Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS - Prototype or demo?

2010-10-28 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-28 18:07, Erich Christian a écrit : Hi Ben, @ll, Am 28.10.2010 17:46, schrieb Benjamin Horst: On Oct 27, 2010, at 1:27 AM, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-10-27 01:02, Carlos Jenkins a écrit : Thanks for the offer to help Carlos. Thank you for including me Marc. I'm eager to work with yo

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS - Prototype or demo?

2010-10-28 Thread Erich Christian
Hi Ben, @ll, Am 28.10.2010 17:46, schrieb Benjamin Horst: > On Oct 27, 2010, at 1:27 AM, Marc Paré wrote: >> Le 2010-10-27 01:02, Carlos Jenkins a écrit : Thanks for the offer to help Carlos. >>> Thank you for including me Marc. I'm eager to work with you all :) >> Let's just wait for a wor

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS - Prototype or demo?

2010-10-28 Thread Benjamin Horst
On Oct 27, 2010, at 1:27 AM, Marc Paré wrote: > Le 2010-10-27 01:02, Carlos Jenkins a écrit : >>> >>> Thanks for the offer to help Carlos. I'll add you to the list of helpers on >>> the Wiki page here: >>> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Evaluation_of_CMS_Platforms#CMS_Volunteer_Admin

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS - Prototype or demo?

2010-10-26 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-27 01:02, Carlos Jenkins a écrit : Thanks for the offer to help Carlos. I'll add you to the list of helpers on the Wiki page here: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Evaluation_of_CMS_Platforms#CMS_Volunteer_Admin_Support Thank you for including me Marc. I'm eager to work w

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS - Prototype or demo?

2010-10-26 Thread Carlos Jenkins
> > Thanks for the offer to help Carlos. I'll add you to the list of helpers on > the Wiki page here: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Evaluation_of_CMS_Platforms#CMS_Volunteer_Admin_Support > Thank you for including me Marc. I'm eager to work with you all :) I also do have a webserver

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS - Prototype or demo?

2010-10-26 Thread Benjamin Horst
On Oct 26, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Erich Christian wrote: > Hi Ben, Marc, > > Am 26.10.2010 17:22, schrieb Benjamin Horst: >> On Oct 26, 2010, at 11:12 AM, Marc Paré wrote: >>> BTW 2 ... I have time to mount the Drupal site for sure if Ben has time >>> commitment problems with this. >> >> I do have

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS - Prototype or demo?

2010-10-26 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-26 12:45, Marc Paré a écrit : Le 2010-10-26 11:18, Andre Schnabel a écrit : Hi Marc, Von: "Marc Paré" BTW ... it wouldn't surprise me if the SC were to decide tomorrow during their meeting. Yes, it's on the agenda. Unless they have the same problem as Christian who would lik

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS - Prototype or demo?

2010-10-26 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-26 11:18, Andre Schnabel a écrit : Hi Marc, Von: "Marc Paré" BTW ... it wouldn't surprise me if the SC were to decide tomorrow during their meeting. Yes, it's on the agenda. Unless they have the same problem as Christian who would like to see a working model more than what is

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS - Prototype or demo?

2010-10-26 Thread Benjamin Horst
On Oct 26, 2010, at 11:18 AM, Andre Schnabel wrote: > Hi Marc, > >> Von: "Marc Paré" > >> >> BTW ... it wouldn't surprise me if the SC were to decide tomorrow during >> their meeting. > > Yes, it's on the agenda. > >> Unless they have the same problem as Christian who would >> like to se

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS - Prototype or demo?

2010-10-26 Thread Erich Christian
Hi Ben, Marc, Am 26.10.2010 17:22, schrieb Benjamin Horst: > On Oct 26, 2010, at 11:12 AM, Marc Paré wrote: >> BTW 2 ... I have time to mount the Drupal site for sure if Ben has time >> commitment problems with this. > > I do have time commitment challenges, so if you want to set up a site that

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS - Prototype or demo?

2010-10-26 Thread Benjamin Horst
On Oct 26, 2010, at 11:12 AM, Marc Paré wrote: > If it makes any difference, you could also give me a list of the module and I > will install Drupal along with the modules and then give Drupal people on the > list admin access to the site and you could just do you thing. > > BTW ... it wouldn't

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS - Prototype or demo?

