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@Lupo, I'm getting the numbers directly from the Commons database. Here's my
SQL if anyone with access to the database wants to double-check:
select fa_name, log_timestamp,
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I agree with Lupo. Stop denying the problem by presenting fake or wrong
numbers.
Why it is so difficult to get a correct statistic? Why volunteer need to
explain thousand times
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Can somebody summarize what the current restrictions are? It's just
autoconfirmed on local wiki, right?
That is correct.
Can somebody explain to me why this user
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mariadb select count(log_timestamp) from filearchive, logging
where fa_name = log_title and log_action = upload and log_timestamp =
'2014070100';
1 row(s)
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http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23wikimedia-mobile/20140722.txt and
http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23wikimedia-mobile/20140723.txt
Mainly focusing on what
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[17:05:11] Maryana legoktm: can you run those numbers for after july 10?
[17:05:36] legoktm sure.
[17:06:49] legoktm 219237 uploads overall
[17:07:04]
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Patch for lazy-loading bug (bug 68414) checked in:
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There's a decent chance this loophole is responsible for the discrepancy in
uploading
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BTW, on July 19, 2014, I've seen three uploads through Mobile/Web without
proper {{information}} template:
...
Happened again. Opened bug 68321 for
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I suggest to allow uploads only by autopatrolled users and where global
usercount is +400 edits.
^^ can we do this? @Jon
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http://sustainableman.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/DrIanMalcom.jpg
Of course, anything is possible, but let's look at this differently. We have
significantly more users from mobile uploading
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Yes, we do see some changes. The number of Mobile/Web uploads has been about
halved, from about 200 to 100 per day. However, of these 100, the vast majority
(in the area of 70-95%) is still
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The most important statement from comment #65:
the users
of the feature have NO CLUE about copyrights, free licenses, or the Commons.
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BTW, on July 19, 2014, I've seen three uploads through Mobile/Web without
proper {{information}} template:
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should take affect on Thursday, July 10
If i'm right, the change is now in production for 9 days. I'm very interested
in, if you
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Change 143822 merged by jenkins-bot:
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Okay, There are still 80% nonsense/copyright violation uploads.
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Mabye you like to IF globa_editcount = +900 allow mobile upload.?
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Change 143751 had a related patch set uploaded by Florianschmidtwelzow:
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According to http://mobile-reportcard.wmflabs.org/#uploads_daily-graphs-tab,
restricting the upload page-action button to autoconfirmed users had no effect
on mobile uploads
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I took a look at data and can confirm the filter is working on /English/
Wikipedia. There have been no uploads from users with an edit count of 0.
On the other hand there were uploads from the
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Kaldari pointed out the above data is not accurate as it uses the edit count on
English Wikipedia not the native wiki.
I took a look at tablet vs mobile through the lead photo upload icon.
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In the meantime, we've added a new change which also hides the Upload button in
the left menubar unless the user is autoconfirmed. If that doesn't improve
things, we may need to
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I just took a look at the deletion stats -- while the autoconfirmed change did
decrease the total number of uploads coming from the in-article upload button,
as opposed to the
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(So, Steinsplitter, I don't think the 80% junk rate you quote above is
entirely
accurate.)
Just have a look at
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(So, Steinsplitter,
I don't think the 80% junk rate you quote above is entirely accurate.)
Not all uploads will be deleted
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FYI, the latest change (hiding the upload button in the left sidebar menu
unless the user is autoconfirmed) should take affect on Thursday, July 10. This
basically makes it impossible
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makes it impossible to upload from mobile unless you are autoconfirmed
What if some users have a bookmark to Special:Uploads or still navigate
directly to upload page :) they
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If i'm right, it's still online :)
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If i'm right, it's still online :)
What does _that_ mean? What is it, and what does being online mean here?
The two Gerrit commits mentioned in
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1. Is the autoconfirmed users only implemented as part of this bug now active
or not?
Yes.
