The background's probably better now for general viewing - I liked it in
the brighter version, but I guess you have to think of your client's
customer's eyes...
I didn't have any prob with the text on their logo as it was - the white
background under the black text is now a tad speckly (how
Hi Dwayne,
Came up with a solution to prevent our pop-up JavaScripts from colliding
with the Macromedia Flash object on our home page. Looks okay in IE6...
just want to see how well it fares on other browsers. Thanks!
Just checked in IE6, Opera and Phoenix, but I can't work out what should
Somehow I've been nominated to make suggestions on how to improve the
Greater Southwest Houston Chamber of Commerce website. Not that I'm being
paid to do this since they already have a contract with the people who
produce their directory but since I'm a member of the Chamber I've gotten
stuck
A fine example of the question of why standards. On the one hand the page
renders in Opera, Mozilla and IE. But the code is a mess: no opening html
but 2 /html tags, spans which close but never open. Deprecated font and
b all over the place. Table elements with a wide array of varying
attributes.
Okay, time for another one of my world famous dopey questions: What does it mean
for a tag to be deprected? I've heard this term many times before and have
been hoping to figure it out through contextual cues. I've met with a stunning
lack of success using this approach so it's time to ask
means a tag used to be in the official standards but is in the process of
being removed.
Still official, so user agents should continue to render it, but its use in
new development is frowned upon, as it will be OBSOLETE in the future.
once a tag goes obsolete, I believe, agents need no longer
It just means that browser support for that tag is supposed to be
discontinued at some unspecified future time. Most people think that the
time referred to is a week or so after the end of the universe.
drew
-Original Message-
From: sherry young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:
Do you think there's a list on the w3c site of deprecated tags? Seems as if
there should be... Do you suppose I would find it under the term deprecated
tags?
If the b tag is going to go the way of the dodo bird, how do I make a one-line
break? stops to kick self smartly I *know* someone (one of
Hi Sherry,
If the b tag is going to go the way of the dodo bird
...only in the latest versions of HTML. If you stick with an HTML 3.2 or
4.01 doctype, you can use b all you like (and CSS as well, if you like).
Golden rule for choosing a doctype: Use the earliest version that meets your
Oh lord, Jon, I'm so flattered you think I'm adept enough to even select a
version. Well, maybe I did in a sort of a way. At least I tried to make things
legal or commonly accepted. I used DW 3.0 which (one would hope) has selected
a version for the user although one would also hope they would
Du-uh. The cold must be affecting my brain. I did, of course, mean the br tag.
Not deprecated? Phew. mops brow
Thank you.
S.
J.R. Pitts wrote:
Well, first, the b tag is for bold. And it is not necessarily deprecated.
The br is the line break, and it is NOT deprecated.
Not sure if there is
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On January 22, 2003 at 10:47, sherry young wrote:
Do you think there's a list on the w3c site of deprecated tags? Seems
as if there should be... Do you suppose I would find it under the term
On January 22, 2003 at 10:47, sherry young wrote:
Do you think there's a list on the w3c site of deprecated tags? Seems
as if there should be... Do you suppose I would find it under the term
deprecated tags?
Ooops, the OBJECT element is not deprecated, rather that is the preffered
You mean the br tag, right? There's always going to be a single line break
as far as I know, but for XHTML (which is the new standard) you type it as
br /. One of the big things about XHTML is closing your tags, no lazy
coding. p better be closed with /p etc, but with tags like br hr and
such,
Mark,
Thank you, Mark. Very helpful.
Phew. The only one (I think) I've used is the font tag and I know I can replace that
by using CSS and H1, H2, etc. tags. I'm working on drumming up my nerve to redoing
the site with CSS.
In that vein, I do have a question: Can I do that conversion a page at
Jon Haworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] said:
Just checked in IE6, Opera and Phoenix,
but I can't work out what should be popping up :-)
Hmm... mousing-over the text items should pop-up a box with a text
description... and should simultaneously hide the Flash object.
--
Dwacon
www.dwacon.com
The Duck Lady wrote:
:: If the b tag is going to go the way of the dodo bird, how
:: do I make a one-line
:: break? stops to kick self smartly I *know* someone (one
:: of the Cheryls???)
:: just told me this recently but I seem to have misfiled it.