2010-10-26 Thread Andre Schnabel
Hi Marc, > Von: "Marc Paré" > > BTW ... it wouldn't surprise me if the SC were to decide tomorrow during > their meeting. Yes, it's on the agenda. > Unless they have the same problem as Christian who would > like to see a working model more than what is on the Drupal site now, we > could

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS - Prototype or demo?

2010-10-26 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-26 08:40, Benjamin Horst a écrit : Erich, On Oct 25, 2010, at 7:24 PM, Erich Christian wrote: So go ahead and set it up properly - I'm going to provide a user account on my webserver for this purpose but I'd really prefer to see a couple of reliable people administering this webspace

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS - Prototype or demo?

2010-10-26 Thread Benjamin Horst
Erich, On Oct 25, 2010, at 7:24 PM, Erich Christian wrote: > So go ahead and set it up properly - I'm going to provide a user account > on my webserver for this purpose but I'd really prefer to see a couple > of reliable people administering this webspace and the demo - for I am > not going to do

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS - Prototype or demo?

2010-10-25 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-25 19:24, Erich Christian a écrit : Am 25.10.2010 23:13, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Benjamin Horst wrote: we'd need to set up a separate demo site on someone else's hosting account, because no one else has access to the filesystem on his webserver. And, for those not knowing Drupal, a

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS - Prototype or demo?

2010-10-25 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-25 16:36, Carlos Jenkins a écrit : Hi all, I had a quick search in his mails and got: I use the following modules on my sites, this could help demo site admins to achieve what is excepted: As always: *drush dl diff workflow* Workflow system (request for publication and checked b

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS - Prototype or demo?

2010-10-25 Thread Erich Christian
Am 25.10.2010 23:13, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: > Benjamin Horst wrote: >> we'd need to set up a separate demo site on someone else's hosting >> account, because no one else has access to the filesystem on his >> webserver. > And, for those not knowing Drupal, access to the filesystem is a > prerequi

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS - Prototype or demo?

2010-10-25 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Benjamin Horst wrote: > we'd need to set up a separate demo site on someone else's hosting > account, because no one else has access to the filesystem on his > webserver. And, for those not knowing Drupal, access to the filesystem is a prerequisite for installing modules, something I probably shou

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS - Prototype or demo?

2010-10-25 Thread Benjamin Horst
On Oct 25, 2010, at 4:50 PM, Carlos Jenkins wrote: > Hi Christian, > > As I understood, the deadline is over. So, take the decisions with the tools > you have now, please. If Drupal is chosen, I will help. If not, maybe for > the next future infrastructure migration (as said maybe in 11/12 month

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS - Prototype or demo?

2010-10-25 Thread Carlos Jenkins
Hi Christian, As I understood, the deadline is over. So, take the decisions with the tools you have now, please. If Drupal is chosen, I will help. If not, maybe for the next future infrastructure migration (as said maybe in 11/12 months) I could prepare a good demo site (actually, prototype) with

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS - Prototype or demo?

2010-10-25 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Carlos, > [a list of what various drupal extensions that would heal the world] Sorry for being so condescending here, but I read too many of that kind of answers already. *Please* don't hesitate and turn the drupal demo at http://www.mywebclass.org/~bhorst into something usable - install th

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS - Prototype or demo?

2010-10-25 Thread Carlos Jenkins
Hi all, I had a quick search in his mails and got: > > I use the following modules on my sites, this could help demo site admins to achieve what is excepted: As always: *drush dl diff workflow* > Workflow system (request for publication and checked by others) > http://drupal.org/project/workflow

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS - Prototype or demo?

2010-10-25 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Bernhard, *, 2010/10/25 Bernhard Dippold : >> Le 2010-10-25 09:20, Benjamin Horst a écrit : >>> On Oct 25, 2010, at 7:52 AM, Bernhard Dippold wrote: > > The following wasn't written by me, but by Marc ;-) > > I don't think that a demo should have all of the features active > when it

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS - Prototype or demo?

