[wdvltalk] Re: List down?

2003-03-26 Thread Jan Major
Hi Dave, I've been so very busy, I haven't even been reading the digest until now. You're right, the list is non active! I like Rudy's response: What's happenning? we've solved all the problems I haven't. ;o) Jan --- Subject: Re: List down? From: David Precious [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed,

[wdvltalk] Re: List down?

2003-03-26 Thread Van Der Westhuizen, Sonja
lol... there is always more questions than anwers ;) maybe more about life, the universe and everything... i don't think we get as many newbies as we used to in the good old days of the internet boom... life also became more serious, just work work work... *sigh* and most companies don't want to

[wdvltalk] Re: List down?

2003-03-26 Thread Paul Larue
The fact is that we are nowadays required to have more fields of knowledge than for any *normal* job. To be good in this domain you need knowledge of design, server admin, coding, app programming, databases, multi media and so on... And to make things more complicated, you should also ALWAYS

[wdvltalk] Re: Qiuet list

2003-03-26 Thread Dianne Reuby
Dave P wrote: If my net access is still like this tomorrow, maybe I'll get hold of NTL. == Good luck Dave! If we never hear from you again, we'll know you're out there where technology is tamed and the muzak isn't! Never mind, we're getting your e-mails, we want to talk to you. Dianne Reuby

[wdvltalk] Re: List down?

2003-03-26 Thread edc
Naah it is just that we are all suffering from so much information overload that we don't know enough to know that we should ask qestions, or if we do we don't know the right ones to ask Michael Ensor www.WellingtonLive.co.nz - Original Message - From: Paul Larue [EMAIL

[wdvltalk] Re: List down?

2003-03-26 Thread David Precious
Hi Paul, On Wednesday 26 March 2003 9:25 pm, Paul Larue wrote: The fact is that we are nowadays required to have more fields of knowledge than for any *normal* job. To be good in this domain you need knowledge of design, server admin, coding, app programming, databases, multi media and so

[wdvltalk] Re: List down?

2003-03-26 Thread Trusz, Andrew
This is not the edge. We're very midling. -Original Message- From: Van Der Westhuizen, Sonja [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 4:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: List down? lol... there is always more questions than anwers ;) maybe more about

[wdvltalk] Re: List down?

2003-03-26 Thread Paul Larue
Hi David, You know how they call that need it yesterday stuff here? They call it the *philosophy of now-ism*... I run away when I hear that!! True that when you got s much to look after and to do, you don't really have time to wait for a lits member to answer. But I'm sure if some people start

[wdvltalk] Re: Qiuet list

2003-03-26 Thread David Precious
On Wednesday 26 March 2003 10:04 am, Dianne Reuby wrote: Dave P wrote: If my net access is still like this tomorrow, maybe I'll get hold of NTL. Diane R wrote: Good luck Dave! If we never hear from you again, we'll know you're out there where technology is tamed and the muzak isn't! Hehe

[wdvltalk] Re: Qiuet list

2003-03-26 Thread Ben Joyce
Completely off-topic... but where do you play CS David? When i get the chance (not often) I usually play on the Demon public servers... despite all the kids (cheats) the speeds are v.good... sub-30 - 40 pings. .b -Original Message- From: David Precious [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[wdvltalk] Re: List down?

2003-03-26 Thread David Precious
Hi Paul, You know how they call that need it yesterday stuff here? They call it the *philosophy of now-ism*... I run away when I hear that!! By any name, it's a scary concept. Management decide they need something now, without thinking about how long it'll take to develop, and without

[wdvltalk] Re: List down?

2003-03-26 Thread Diane Schips
Sounds good to me. Anyone know of a good hydroponics system? Just kidding (mostly) Diane -Original Message- From: Paul Larue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 1:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: List down? Yeah, it seems we've all been

[wdvltalk] Re: List down?

