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--- Comment #19 from Nemo_bis 2010-06-07 14:54:00
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> A filter might be a good idea though, given the revisiondelete items have
> there
> own log_action.
Bug 20839 has been created and then closed as duplicat
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--- Comment #16 from cenarium.sy...@gmail.com 2009-05-26 17:27:32 UTC ---
Many deletions are automatic, and the vast majority of them are not checked. We
generally trust our sysops, but we should still consider potential mistake and
abuse w
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--- Comment #15 from Mike.lifeguard 2009-05-21
17:51:32 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #14)
> I agree, that would be an improvement. But there are still logs with no
> target,
> and plenty of pages that are not heavily watched.
See bug 18
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--- Comment #14 from cenarium.sy...@gmail.com 2009-05-21 17:34:46 UTC ---
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> Internally, you have log_type and log_action. Currently, most log views are
> separated by log_type, not log_action. For example, log_acti
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--- Comment #13 from Mike.lifeguard 2009-05-21
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> (In reply to comment #9)
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> When mentioning the watchlist, I considered hidden log entries (not edits). If
> you hide an entry in the user creat
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--- Comment #11 from cenarium.sy...@gmail.com 2009-05-21 02:32:08 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #9)
When mentioning the watchlist, I considered hidden log entries (not edits). If
you hide an entry in the user creation log, it won't show up
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--- Comment #10 from FT2 2009-05-21 00:25:54 UTC ---
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> And again, log entries can also be hidden,
Not correct in terms of overall effect. Log entries cannot be hidden without an
entry in the suppression (ov
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--- Comment #9 from Mike.lifeguard 2009-05-20
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> As for visibility, of course if an admin hides a summary on ANI, it will be
> highly visible, but there are plenty of pages were this will not be so
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--- Comment #8 from cenarium.sy...@gmail.com 2009-05-20 22:45:24 UTC ---
A separation of the logs is justified from a technical point of view, as those
actions are of a completely different kind. It is justified for analysis and
statistics
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--- Comment #7 from FT2 2009-05-18 15:23:48 UTC ---
Actually - proposed that. It's got potential to help. See bug 18836.
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--- Comment #6 from FT2 2009-05-18 15:00:47 UTC ---
The main disadvantage of multiple logs is that you then have to search in
multiple places to track down what's gone on in any matter, as multiple tools
may have been used or have interact
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--- Comment #5 from Sam Korn 2009-05-18 09:14:41 UTC ---
FT2 is arguing that oversight of the use of this tool should be entirely
reactive. I disagree -- it should be possible to perform proactive oversight.
The argument about deletion-s
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--- Comment #4 from FT2 2009-05-18 09:06:36 UTC ---
Additional observation -- The logic you're suggesting also has a major flaw.
It's fine for full page deletion. But the delete log also has revision deletion
by normal admin delete (full d
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--- Comment #3 from FT2 2009-05-18 09:02:49 UTC ---
But removal of data (by any means) is only ever a problem if something is
hidden that shouldn't have been hidden, and something is only "hidden" (in this
sense) at a point where a user wo
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