2010-10-25 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Marc, Ben, all, Marc Paré schrieb: Le 2010-10-25 09:20, Benjamin Horst a écrit : On Oct 25, 2010, at 7:52 AM, Bernhard Dippold wrote: The following wasn't written by me, but by Marc ;-) I don't think that a demo should have all of the features active when it was thrown together in so lit

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-25 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-25 09:20, Benjamin Horst a écrit : On Oct 25, 2010, at 7:52 AM, Bernhard Dippold wrote: I don't think that a demo should have all of the features active when it was thrown together in so little time. It is not work messing up your server space with potential hacking. As mentioned e

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-25 Thread Benjamin Horst
On Oct 25, 2010, at 7:52 AM, Bernhard Dippold wrote: >> I don't think that a demo should have all of the features active when it >> was thrown together in so little time. It is not work messing up your >> server space with potential hacking. > > As mentioned earlier, the problem derives from call

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-25 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Marc, * sorry for replying so late... Marc Paré schrieb: Le 2010-10-22 18:39, Bernhard Dippold a écrit : [...] Christian requested internal / relative links to other pages on our homepage. Do we need to use static links instead if we want to work on Drupal? I added the "Marketing" page.

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-24 Thread jonathon
On 10/23/2010 12:08 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: >> Point to an existing Silverstripe site that: > > You you just think it won't scale, but didn't see any indication for > that on the site. Can you point to a single _existing_ SilverStripe site that has more than a quarter of a million pages in

Re: Saying hello! (was: Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS)

2010-10-23 Thread Ivan M.
Hi Christoph, On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Christoph Noack wrote: > Hi Ivan, > > sorry for de-purifying the CMS thread, but I really wanted to say > "Welcome!". I'm very happy that your stressful time seems to be over ... > or at least, the effort level decreased a bit :-) Thank you for the

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-23 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Christian Lohmaier wrote: > Hi Rimas, > > On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Rimas Kudelis wrote: > > 2010.10.23 03:26, Christian Lohmaier rašė: > >> [...] > >> And when the target-page's name is change, the links are not updated, > >> but just happen to work because of the redirect/duplication tha

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-23 Thread Christian Lohmaier
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 12:41 PM, jonathon wrote: > On 10/23/2010 12:14 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: > >> So please: Don't just make claims, explain them. > > Point to an existing Silverstripe site that: You you just think it won't scale, but didn't see any indication for that on the stie. So j

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-23 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Rimas, On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Rimas Kudelis wrote: > 2010.10.23 03:26, Christian Lohmaier rašė: >> [...] >> And when the target-page's name is change, the links are not updated, >> but just happen to work because of the redirect/duplication that is >> added. > > Hi folks, > > Two sec

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-23 Thread jonathon
On 10/23/2010 12:14 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: > So please: Don't just make claims, explain them. Point to an existing Silverstripe site that: * has content in at least fifty different languages; * Each language covers at least ten different areas; * Each area has a minimum of 50 pages; IOW

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-23 Thread Rimas Kudelis
2010.10.23 03:26, Christian Lohmaier rašė: Hi Marc, *, On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 12:15 AM, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-10-22 17:09, Bernhard Dippold a écrit : elieve Drupal offers everything listed above and on the wiki Please try - I didn't find the button to add a link either. This might be a m

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-22 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-22 21:44, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : I was wondering if this was a common method of operating with demos, as most of the membership could not in fact test-try your demo for comparison's sake. On the other hand, maybe you removed the site from an easier access venue to this type of a

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-22 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Marc, On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 3:23 AM, Marc Paré wrote: > Le 2010-10-22 21:03, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : > [...] > I am just a little confused. I thought I had been on your demo site a while > ago and now it is no longer accessible from the member list unless they go > through this setup?

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-22 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-22 21:03, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : Hi Marc, *, On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 2:53 AM, Marc Paré wrote: Ok, I am more of a user than a dev, as you have probably seen from my posts. To get to the "user" demo site, I am on a Mandriva system. How would I then access your demo site. I don

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-22 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Marc, *, On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 2:53 AM, Marc Paré wrote: > > Ok, I am more of a user than a dev, as you have probably seen from my posts. > To get to the "user" demo site, I am on a Mandriva system. How would I then > access your demo site. I don't quite understand why the test site is not >

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-22 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-22 20:43, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : Hi Marc, On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 2:37 AM, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-10-22 20:29, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 2:23 AM, Andy Brown wrote: How does one go about testing the demo listing above? All I see is a copy of t