:: I was *sure* I'd
::
There was an article in ASPToday.com this week about how to code a
text-editor tool that may do what you are trying. Take a peek at that site
and check it out.
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Ali,
I'm actually quite good about closing my tags, if I do say so myself. It fits
right into my obsessive nature. Also, it's something that requires absolutely no
talent or brains just, well, obsessiveness. In short, it's something even I can
do so I cling to it as a drowning man to a life
Perry,
Well you've just answered another of my dopey questions. Alas, I'd already sent
it out before I read your response. Yeah, br IS a standalone tag. I know that
when I use it but hadn't pieced it together when I thought of it in a more
academic fashion. So, bold is replaced by strong in
On January 22, 2003 at 11:17, sherry young wrote:
In that vein, I do have a question: Can I do that conversion a page at
a time? In other words, could I write a style sheet (using the
three--I think--css commands legal for NN4.7X) for one page without
having to risk screwing up the entire
Hi Dwayne,
Just checked in IE6, Opera and Phoenix,
but I can't work out what should be popping up :-)
Hmm... mousing-over the text items should pop-up a box
with a text description... and should simultaneously hide
the Flash object.
Oops! My mistake, sorry. (note to self: disable
Perry respondethed to my previous post thusly:
Try this out. You just might like it.
html
head
titleMargin Killer/title
style type=text/css
body {
margin:0; /* IE Mozilla */
padding:0; /* Opera */
position:absolute; top:0; left:0; /* Netscape 4.7 */
overflow:hidden; /* Removes vertical
Hi J.R.,
The br is the line break, and it is NOT deprecated.
It's gone for good in XHTML 2 - instead of doing
'Twas brillig, and the slithy tovesbr
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:br
All mimsy were the borogroves,br
And the mome raths outgrabe.br
You'll be doing
lBeware the
Ali,
I'm actually quite good about closing my tags, if I do say so myself. It
fits
right into my obsessive nature. Also, it's something that requires
absolutely no
talent or brains just, well, obsessiveness. In short, it's something even
I can
do so I cling to it as a drowning man to a life
The point is tags like fontdircenter band even b represent markup to
the text and should be done in the css. As should markup like p,
font-family, font-size, color, background-image, ul, li, text-decoration,
and text-variant, to name a few.
The body should contain only structural elements and
- Original Message -
From: sherry young [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In that vein, I do have a question: Can I do that conversion a page at a
time? In other words, could I write a style sheet (using the three--I
think--css commands legal
for NN4.7X) for one page without having to risk screwing up
Bless you.
S.
Mark Groen wrote:
On January 22, 2003 at 11:17, sherry young wrote:
In that vein, I do have a question: Can I do that conversion a page at
a time? In other words, could I write a style sheet (using the
three--I think--css commands legal for NN4.7X) for one page without
I've heard strong recommend for accessibility issues. Text readers (or at
least some text readers) know to put some sort of emphasis around strong
and em tags that they don't for b and i
I'm sure there are better reasons out there as well..
Heather Laidlaw
Internet Manager
Seattle Repertory
- Original Message -
From: Jon Haworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The br is the line break, and it is NOT deprecated.
It's gone for good in XHTML 2 - instead of doing
[...]
lBeware the Jabberwock, my son!/l
[...]
The idea is that *lines* are structural, whereas line *breaks* are
XHTML 2? Guess I'm behind again.
Geez, Yeah, I understand the subtle distinction, but sounds like some people
in the association are getting anal! ;)
J.R.
-Original Message-
From: Jon Haworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 11:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks for the referral to the classes. My understanding is there are only three
tags I can use with NN 4.7X and that's a good place to start. I'm filing your
e-mail in the new css folder I just created in my e-mail.
Sherry
Trusz, Andrew wrote:
The point is tags like fontdircenter band even b
Hi Alida,
And it certainly does look like they plan to replace br,
but how do they expect it to be backwards compatable in
older browsers then, I wonder?
They don't. It's not supposed to be. If you want your pages to work
backwards, write them to a doctype designed for that.
There's a
Jon Haworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] indicated:
Just checked in IE6, Opera and Phoenix,
but I can't work out what should be popping up :-)
Hmm... mousing-over the text items should pop-up a box
with a text description... and should simultaneously hide
the Flash object.
Oops!
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