2003-03-26 Thread Jon Haworth
Hi Paul, The fact is that we are nowadays required to have more fields of knowledge than for any *normal* job. Joel's done a good article about this: http://joelonsoftware.com/articles/LordPalmerston.html quote Lord Palmerston: The Schleswig-Holstein question is so complicated, only three

[wdvltalk] Re: Qiuet list

2003-03-26 Thread David Precious
On Wednesday 26 March 2003 1:16 pm, Ben Joyce wrote: Completely off-topic... but where do you play CS David? When i get the chance (not often) I usually play on the Demon public servers... despite all the kids (cheats) the speeds are v.good... sub-30 - 40 pings. I don't get to play it much

[wdvltalk] Size matters?

2003-03-26 Thread SanJoseWebGuy
Good morning, Glad to see many are awake, alive well... to generate some discussion, I post the questions: What screen size do you design for? Do you ever use a 'size-sniffer' Do you: dynamically adjust the page due to sniffer results; make a duplicate site for

[wdvltalk] Re: Size matters?

2003-03-26 Thread rudy
What screen size do you design for? all of them Do you ever use a 'size-sniffer' nope Do you: create expandable tables floating divs to account for resolution differences? yep tables are expandable by default unless you specifically fix them on purpose and who uses

[wdvltalk] RE: [wdvltalk]site check

2003-03-26 Thread Diane Schips
I had posted a question about the problems I was having with a dynamic menu a few days ago. No one was able to help me, but a couple of people posted that they couldn't see even the little bit I thought I had working. I decided on a very different, much simpler approach, using

[wdvltalk] RE: Size matters?

2003-03-26 Thread Jon Haworth
Hi Jim, What screen size do you design for? Liquid design, usually - I try to cover everything from my 240x320 XDA to my 1600x1200 desktop, and things in between and outside. It's pretty straightforward - you just have to use sensibly ordered markup and a stylesheet for positioning in

[wdvltalk] Re: Size matters?

2003-03-26 Thread Ben Joyce
I've not made the jump to floating/positioned DIV's yet... most ofmy work is neeed yesterday so I'm still using tables for layout/data. I really need to find some time to start using the DIV/CSS solution. .b -Original Message- From: rudy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 March

[wdvltalk] Re: Size matters?

2003-03-26 Thread Diane Schips
Rudy writes: and who uses tables any more? well, except for data? Diane replies: I do. But I'm willing to change. I do know better, but I always balked at the learning curve. Maybe I just bought the wrong books, but I've never been able to get the hang of style sheets - I keep running into

[wdvltalk] RE: [wdvltalk]site check

2003-03-26 Thread Trusz, Andrew
Opera 6 reports JavaScript errors for about and faq as follows: Error: name: ReferenceError message: Reference to undefined variable: No such variable 'tblAbout' Error: name: ReferenceError message: Reference to undefined variable: No such variable 'tblFaq' So no menus at all. drew

[wdvltalk] Re: Size matters?

2003-03-26 Thread Ben Joyce
This list is still a good place to admit to your ignorance without feeling stupid. Thanks, Diane I heartily agree and wave my Stupid flag :) .b • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To:

[wdvltalk] Re: Size matters?

2003-03-26 Thread rudy
Rudy, if you and/or Jon could point me in the right direction, give me some pointers, tell me what to look for, etc. I would appreciate it. Floating divs? join the css-discuss discussion list and lurk http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ that site has links to all the authoritative and

[wdvltalk] RE: [wdvltalk]site check

2003-03-26 Thread Van Der Westhuizen, Sonja
Hi Diane, The menu expands when I mouse over it and Im not getting any error messages. I was using IE6 sp 1. Then I view it in mozilla version 1 and the menu is expanded by default. hope this helps Sonja -Original Message- From: Diane Schips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 March

[wdvltalk] Re: Size matters?