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-22 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Marc, On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 2:37 AM, Marc Paré wrote: > Le 2010-10-22 20:29, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : >> On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 2:23 AM, Andy Brown >>  wrote: >>> >>> How does one go about testing the demo listing above?  All I see is a >>> copy >>> of the TDF web pages.  There is no lo

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-22 Thread Andy Brown
On Fri Oct 22 2010 17:29:09 GMT-0700 (PDT) Christian Lohmaier wrote: Hi Andy, On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 2:23 AM, Andy Brown wrote: How does one go about testing the demo listing above? All I see is a copy of the TDF web pages. There is no login that I can see. See http://www.mail-archive.co

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-22 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-22 20:29, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : Hi Andy, On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 2:23 AM, Andy Brown wrote: How does one go about testing the demo listing above? All I see is a copy of the TDF web pages. There is no login that I can see. See http://www.mail-archive.com/website@libreoffi

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-22 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Andy, On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 2:23 AM, Andy Brown wrote: > > How does one go about testing the demo listing above?  All I see is a copy > of the TDF web pages.  There is no login that I can see. See http://www.mail-archive.com/website@libreoffice.org/msg00337.html ciao Christian -- E-mail t

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-22 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Marc, *, On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 12:15 AM, Marc Paré wrote: > Le 2010-10-22 17:09, Bernhard Dippold a écrit : > > elieve Drupal offers everything listed above and on the wiki >> >> Please try - I didn't find the button to add a link either. This might >> be a minor bug, but it is crucial for t

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-22 Thread Andy Brown
On Fri Oct 22 2010 17:14:23 GMT-0700 (PDT) Christian Lohmaier wrote: What on earth, by looking at the demo site (on http://pumbaa.ooodev.org:7780) makes you think that it wouldn't scale? And if the site of the democratic convention is not a site that had a need for scalability, of the one from

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-22 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Jonathon, On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 12:10 AM, jonathon wrote: > On 10/22/2010 12:54 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: > >> I don't see any traces from a workflow system - either you publish or you >> don't there's no way to have it requested for publication to have it checked >> by others, etc. >

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-22 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-22 18:39, Bernhard Dippold a écrit : Marc Paré schrieb: Le 2010-10-22 17:09, Bernhard Dippold a écrit : elieve Drupal offers everything listed above and on the wiki page. Please try - I didn't find the button to add a link either. This might be a minor bug, but it is crucial for t

Saying hello! (was: Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS)

2010-10-22 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Ivan, sorry for de-purifying the CMS thread, but I really wanted to say "Welcome!". I'm very happy that your stressful time seems to be over ... or at least, the effort level decreased a bit :-) Cheers, Christoph Am Freitag, den 22.10.2010, 19:41 +1300 schrieb Ivan M.: > Hello all, > > First

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-22 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-22 16:34, Bernhard Dippold a écrit : I don't know if we need such formal decisions on groups and teams. I think what we had at the OOo lists worked quite well: People known for their amount of active contribution have been heard by the majority of list members, So, in a sense you di

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-22 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Marc Paré schrieb: Le 2010-10-22 17:09, Bernhard Dippold a écrit : elieve Drupal offers everything listed above and on the wiki page. Please try - I didn't find the button to add a link either. This might be a minor bug, but it is crucial for the work of our teams. Best regards Bernhard

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-22 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-22 18:10, jonathon a écrit : On 10/22/2010 12:54 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: I don't see any traces from a workflow system - either you publish or you don't there's no way to have it requested for publication to have it checked by others, etc. I haven't looked at the demo, but

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-22 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-22 17:09, Bernhard Dippold a écrit : elieve Drupal offers everything listed above and on the wiki page. Please try - I didn't find the button to add a link either. This might be a minor bug, but it is crucial for the work of our teams. Best regards Bernhard Try it now. It is

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-22 Thread jonathon
On 10/22/2010 09:09 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote: > these requirements have probably been too basic to write them down too. A requirement that is too basic to be written down, is a requirement that is guaranteed to be ignored, and be the requirement that will arise and destroy the project in tota

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-22 Thread jonathon
On 10/22/2010 12:54 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: > I don't see any traces from a workflow system - either you publish or you > don't there's no way to have it requested for publication to have it checked > by others, etc. I haven't looked at the demo, but on the Drupal system I help admin, con