2. Should we be seeing any improvements at the Commons already or not?
Yes. I wanted a
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And *when* does this go live? So far I have not seen any improvement.
Could Mobile folks please provide an answer? Thanks.
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And *when* does this go live? So far I have not seen any improvement.
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See https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/137462
That is about not displaying the upload button in some other cases. The change
about disabling this for
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Sorry for not replying here in a long time. There was a change of product
manager in the mobile team which slowed things down and made us lose focus.
Just to let you know, the
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Is the data that
Steinsplitter quotes based on period after that date?
Yes.
If it was enabled on the 15th, I had been patrolling that image
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We're going to try limiting mobile web uploading to autoconfirmed users,
Limiting this to autoconfirmed users is certainly worth a try. I
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ca. 84% provable copyvios, 14% unused unusable selfies.
If the devs are ignoring this bug i and my admincolleges will take the
necessary steps to block mobile upload onwiki or
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This should be live on Thursday. Let's see if this improves the situation
somewhat...
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Just a heads up that the an experimental fix for this has been merged into the
beta mode of mobile, but it will still take a while until it gets to stable.
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still take a while... monts, weeks?
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We're also doing analysis as to what call to actions produce more deleted
images, that way we can also analyze UI level fixes to this issue.
I'm thinking right now that we can first try
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One other option would be to have a more stringent EXIF filter for non-iPhone
mobile uploads. In other words, require non-iPhone mobile uploads to have more
EXIF data such as
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One other option:
If the user das - 10/-5 (?) edits and multiple Tineye_matches, block upload.
I am not sure if this is possible, becous mobile web needs to query Tineye...
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Spent a few hours today researching EXIF filtering. First some background...
We allow uploading from the following mobile browsers:
* iOS Safari 6 and 7
* Android browser 3 and 4
*
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*every day new copyright violations uploads on commons. It think such things
schould be fixed in weeks but not months... for this
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now the bug is + one week open. Status report pleas?
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Comment 15 is the status. I don't see much use in spamming your favorite bug
reports on a regular basis with Hi Steinsplitter! No news here. comments.
In case you refered to
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Andre, this is not my favourite bug, it is a prio bug with every day new
upload... and you know: We can simply block mobile uploads or bot-delete
them...
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*every day new copyright violations uploads on commons. It think such things
schould be fixed in weeks but not months... for this reason my questions :)
and sorry for flooding
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90% of the phones are using exif. so i see no need.
new users (-5 edits), upload data from phone with no exif -- upload forbidden.
Autopatroller (etc.) excluded.
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Just to follow up from the mobile web team, we are going to be exploring the
possibility of filtering photo uploads based on missing EXIF data. We'll be
doing an assessment of
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Would anyone here like to be involved in the
requirement gathering for this? Thanks!
Yes :)
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I am appalled: The PAYED mobile team staff is ignoring the communety...
The Commons community is spending every day hours to delete the mobile
uploads...
Congratulations,
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Community say and mobile team has to drop every other task they're working on
Indeed. We can simply block mobile
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Hi this is Kenan. I'm the Product Manager for Mobile. We will be working on
this next iteration. Our plan is to provide some abuse filter like
functionality along with recommendations for
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Hi Kenan, great to see you commenting here and for the small introduction about
you.
Our plan is to provide some
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Prioritization and scheduling of this bug is tracked on Mingle card
https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/mobile/cards/1768
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@Andre Klapper: Copyright Violations in Wikipedia is LOW PRIO for the WMF?
Explanation please. :)
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@Andre Klapper: Copyright Violations in Wikipedia is LOW PRIO for the WMF?
Explanation please. :)
The mobile team does not use Bugzilla
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Prioritization and scheduling of this bug is tracked on Mingle card
Bugzilla not suitable for tracking mobile-related
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Prioritization and scheduling of this bug is tracked on Mingle card
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Can this be fixed as soon as possible? (Though off-topic images should handled
via DRs.)
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Max has already sent a mail to the mobile mailing list.
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mobile-l/2014-March/006637.html
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