In the category of clear water-based liquids which burn cleanly enough to be
used indoors, and which could be confused with water in a testing
arrangement (since it would be so unexpected as the 'trick' used to pull-off
the deception) - there are several choices.
These are miscible and with
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
In the category of clear water-based liquids which burn cleanly enough to
be used indoors, and which could be confused with water in a testing
arrangement (since it would be so unexpected as the ‘trick’ used to pull-off
the deception) - there are several
Considerably less than the $100 million Euros that a Greek investor might be
willing to advance ..
From: Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote:
In the category of clear water-based liquids which burn cleanly enough to be
used indoors, and which could be confused with water in a testing
://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN_hgt4InyI
From: Jones Beene
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Clear, odorless, water-based combustible
Considerably less than the $100 million Euros that a Greek investor might be
willing to advance ..
From: Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote:
In the category of clear
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Considerably less than the $100 million Euros that a Greek investor might
be willing to advance ….
Ha, ha. And how would this work now that they are testing it in Rossi's
absence? I imagine they will notice. Surely the hidden tank will run out, or
they
First, dont get me wrong. I thought the Bologna demo was robust and
legitimate at the time, and still think it could have been strongly OU but
less so than appearances might indicate.
However, there is no real proof of any huge gain until better controls are
implemented. I agree fully with
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Considerably less than the $100 million Euros that a Greek
investor might
be willing to advance ….
Ha, ha. And how would this work now that they are testing it in
Rossi's absence? I imagine they will notice. Surely the hidden
tank will run out,
the
apparent COP up to maybe 30.
-Mark
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From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 9:42 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Clear, odorless, water-based combustible
First, dont get me wrong. I thought the Bologna demo was robust
Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
Items 5 and 7 are not fitting with the details that Rossi has stated, which
is that he ONLY receives money when the plant is producing energy... so
there is no up-front cash. Don't think that the scenario is consistent
with first-hand information...
Mark,
It goes without saying that this was a hasty fiction put together to show
how this demo (or any similar demo by anyone) could be partially faked (i.e.
enhanced) in a way that could fit into a coherent story. and certainly was
not intended to be anything more than that. I should have
Dear Friends,
How many hydrogen peroxide explosion have you seen?
I remember 3, great risk to mimic fire with this stuff. iron is a good
catalyst for peroxide decomposition. May I ask you to read the MSDS
of this substance? Thanks!
Peter
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Jones Beene
Peter,
An authority to contact for anyone interested in the safety issues would be
the Swiss Rocket Man - since he puts his life on the line with this stuff
daily. It is very dangerous at full strength but less so when diluted.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yves_Rossy
Notice his name is
From: Jed Rothwell
*
* In real life, this scenario cannot be squared with the fact that tests at
U. Bologna are continuing, and units will probably be delivered to
universities in Sweden.
That is why we have NDAs, and you can bet your bottom dollar that everyone
involved have
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Ha, ha. And how would this work now that they are testing it in Rossi's
absence? I imagine they will notice.
JB: There will be no more public disclosures IMO.
Obviously if they find it is a fraud they will disclose that. They are not
going to let
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Ø In real life, this scenario cannot be squared with the fact that tests
at U. Bologna are continuing, and units will probably be delivered to
universities in Sweden.
That is why we have NDAs, and you can bet your bottom dollar that everyone
I wrote:
Not at all. When the Swedish Professors find and document a robust COP of 4
instead of 30 they will be thrilled beyond words ! The prior test will be
written off as measurement error.
That's preposterous. A measurement error on that scale is out of the
question.
I suppose it is
From: Jed Rothwell
JR: In real life, this scenario cannot be squared with the fact that tests
at U. Bologna are continuing, and units will probably be delivered to
universities in Sweden.
JB: That is why we have NDAs, and you can bet your bottom dollar that
everyone involved have signed
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
JB: When the Swedish Professors find and document a robust COP of 4 instead
of 30 they will be thrilled beyond words ! The prior test will be written
off as measurement error.
JR: That's preposterous. A measurement error on that scale is out of the
From: Jed Rothwell
* Okay, so in the Feb. 10 test, input was 80 W and output was not 16 kW or
130 kW but 320 W (4 times input)
It is a mistake to conflate the two tests. Both have their own separate
problems. This is not new to Jed, and there is no reason to repeat the
details of the
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Of course, these calculations will of necessity be based on the presumed
surface area of a stainless steel inner reactor, as Rossi assures us is
there - and the flow rate of the liquid.
And how do you know what the shape is, or surface area? Where was
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From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 12:00 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Clear, odorless, water-based combustible
Mark,
It goes without saying that this was a hasty fiction put together to show how
this demo (or any
similar demo
RE: Yves Rossy, the Jet Man.
Of all the people that would have the exact same date of birth, it had to be
someone like him.
-Mark
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From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 12:39 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Clear, odorless, water
same date of birth, it had to
be someone like him.
-Mark
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*From:* Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
*Sent:* Sunday, April 17, 2011 12:39 PM
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Subject:* RE: [Vo]:Clear, odorless, water-based combustible
Peter
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