2003-03-26 Thread Trusz, Andrew
During the week of April 7th, West Civ is starting to run it's CSS Level 2 course. This is an excellent resource (even worth purchasing). It provides a thorough enough background to make the standards understandable for plodders like me. http://www.westciv.com/courses/free/index.html When you

[wdvltalk] Re: Size matters? site check

2003-03-26 Thread cyberkate
I have made the mistake of using a size sniffer page that sparked the sticky pages topic a few weeks ago, it takes ages to do it's job, although it might be that there is a problem with the code somewhere, I am yet to see it, though I have tried. It sucks up so much time updating the 6 base

[wdvltalk] RE: [wdvltalk]site check

2003-03-26 Thread Diane Schips
Thank you Drew. I'm looking at the Opera site, but I'm not getting much information. All the documentation I can find is for Opera 7. I'll post some questions to their forum. I'll have to do some browser sniffing anyway. If I don't get any useful answers as to how to do this with Opera, I'll

[wdvltalk] Forcing file downloads from ASP

2003-03-26 Thread Furry, Tim
Subject: Re: List down? rudy: we've solved all the problems ;o) Tim: LOL. Leave it to rudy to point out the obvious that we've all overlooked. :-) You made my day. Okay, I'll ask a question, then. I've been struggling with this for about a day or so with not much success. I've got an ASP

[wdvltalk] RE: Unwanted E-Mails (Spam) Filter????

2003-03-26 Thread John Nichel
And if that goes unanswered, go up the chain. Check the email headers to notify the people whos servers the email is being sent from / routed through. Debra Meadows wrote: Hi Maverick, You can forward the email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], this goes to the system admin. Depending on the company's

[wdvltalk] RE: CSS Lessons

2003-03-26 Thread Cheryl D. Wise
Yes, there are a few people who get that involved in creating very intricate css pages but that is usually for cutting edge stuff. I've never seen anything deployed on a commercial site that uses that sort of CSS-2 or CSS-3 (spec still in development and subject to change). As for examples you

[wdvltalk] RE: CSS Lessons

2003-03-26 Thread Trusz, Andrew
Jim, one mega site you could look at is ESPN.com. It's converting to full css. Stylesheet complexity is generally less severe than all the shims and hacks for table based layout. And since content and presentation are separate, the content can far more easily be adapted to other media (cell

[wdvltalk] Back to the basics - Frames

2003-03-26 Thread Gerenday, Perry (P.)
OK, there was mourning going on earlier today over the lack of beginners. So here's a beginner question. How in the world do I get rid of the margins between frames? frame src=menu.html frameborder=0 eliminates the 3D frame effect but leaves the space. I'm sure I've had frames that touch each

[wdvltalk] RE: Back to the basics - Frames

2003-03-26 Thread Gerenday, Perry (P.)
Never mind. My brain finally kicked in. frameset cols=180,* border=0 Duh! How easy was that? :: Perry • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[wdvltalk] Re: Unwanted E-Mails (Spam) Filter????

2003-03-26 Thread David Precious
On Wednesday 26 March 2003 3:51 pm, Dharan wrote: Hello Friends, I am getting unwanted emails which talks about Viagra online Enlarge size and all possible cheap mails. Can any one suggest the best way to tackle them and tell me how to handle these? I would definately recommend

[wdvltalk] [OT] Front End for Museum Site

2003-03-26 Thread Franni Vincent
If there's anyone on the list who's had experience in designing educational front ends for museum sites, is interested in doing another one, I've the spec for the tender for Manchester's Museum of Science Industry I can fwd. The ceiling's £6000, the deadline's for the tender's the 31st - they

[wdvltalk] RE: Back to the basics - Frames

2003-03-26 Thread Franni Vincent
Never mind. My brain finally kicked in. frameset cols=180,* border=0 Duh! How easy was that? :: Perry Homer's Law - It never fails, does it? The moment you hit send, the little grey cells wake up... :-) Franni • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk,

[wdvltalk] dedicated IP address vs shared IP address

2003-03-26 Thread K. F. Wu
Hi, Kind of IT related question: what's difference between a dedicated IP and a shared IP in terms of website performance? The reason to ask: my web host is to upgrade server and change the dedicated IP to shared IP for my website. Is this a downgrade instead of upgrade? Thanks for clearing

[wdvltalk] Re: Unwanted E-Mails (Spam) Filter????

