Hi Keith,
Keith Williams schrieb:
Look Christian, I don't use email to communicate with groups of people. I
use comments on discussion boards. I really don't know what you mean full
quotes and frankly at this point I don't care.
Sounds a little bit ignorant, which I hope is a wrong impress
Hi, :-)
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 05:26, Marc Paré wrote:
> Thanks. We are probably at the point again where we should have a show of
> hands for people who are willing to help out with website support. I'll make
> a note of it on the update progress file that I am keeping.
> Anyone else, again?
I
> Also, you speak of the German mailist are also talking of this subject.
> Is there any way that we could hear what they are saying?
? Hear - yes, but first you can read the lists at:
http://oucv.org/tdf.html
Go to the German mailing lists - Nabble is a bitch because you can not
run it throu
Le 2010-10-20 17:43, Benjamin Horst a écrit :
This makes sense. I have just proposed this with Andre as well as the fact that
there is probably a person on this discussion thread who would be willing to
update the Wiki for public viewing.
Marc
As suggested somewhere, I've created a table on
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Christian Lohmaier <
lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com >wrote:
> Hi Benjamin, *,
>
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:17 AM, Benjamin Horst wrote:
> >> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Benjamin Horst wrote:
> >>> On Oct 18, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>
Le 2010-10-20 17:43, Benjamin Horst a écrit :
This makes sense. I have just proposed this with Andre as well as the fact that
there is probably a person on this discussion thread who would be willing to
update the Wiki for public viewing.
Marc
As suggested somewhere, I've created a table on
Le 2010-10-20 19:56, Drew Jensen a écrit :
Sorry, rephrase one thought -
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 19:50 -0400, Drew Jensen meant to write:
Reading the discussions on the membership question it seems like most of
us are either 100% in agreement,or very close to agreement on the parts
that count..so
Le 2010-10-20 19:19, Andrea Pescetti a écrit :
Marc Paré wrote:
So, there are 2 things to consider:
1. Does the SC wish #1 [AP: translatable pages] or the #2 [AP: subsites] option?
2. Can either Silverstripe and Drupal support either of these scenarios.
Opinions on #2 is the one that is really
Le 2010-10-20 17:59, Drew Jensen a écrit :
Just putting that out there because I'm not sure that Keith and
Christian are on same page requirements wise. My little daydream about
an enterprise workflow engine didn't really help, because that kind of
functionality is really missing the point. Thi
Hi Andrea, *,
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:43 AM, Andrea Pescetti
wrote:
> Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>
> Well, for the Web part I still believe that a consistent user interface
> would be a big advantage.
Yes, a consistent user interface,
Hi Keith,
again: I ask you to adapt your quoting habits. Stop the fullquotes.
Use inline quoting.
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Keith Williams
wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Christian Lohmaier <
> lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com >wrote:
>>
> All the workflow and revision stuff c
Sorry, rephrase one thought -
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 19:50 -0400, Drew Jensen meant to write:
Reading the discussions on the membership question it seems like most of
us are either 100% in agreement,or very close to agreement on the parts
that count..so would we form a, temporary even, rooster for
Hi Ben, all,
Benjamin Horst schrieb:
Bernhard,
On Oct 12, 2010, at 6:22 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote:
[...]
Per Eriksson schrieb:
Hi everybody,
I was looking at the Fedora project and how nicely they have
integrated their normal website with their wiki. The navigation
between the sites works
On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 01:19 +0200, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> However, the (SC's or whoever rules here)
? another good question
It seems to me the first question of what the voting membership of the
TDF, as currently envisioned on the wiki Membership page would be voting
on.
Is this the type
Marc Paré wrote:
> So, there are 2 things to consider:
> 1. Does the SC wish #1 [AP: translatable pages] or the #2 [AP: subsites]
> option?
> 2. Can either Silverstripe and Drupal support either of these scenarios.
>
> Opinions on #2 is the one that is really important for this thread.
>
> Could
Benjamin Horst wrote:
> I am also available for Drupal support, and Jim Benstead (a friend of
> mine) volunteered to help earlier in the thread too.
If Drupal is chosen, I can help by:
- studying an overall infrastructure for a Drupal-based network of sites
with a nice, modern flow of information
Hi Andrea,
>
> By the way, an important requirement is of course the ability to use the
> CMS in your own language: from http://translate.silverstripe.org/ I see
> that German and Slovak are the only OOo languages with a > 90%
> translated interface, while in Drupal this is true of most widesprea
Christian Lohmaier wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> > If the Document Foundation must choose a tool that will be
> > flexible enough to rebuild all the current OpenOffice.org infrastructure
> > on it
>
> No. I strongly disagree. Not one tool that can do all.