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-22 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Ben, all, (especially the ones trying to work on the Drupal demo during the last days) Benjamin Horst schrieb: On Oct 21, 2010, at 7:03 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote: But *could* is not enough: We need a working website *now* (to be honest, we would have needed in already two weeks ago). Wh

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-22 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Marc, Marc Paré schrieb: [...] Thanks for the note André. I am still trying to get the feel for how the hierarchy works at LibO. I have been taking part/lurking in many mailists and threads and one of my concerns are that, as we found here, there has been no real formal structure setup for t

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-22 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-22 12:29, André Schnabel a écrit : Hi, Am 22.10.2010 15:56, schrieb Marc Paré: I am in total agreement with these statements. The process was somehow not well organized. Still, we managed to discuss it. We need to organise these kind of thing a little formally as well as strateg

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-22 Thread André Schnabel
Hi, Am 22.10.2010 15:56, schrieb Marc Paré: I am in total agreement with these statements. The process was somehow not well organized. Still, we managed to discuss it. We need to organise these kind of thing a little formally as well as strategically next time. This will ensure better resul

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-22 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-22 08:52, Benjamin Horst a écrit : On Oct 22, 2010, at 8:43 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: To be fair, this left the Drupal team little time to organise and put forth a decent demo-site as well as manage the discussions on the mailist. No, to be fair one has to note that drupal, whi

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-22 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-22 02:57, David Nelson a écrit : Hi Marc, :-) On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 00:21, Marc Paré wrote: I'll add you to the list. Is there a preference of CMS? No, I'll go with whatever CMS the project decides to use. David Nelson Thanks David. Marc -- E-mail to website+h...@libreoffi

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-22 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Benjamin, On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Benjamin Horst wrote: > On Oct 21, 2010, at 7:03 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote: >> [...] >> If the Drupal demo allows all this *now*, I'd ask Christian to have one more >> look at the demo. > > Yes, I believe Drupal offers everything listed above and on

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-22 Thread Benjamin Horst
On Oct 22, 2010, at 8:43 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: >> To be fair, >> this left the Drupal team little time to organise and put forth a decent >> demo-site as well as manage the discussions on the mailist. > > No, to be fair one has to note that drupal, while loudly advocating it > didn't use

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-22 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Marc, *, On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 4:25 AM, Marc Paré wrote: > Le 2010-10-18 04:37, Andre Schnabel a écrit : > > I have updated the Wiki and tried to be as impartial as possible. For the > lack of time, with answering as many posting on the Website mailist, the > Drupal team could not rally and

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-22 Thread Benjamin Horst
On Oct 21, 2010, at 7:03 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote: > > But *could* is not enough: We need a working website *now* (to be honest, we > would have needed in already two weeks ago). > > What has not been communicated in the past is: The demo will be (at least I > think so) the basis for the new

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-22 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Bernhard, *, Bernhard Dippold schrieb: [.. Drupal could fit all needs for TDF/LibreOffice Website ..] >But *could* is not enough: We need a working website *now* (to be >honest, we would have needed in already two weeks ago). I strongly support that: *now* already is too late! So let's start

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-22 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Ivan, *, Welcome to LibreOffice breeding team. (You could as well welcome me - we are all new members here ;o))) Ivan M. schrieb: >Hello all, >First of all, I'd like to introduce myself since this is my first >email in the LibreOffice community. I'm Ivan, I live in New Zealand, >and I've be

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-21 Thread David Nelson
Hi Marc, :-) On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 00:21, Marc Paré wrote: > I'll add you to the list. Is there a preference of CMS? No, I'll go with whatever CMS the project decides to use. David Nelson -- E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are avail

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-21 Thread Ivan M.
Hello all, First of all, I'd like to introduce myself since this is my first email in the LibreOffice community. I'm Ivan, I live in New Zealand, and I've been a (reasonably) active member of the OpenOffice.org Art (later Branding) and Website projects. I would like to offer those same skills to L

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-21 Thread André Schnabel
Him Marc, just a short notice ... Am 22.10.2010 04:25, schrieb Marc Paré: It is Thursday night here in Canada and I am trying to complete the report on the Wiki for our presumed Friday deadline. Note that I have tried as best as possible to remain neutral in all of the arguments. it is frid

