service for heating.
If you look at his hotCats, they are being configured as industrial furnace
heating elements. Operating at 1000C, these furnace heating elements
being replaced are mostly electrical with a
An interesting possibility about FQHE – in the context of LENR, is that there
could be a transient version inside a Casimir cavity.
The phenomenon of the fractional quantum Hall effect (FQHE) occurs when
electrons are contained in two dimensions, cooled to near absolute zero
temperature, and
Waaaitaminute.
That doesn't make sense. If he's looking into gas to power the system,
than why not use another eCat? Surely his eCats can provide the same
level of heat that gas can.
In which case, he would have a system with unlimited COP.
Something doesn't add up here.
On Wed, Nov 5,
Over the years here on vortex, we have considered the mass-equivalence of
charge as being intrinsic to understanding thermal anomalies under the broad
category of LENR (despite the fact that there is nothing nuclear going on).
This would be an important parameter if it was discovered that FQHE
We also don't know the pretest history of the ecat unit that was presented
to the Lugano testers.
We have no idea if a certain amount of energy must be fed to the ecat
before it is ready for testing.
Harry
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com
wrote:
For sure, but it isn't interesting to take electrical and do a 3:1 COP on
it. what's interesting is to take coal or gas and do a 3:1 COP on it.
But I think if Rossi can do that, than I think he should be pretty close to
just using an eCat for it.
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 7:37 AM, Bob Higgins
Of course the COP=3 argument may not apply when a well designed ECAT is put
into service. My simulations suggest that the geometry of the device can be
adjusted to achieve a higher COP if required. We need to realize that the
testing done by the scientists was not conducted in a manner that
The problem is that you seem convinced that a COP of 3 is going to be the best
that Rossi can deliver. I do not believe that is an accurate assumption.
Dave
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From: Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
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David, Rossi is agreeing on JONP that they need to use gas as well. My
question is though if they can use gas, why not use a self-feedback system.
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 9:41 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Of course the COP=3 argument may not apply when a well designed ECAT is
From: Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 9:49:08 AM
David, Rossi is agreeing on JONP that they need to use gas as well. My
question is though if they can use gas, why not use a self-feedback system.
Might be that the adjustment of temperature needs
A COP of 3 is not accurate according to the specifications supplied by Rossi.
It is important not to assume that the lower limitation is firmly established
since thermal feedback can generally be used to increase that number
significantly. The main problem is to keep the device from going
Even at a COP of 6 gas heating would be better than electric when overall
system cost is considered. This is because gas is so cheap these days.
Can you show where Rossi has declared that his delivered COP is guaranteed to
be less than 6? I have never seen any reference to a number less than
Did you see the piccy of Rossi testing those three single phase
reactors? Think about that.
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Blaze Spinnaker
blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote:
For sure, but it isn't interesting to take electrical and do a 3:1 COP on
it. what's interesting is to take coal or gas
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Did you see the piccy of Rossi testing those three single phase
reactors? Think about that.
Three can self-sustain. I said earlier that we would see no more
tests by Rossi. I retract that statement. We'll see one more,
Yesterday (probably already posted)
Bob
November 4th, 2014 at 1:20 PM
Dear Andrea Rossi
1. Do you know what is the maximum temperature an operating e-cat can produce?
2. Have you achieved that temperature in an e-cat operation?
3. Are there any other e-cat applications you are presently
I am wondering about one situation that has not been mentioned as far as I
recall. If you place several of the ECAT type devices within a high
temperature furnace then the surrounding temperature within the oven will be
applied to the ECAT directly. Now that should be enough temperature to
I think the point you are missing is that these heat treatment plants
(smelting, glass, etc) are already using electric furnace elements with a
COP=1. They are not using coal fired elements. The electricity to drive
these furnace elements is largely coming from coal. So if Rossi develops a
Ah, ok, thanks. Yes I was missing that
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
wrote:
I think the point you are missing is that these heat treatment plants
(smelting, glass, etc) are already using electric furnace elements with a
COP=1. They are not using coal
Re: FQHE
There is a connection between LENR and the Fractional Quantum Hall Effect.
That connection is the production of quasi-stable particles from the vacuum
as stimulated by the action of a magnetic field.
Under the influence of a electron, a impinging magnetic field produces two
counter
I have always believed from the very begining that the Ni/H reactor should
have been based on a liquid metal heat pipe concept. The heat pipe concept
is required to keep the reaction zone inside the E-Cat free of combustion
gases that might come from using natural gas as a external heat source.
Interesting that Aether/orgone is also said to have a strong connection to
IR and UV.
And orgone seems connected to electrons and charge and one term given to
this is soft electrons or similar concepts of a form of electron charge.
This could be where the interface between my woo-woo and the
http://physics.aps.org/synopsis-for/10.1103/PhysRevLett.113.193002
Quantum Fluctuations Affect a Row of Distant Ions
The quantum vacuum teems with particles flitting in and out of existence,
with small but measurable effects on matter. A team of Israeli researchers
now show that virtual photons
Neri B.
November 5th, 2014 at 1:27 PM
Dear Andrea,
in TPR 1 we saw 3 tests: in the first the reactor melted, in the others two
tests the COP was 5.6 and 2.9.
Recently you stated that someone has experienced the cat could become a tiger.
Can you please tell us which is the highest COP you ever
It is difficult to try and keep up with you, axil axil.
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
http://physics.aps.org/synopsis-for/10.1103/PhysRevLett.113.193002
Quantum Fluctuations Affect a Row of Distant Ions
The quantum vacuum teems with particles flitting in
Atoms are bosoms and when bosoms all communicate
I was trying to get a good visual on that...
bos·om
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plural noun: *bosoms*
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Also, if you seek a transient effect, does heat exist in a moment?
Heat is a chaotic form of random microscopic changes in kinetic energy, if
so there should be windows where there is no change in momentum which could
be argued to be as localized moments of zero heat?
Additionally maybe the
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