Well
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Christian Lohmaier <
lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com >wrote:
> Hi Marc,
>
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Marc Paré wrote:
> > Le 2010-10-20 11:52, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :
> >> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:17 AM, Benjamin Horst wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 19
On Oct 20, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Marc Paré wrote:
>>
> Thanks. We are probably at the point again where we should have a show of
> hands for people who are willing to help out with website support. I'll make
> a note of it on the update progress file that I am keeping.
>
> Christian, I have you do
Hi Christian and Andrea,
On Oct 20, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Andrea Pescetti
> wrote:
>> Marc Paré wrote:
>>
>> A proper discussion would not fit the deadlines and tools the Document
>> Foundation has now: if a decision has to be taken now,
> One other nice feature that Drupal has is that it is easy to admin multiple
> sites. One Drupal host can be the source for X number of other sites.
> Sites can share database tables, users, etc... So... Lets say you have a
> wiki site and a foundation site. Someone logs into the wiki site, it
Marc,
On Oct 20, 2010, at 11:21 AM, Marc Paré wrote:
> Thanks, no problem, I just happen to have the time to work on this. I am just
> recovering from 2 spinal surgeries and having to re-learn walking and other
> things ... nasty stuff spinal injuries. Also, the only comfortable position
> for
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Keith Williams
wrote:
> This is an example of a structured document:
>
> http://www.mywebclass.org/~bhorst/content/example_book/structured_document
>
> Drupal uses books for structured documents. You can download them with
> index, import / expor them, print with P
Hi Marc,
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Marc Paré wrote:
> Le 2010-10-20 11:52, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :
>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:17 AM, Benjamin Horst wrote:
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Benjamin Horst wrote:
> On Oct 18, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>
Le 2010-10-20 17:01, Benjamin Horst a écrit :
I will do the dirty work of Drupal. I'd donate the resources of my business
to help. I have a couple developers and assistance. I would just like some
credit for doing the work. If you guys choose drupal and want advice,
training, or minor amounts
If you do use Drupal, this is the theme you want to start out with:
http://drupal.org/project/fusion
All you need to do is basically rename a file called "local-sample.css" to
"local.css" in the startertheme/css folder and then you can just add your
custom css. You can then configure the theme
> I will do the dirty work of Drupal. I'd donate the resources of my business
> to help. I have a couple developers and assistance. I would just like some
> credit for doing the work. If you guys choose drupal and want advice,
> training, or minor amounts of help then I'll just do that no strin
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Marc Paré wrote:
> Le 2010-10-20 16:38, Marc Paré a écrit :
>
> Le 2010-10-20 16:13, Keith Williams a écrit :
>>
>>
>>> One other nice feature that Drupal has is that it is easy to admin
>>> multiple
>>> sites. One Drupal host can be the source for X number of ot
Le 2010-10-20 16:17, Andreas Mantke a écrit :
Hi all,
sorry because i jump in the thread here, but i hadvenot the time to read every
of the
- felt - two thausend posts about this topic on the list. I think, we are lost
in a
nice discussion about features and posibilities of CMS. That should in
Le 2010-10-20 16:38, Marc Paré a écrit :
Le 2010-10-20 16:13, Keith Williams a écrit :
One other nice feature that Drupal has is that it is easy to admin
multiple
sites. One Drupal host can be the source for X number of other sites.
Sites can share database tables, users, etc... So... Lets say
Le 2010-10-20 16:13, Keith Williams a écrit :
One other nice feature that Drupal has is that it is easy to admin multiple
sites. One Drupal host can be the source for X number of other sites.
Sites can share database tables, users, etc... So... Lets say you have a
wiki site and a foundation
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Andreas Mantke wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> sorry because i jump in the thread here, but i hadvenot the time to read
> every of the
> - felt - two thausend posts about this topic on the list. I think, we are
> lost in a
> nice discussion about features and posibilities of
Hi all,
sorry because i jump in the thread here, but i hadvenot the time to read every
of the
- felt - two thausend posts about this topic on the list. I think, we are lost
in a
nice discussion about features and posibilities of CMS. That should in my
opinion not
the focus of our discussion.
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Marc Paré wrote:
> Le 2010-10-20 13:31, Marc Paré a écrit :
>
> Le 2010-10-20 11:52, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi Benjamin, *,
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:17 AM, Benjamin Horst wrote:
>>>
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Benjamin Horst wrote:
Le 2010-10-20 13:31, Marc Paré a écrit :
Le 2010-10-20 11:52, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :
Hi Benjamin, *,
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:17 AM, Benjamin Horst wrote:
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Benjamin Horst wrote:
On Oct 18, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010
Le 2010-10-20 14:27, Keith Williams a écrit :
This is an example of a structured document:
http://www.mywebclass.org/~bhorst/content/example_book/structured_document
Drupal uses books for structured documents. You can download them with
index, import / expor them, print with PDF.
One nice thin
On Oct 20, 2010, at 2:27 PM, Keith Williams wrote:
> This is an example of a structured document:
>
> http://www.mywebclass.org/~bhorst/content/example_book/structured_document
>
> Drupal uses books for structured documents. You can download them with
> index, import / expor them, print with PD
This is an example of a structured document:
http://www.mywebclass.org/~bhorst/content/example_book/structured_document
Drupal uses books for structured documents. You can download them with
index, import / expor them, print with PDF.
One nice thing about Drupal is content types. Content types
Le 2010-10-20 14:12, Keith Williams a écrit :
Please excuse me with this whole inline posting thing. I don't use mailing
lists. I just post stuff on the web or use IRC. Marc asked me to repost
this i'm not sure if this is where he wanted it.
No. Silverstripe is a traditional CMS that would r
Please excuse me with this whole inline posting thing. I don't use mailing
lists. I just post stuff on the web or use IRC. Marc asked me to repost
this i'm not sure if this is where he wanted it.
No. Silverstripe is a traditional CMS that would require significant
development to add features u
Le 2010-10-20 11:50, Keith Williams a écrit :
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Marc Paré wrote:
Le 2010-10-20 10:40, Keith Williams a écrit :
Oh,
I also think that integrating LibO software (open office) with Drupal will
be the equivalent of the sharepoint/ms office integration that a lo
Le 2010-10-20 11:52, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :
Hi Benjamin, *,
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:17 AM, Benjamin Horst wrote:
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Benjamin Horst wrote:
On Oct 18, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Benjamin Horst wrote:
T
Le 2010-10-20 11:22, Andrea Pescetti a écrit :
Sophie Gautier wrote:
Just to point that we need to handle i18n and l10n easily also, this
is important to think this multilanguage way till the beginning.
Then I'll have to ask again what you mean by this!
1) Having translatable pages (meaning:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Christian Lohmaier <
lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com >wrote:
> Hi Andrea, *,
>
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Andrea Pescetti
> wrote:
> > Marc Paré wrote:
> >
> > A proper discussion would not fit the deadlines and tools the Document
> > Foundation has now
Hi Andrea, *,
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Andrea Pescetti
wrote:
> Marc Paré wrote:
>
> A proper discussion would not fit the deadlines and tools the Document
> Foundation has now: if a decision has to be taken now, it will miss the
> bigger scope. If the Document Foundation must choose a to
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Christian Lohmaier <
lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com >wrote:
> Hi Keith,
>
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Keith Williams
> wrote:
> > If you want to see another take on Drupal. I'm making a site to do
> project
> > management with it.
> >
> > Http://www.my
Hi Keith,
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Keith Williams
wrote:
> If you want to see another take on Drupal. I'm making a site to do project
> management with it.
>
> Http://www.mywebclass.org
>
> login brendan/brendan$1234
>
> All the forms and views of data were generated using the query buil
Hi Benjamin, *,
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:17 AM, Benjamin Horst wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Benjamin Horst wrote:
>>> On Oct 18, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Benjamin Horst wrote:
>>>
> Those who have said this were envisioning
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Marc Paré wrote:
> Le 2010-10-20 10:40, Keith Williams a écrit :
>
> Oh,
>>
>> I also think that integrating LibO software (open office) with Drupal will
>> be the equivalent of the sharepoint/ms office integration that a lot of
>> companies like. Gaining exper
Le 2010-10-20 11:00, Benjamin Horst a écrit :
Marc,
Thanks for stepping in here and helping us organize this last bit of work. Your
taking on the role of an impartial organizer is vital.
Thanks, no problem, I just happen to have the time to work on this. I am
just recovering from 2 spinal s
Sophie Gautier wrote:
> Just to point that we need to handle i18n and l10n easily also, this
> is important to think this multilanguage way till the beginning.
Then I'll have to ask again what you mean by this!
1) Having translatable pages (meaning: an English about page at
http://www.documentfou
Le 2010-10-20 10:40, Keith Williams a écrit :
Oh,
I also think that integrating LibO software (open office) with Drupal will
be the equivalent of the sharepoint/ms office integration that a lot of
companies like. Gaining experience with Drupal could prove to be a
strategic advantage / market bu
Marc,
Thanks for stepping in here and helping us organize this last bit of work. Your
taking on the role of an impartial organizer is vital.
On Oct 20, 2010, at 4:10 AM, Marc Paré wrote:
> Does anyone else have any specs to add to the list. Today (Wednesday) is most
> likely the last day that
Le 2010-10-20 10:14, Andre Schnabel a écrit :
1st) we need something to present information to our users and can be setup
in rather short time, does not cost to much time regarding maintenance and
provides an rather easy way to edit content.
People are currently asking for better structure and mo
Le 2010-10-20 10:38, Keith Williams a écrit :
I just want to reiterate the points made above are basically what I've been
trying to explain. Silverstripe is really a dead end, it isn't even the
same class as Drupal and the only way you would know that is to spend some
time with it Drupal, or to
Le 2010-10-20 04:43, Marc Paré a écrit :
I have re-read all of the posts and thus far:
* the search for a CMS has been narrowed down to two packages,
Silverstripe (http://www.silverstripe.com/) and Drupal
(http://www.drupal.org)
* demo websites were created:
**Silverstripes: http://pumbaa.oood
Oh,
I also think that integrating LibO software (open office) with Drupal will
be the equivalent of the sharepoint/ms office integration that a lot of
companies like. Gaining experience with Drupal could prove to be a
strategic advantage / market builder for this project.
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at
I just want to reiterate the points made above are basically what I've been
trying to explain. Silverstripe is really a dead end, it isn't even the
same class as Drupal and the only way you would know that is to spend some
time with it Drupal, or to have a live demo done by an experienced user.
I
Hi André,
On Oct 20, 2010, at 10:14 AM, Andre Schnabel wrote:
> 1st) we need something to present information to our users and can be setup
> in rather short time, does not cost to much time regarding maintenance and
> provides an rather easy way to edit content.
> People are currently asking for
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Andre Schnabel wrote:
> Hi,
>
>>
>> Yes, you have strong arguments for taking more time to consider the use
>> of appropriate CMS. However, it sounds like the SC would like to have
>> the decision made by Friday and I expect that the SC has had some "ears"
>> liste
Hi,
>
> Yes, you have strong arguments for taking more time to consider the use
> of appropriate CMS. However, it sounds like the SC would like to have
> the decision made by Friday and I expect that the SC has had some "ears"
> listening on our conversations on this thread.
Just wanted to s
Le 2010-10-20 07:26, Andrea Pescetti a écrit :
Marc Paré wrote:
I have re-read all of the posts and thus far: ...
Have I missed any? Please add points to this list that have come to a
resolution of debate among the contributors of this thread.
I have re-read all of them too, not only your summ
Marc Paré wrote:
> I have re-read all of the posts and thus far: ...
> Have I missed any? Please add points to this list that have come to a
> resolution of debate among the contributors of this thread.
I have re-read all of them too, not only your summary, and I still see
we have strategic choi
Le 2010-10-20 00:17, Benjamin Horst a écrit :
> But I'm surely not the only one who will make that decision. Again to
> stress it: It is the content editors/native-lang people basically
> who'll work with it, so it needs to be easy to use for/them/, not
> nice for the admin.
> If both is com
Hi Ben,
Benjamin Horst wrote on 2010-10-20 05.05:
Glad to hear the server will be available soon (or perhaps is already
available). Are you planning to install one or both of the CMS options tomorrow
(Wednesday)?
the machine isn't there yet, and I will be out my home the rest of the
week.
I have re-read all of the posts and thus far:
* the search for a CMS has been narrowed down to two packages,
Silverstripe (http://www.silverstripe.com/) and Drupal
(http://www.drupal.org)
* demo websites were created:
**Silverstripes: http://pumbaa.ooodev.org:7780/ -- advocated by
Christian
Le 2010-10-19 23:50, Benjamin Horst a écrit :
On Oct 19, 2010, at 1:17 PM, Marc Paré wrote:
Le 2010-10-18 04:37, Andre Schnabel a écrit :
Hi,
I see that there are lots of discussion, which CMS to use, what features
are needed ... at the other hand, users and language teams need more
info at
Le 2010-10-20 00:13, Benjamin Horst a écrit :
Hi Graham,
On Oct 19, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Graham Lauder wrote:
On Wednesday 20 Oct 2010 02:16:38 Benjamin Horst wrote:
On Oct 19, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Graham Lauder wrote:
On Tuesday 19 Oct 2010 12:39:56 Keith Williams wrote:
Yes, I respect Christia
Le 2010-10-19 23:05, Benjamin Horst a écrit :
Florian,
On Oct 19, 2010, at 4:58 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi folks,
just to jump in: Yesterday night, the new server (which will be used for CMS)
has been ordered. Should be available today, and I hope to have finished a
basic installatio
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