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-21 Thread Marc Paré
Hi people: I realise now that I forgot to include the Wiki page: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Evaluation_of_CMS_Platforms Cheers Marc -- E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-21 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-18 04:37, Andre Schnabel a écrit : Hi, I see that there are lots of discussion, which CMS to use, what features are needed ... at the other hand, users and language teams need more info at our website - nad without the infrastructure in place we cannot give more information. The issu

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-21 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Keith, all I'm very sorry that none of the proposers of Drupal took his time to tell Keith exactly what are our basic needs for our website. Christian tried to point him to the wiki page, but I assume that Keith doesn't know how the OOo community has been built up and how this community h

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-21 Thread Gustav H Meyer
On 21/10/2010 23:18, Marc Paré wrote: So, would you like to help out if it is still a little bit? It's a community endeavour. Obviously yes. :-) Regards, Gustav -- E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffi

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-21 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-21 16:42, Gustav H Meyer a écrit : Hi Marc, On 21/10/2010 21:36, Marc Paré wrote: Do you have much experience in CMS admin services? I'm more of a back-end kind of guy, installing, configuring, integrating, managing, monitoring anything from firewalls, proxies, apache, php, mysql,

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-21 Thread Gustav H Meyer
Hi Marc, On 21/10/2010 21:36, Marc Paré wrote: Do you have much experience in CMS admin services? I'm more of a back-end kind of guy, installing, configuring, integrating, managing, monitoring anything from firewalls, proxies, apache, php, mysql, tomcat, jboss, mailman, bugzilla, wikimedia,

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-21 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-21 15:09, Gustav H Meyer a écrit : Hi, My first posting here. On 21/10/2010 19:03, Marc Paré wrote: Having said that, the Wiki page should the give the SC some kink of idea of what the Website members favour. Whether the SC adopt Drupal or Silverstripe is really not of our concern.

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-21 Thread Gustav H Meyer
Hi, My first posting here. On 21/10/2010 19:03, Marc Paré wrote: Having said that, the Wiki page should the give the SC some kink of idea of what the Website members favour. Whether the SC adopt Drupal or Silverstripe is really not of our concern. We were just given the task of investigating th

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-21 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-21 12:51, Marc Paré a écrit : Having said that, the Wiki page should the give the SC some kink of idea of what the Website members favour. Whether the SC adopt Drupal or Silverstripe is really not of our concern. We were just given the task of investigating the possibilities and the r

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-21 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-21 00:39, David Nelson a écrit : Hi, :-) On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 05:26, Marc Paré wrote: Thanks. We are probably at the point again where we should have a show of hands for people who are willing to help out with website support. I'll make a note of it on the update progress file th

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-21 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-21 10:25, Drew Jensen a écrit : For accuracy sake On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 10:07 -0400, Drew Jensen should of written: Thanks to google I ran into the SC minutes where they said for the website mail _list_ to make a decision and report back to them. It[1] called for that decision to b

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-21 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-21 00:39, David Nelson a écrit : Hi, :-) On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 05:26, Marc Paré wrote: Thanks. We are probably at the point again where we should have a show of hands for people who are willing to help out with website support. I'll make a note of it on the update progress file th

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-21 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-21 08:13, Erich Christian a écrit : Hi Marc, Drew, The thread on the german list is rather about using the silverstripe demo than on a different look and feel or use of the upcoming de website, and yes, we're here on this list together with you :-) Erich Thanks Erich and Drew.

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-21 Thread Benjamin Horst
On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:51 AM, Drew Jensen wrote: >>> What do you think? >> >> As bad as it can be, the Document Foundation is still an oligarchy. Let >> the SC choose. Then if people believe a simple majority vote is best we >> can go that way, but I'm not sure times are ready for this. >> >> R

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-21 Thread Drew Jensen
> > What do you think? > > As bad as it can be, the Document Foundation is still an oligarchy. Let > the SC choose. Then if people believe a simple majority vote is best we > can go that way, but I'm not sure times are ready for this. > > Regards, > Andrea. > Fair enough - anyone see it diff

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-21 Thread Nino Novak
On Thursday 21 October 2010 16:07, Drew Jensen wrote: > What do you think? I doubt voting being an appropriate approach here. First: Who should vote? The only rationale is to let the prospective users vote, but do we know who they are? The leads of the national teams? The marketing leads? S

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-21 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Drew Jensen wrote: > So - proposal - if no agreement is coming then a vote? > Either that or let the SC choose as I read the minutes. I don't think the Document Foundation community is ready for a democratic vote. Probably every move and decision taken so far has been taken by the Steering Committ

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-21 Thread Karl-Heinz Gödderz
Andrea Pescetti schrieb: > Sophie Gautier wrote: > >> Just to point that we need to handle i18n and l10n easily also, this >> is important to think this multilanguage way till the beginning. >> > > Then I'll have to ask again what you mean by this! > > 1) Having translatable pages (meaning:

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-21 Thread Drew Jensen
For accuracy sake > On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 10:07 -0400, Drew Jensen should of written: > > Thanks to google I ran into the SC minutes where they said for the > website mail _list_ to make a decision and report back to them. It[1] called for that decision to be made by today. [not 2 days ago] :-/

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-21 Thread Drew Jensen
On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 10:07 -0400, Drew Jensen should of written: Thanks to google I ran into the SC minutes where they said for the website mail _list_ to make a decision and report back to them. It called for that decision to be made 2 days ago. -- E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org f

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-21 Thread Drew Jensen
Howdy, Well, not sure I see a lot of coming together to a common agreement here. Thanks to google I ran into the SC minutes where they said for the website mail lost to make a decision and report back to them. It called for that decision to be made 2 days ago. So - proposal - if no agreement is

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-21 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Keith, On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 5:36 AM, Keith Williams wrote: > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Christian Lohmaier < > lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com >wrote: > > Look Christian, I don't use email to communicate with groups of people. That's probably the reason why you keep writing the sa

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-21 Thread Erich Christian
Am 21.10.2010 03:27, schrieb Marc Paré: > Le 2010-10-20 17:59, Drew Jensen a écrit : >> This heavey emphasis on >> allowing rather unskilled people to produce widely varying web sites, >> and they really can be, both in appearance and User Interaction patterns >> is something that _will_ be neeeded

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-20 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi Keith, Keith Williams schrieb: Look Christian, I don't use email to communicate with groups of people. I use comments on discussion boards. I really don't know what you mean full quotes and frankly at this point I don't care. Sounds a little bit ignorant, which I hope is a wrong impress

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-20 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 05:26, Marc Paré wrote: > Thanks. We are probably at the point again where we should have a show of > hands for people who are willing to help out with website support. I'll make > a note of it on the update progress file that I am keeping. > Anyone else, again? I

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-20 Thread Drew Jensen
> Also, you speak of the German mailist are also talking of this subject. > Is there any way that we could hear what they are saying? ? Hear - yes, but first you can read the lists at: http://oucv.org/tdf.html Go to the German mailing lists - Nabble is a bitch because you can not run it throu

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-20 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-20 17:43, Benjamin Horst a écrit : This makes sense. I have just proposed this with Andre as well as the fact that there is probably a person on this discussion thread who would be willing to update the Wiki for public viewing. Marc As suggested somewhere, I've created a table on

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-20 Thread Keith Williams
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Christian Lohmaier < lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com >wrote: > Hi Benjamin, *, > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:17 AM, Benjamin Horst wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Benjamin Horst wrote: > >>> On Oct 18, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: >

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-20 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-20 17:43, Benjamin Horst a écrit : This makes sense. I have just proposed this with Andre as well as the fact that there is probably a person on this discussion thread who would be willing to update the Wiki for public viewing. Marc As suggested somewhere, I've created a table on

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-20 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-20 19:56, Drew Jensen a écrit : Sorry, rephrase one thought - On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 19:50 -0400, Drew Jensen meant to write: Reading the discussions on the membership question it seems like most of us are either 100% in agreement,or very close to agreement on the parts that count..so

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-20 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-20 19:19, Andrea Pescetti a écrit : Marc Paré wrote: So, there are 2 things to consider: 1. Does the SC wish #1 [AP: translatable pages] or the #2 [AP: subsites] option? 2. Can either Silverstripe and Drupal support either of these scenarios. Opinions on #2 is the one that is really

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