2003-03-26 Thread Cheryl D. Wise
I haven't used it but I know a lot of people who swear by Mailwasher http://www.mailwasher.net/ it bounces back spam with the same headers that an ISP would use when mail is sent to a non-existent email account. One of these days I need to try out some of these spam blockers so my son can

[wdvltalk] Totally OT: DVD Burners

2003-03-26 Thread Todd Richards
Sorry for the off-topic post, but I need some feedback if possible. We are looking to purchase an external DVD burner to start archiving files, but rather than just get something and hope it works, I was hoping for some recommendations from someone who uses one. Private replies are welcome. I

[wdvltalk] RE: Totally OT: DVD Burners

2003-03-26 Thread Brett Haselton
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[wdvltalk] Re: Unwanted E-Mails (Spam) Filter????

2003-03-26 Thread Ben Joyce
Dave, do you have any experience of installing SpamAssasin on an IMAP server (running on Linux) ? .b -Original Message- From: David Precious [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 March 2003 19:34 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: Unwanted E-Mails (Spam) Filter On

[wdvltalk] Re: dedicated IP address vs shared IP address

2003-03-26 Thread John Nichel
Not really a downgrade. There shouldn't be any effect on performance to the naked eye, as long as the hardware can handle it (not that shared IP's require better / faster hardware). It suprises me that it's taken your hosting provider this long to make the switch, as it's less of a headache

[wdvltalk] Re: Unwanted E-Mails (Spam) Filter????

2003-03-26 Thread David Precious
On Wednesday 26 March 2003 8:34 pm, Ben Joyce wrote: Dave, do you have any experience of installing SpamAssasin on an IMAP server (running on Linux) ? Yeah, I've done it, it's not too hard. The IMAP part doesn't really matter - most of the time it doesn't matter how you pick the mail up, it

[wdvltalk] Re: dedicated IP address vs shared IP address

2003-03-26 Thread K. F. Wu
Thanks, John. What a big relief for me that no need to find another web host. KoaFar At 12:36 PM 3/26/2003, you wrote: Not really a downgrade. There shouldn't be any effect on performance to the naked eye, as long as the hardware can handle it (not that shared IP's require better / faster

[wdvltalk] Re: Unwanted E-Mails (Spam) Filter????

2003-03-26 Thread edc
Second that, mailwasher will do just what you seem to want Maverick. I was using it on my other box ( till the power supply blew up the other night) and if you religiously bounce spam you will be amazed how it drops off. One other thing you can do: in your web pages any email address can be coded

[wdvltalk] Re: Totally OT: DVD Burners

2003-03-26 Thread Cyberspace Publishing
Not external, but Sony's new entry solves the format confusion as it works with all formats - DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW and CDR/ CDRW formats... and all for about $350. Just doesn't do DVD-RAM - whatever that is. HTH, Tom Fosson At 02:17 PM 03/26/2003 -0600, you wrote: Sorry for the off-topic

[wdvltalk] RE: Unwanted E-Mails (Spam) Filter????

2003-03-26 Thread Conyers, Dwayne
Try SpamCop (www.spamcop.net) which also provides free e-mail account that is scrubbed well. = Dwacon www.dwacon.com • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change

[wdvltalk] Re: List down?

2003-03-26 Thread carlsens
Hey, I'm a delurking pseudo newbie. Ages ago I made a website using my newfound knowledge of html and minimal perl. I now have a domain name and have a plan. Only to find I'm so incredibly still a newbie that I probably will need some answers to all the questions I might have to ask. There

[wdvltalk] Re: Unwanted E-Mails (Spam) Filter????

2003-03-26 Thread Dharan
Hi David, But I am not using server. I am using from my house i.e., dial up connection. Can you help me in this regard Rgds Maverick - Original Message - From: David Precious [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 1:03 AM Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: Unwanted

[wdvltalk] Re: Unwanted E-Mails (Spam) Filter????

2003-03-26 Thread Brewnetty \(AuntySpam\)
I find that Mailwasher does the best job screening out unwanted emails, with the added advantage that you can look at them before you have it bounce or delete anything. Regards, Norma - Original Message - From: Dharan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: