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--- Comment #22 from Philippe Verdy 2011-09-02 09:00:08
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You've not understood. What is needed is NOT generating custom formats for
dates & time, but being able to generate a suitable HTMML text *with* its
markup, that allows a numeric
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--- Comment #23 from Philippe Verdy 2011-09-02 09:15:16
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Note that a client-side javascript does not even need access to user's
preferences to be stored on the server (so the user does not even need to be
logged on). The main reason is
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--- Comment #20 from Philippe Verdy 2010-11-05 17:16:53
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What I suggested remains valid: place the effective code that will be generated
in a protected template, even if this template will use some custom
parserfunction.
Not all wikis w
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--- Comment #19 from Platonides 2010-10-13 14:43:00 UTC
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A template with one hundred options is barely "simple".
It works as userland, but a parserfunction can do it better.
For instance:
function wfBug25746Function( $parser, $time = '' )
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--- Comment #18 from Philippe Verdy 2010-10-13 07:38:45
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(In reply to comment #17)
> After
> that you go on and talk about various possibly related things that bring
> nothing useful to this conversation. It annoys me a lot and it is de
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--- Comment #17 from Niklas Laxström 2010-10-13
07:11:52 UTC ---
I understand the problem and I also understand how MediaWiki works what makes
sense. Yet however you fail to consider my solution (perhaps you still
misunderstand it after many t
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--- Comment #16 from Philippe Verdy 2010-10-13 07:05:20
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(In reply to comment #14)
> (In reply to comment #12)
> > Because this is explicitly what for I started this thread. It HAS to depend
> > on
> > user's preferences, instead of si
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--- Comment #15 from Philippe Verdy 2010-10-13 06:55:45
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Note also that we already have the support for internationalizable templates
with the special "int:" namespace (whose value is stored in the "mediawiki:"
namespace. This is extens
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--- Comment #14 from Niklas Laxström 2010-10-13
06:42:58 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #12)
> Because this is explicitly what for I started this thread. It HAS to depend on
> user's preferences, instead of site's preferences like it is done now
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--- Comment #13 from Philippe Verdy 2010-10-13 06:37:28
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(In reply to comment #11)
> Why do you think it would suddenly depend on the writing user's preference
I have absolutely NOT said that, you have not understood or misread !
And
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--- Comment #12 from Philippe Verdy 2010-10-13 06:28:26
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"Why do you think it would suddenly depend on the writing user's preference...
?"
Because this is explicitly what for I started this thread. It HAS to depend on
user's preference
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--- Comment #11 from Niklas Laxström 2010-10-13
06:20:00 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #10)
> The signature preference os for the user signing the message. It has nothing
> to
> do with the format of the timestamp added after it, and that shou
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--- Comment #10 from Philippe Verdy 2010-10-13 05:57:46
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(In reply to comment #5)
> (In reply to comment #4)
> > Why should we make it available for templates when we can just as well
> > format
> > the time directly into users preferr
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--- Comment #9 from Philippe Verdy 2010-10-13 05:52:11 UTC
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(In reply to comment #4)
> Why should we make it available for templates when we can just as well format
> the time directly into users preferred time format (or the default for th
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--- Comment #8 from Niklas Laxström 2010-10-11
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Yes I meant a parser function. The thing is that parser function can access
user's preferred timezone preference while a template can not.
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--- Comment #6 from Niklas Laxström 2010-10-11
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> The signature is subst'ed into the saved wikitext, so its formatting is fixed
> from there on out.
That's the thing we are debating to change. However
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--- Comment #3 from Philippe Verdy 2010-10-10 04:14:59 UTC
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Note finally that some localized Wikimedia sites (including large ones) already
implement multiple rendering locales for the same language, such as Chinese.
Mediawiki's internal p
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--- Comment #2 from Philippe Verdy 2010-10-10 04:09:46 UTC
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Note also that this would be especially useful for Multilingual wikis (such as
Commons, but also localized Wikipedias that use multiple scripts with distinct
sets of digits such as
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--- Comment #1 from Philippe Verdy 2010-10-10 03:51:37 UTC
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Note that the default implementation of the proposed template (actually in the
mediawiki protected space) would just use the existing {{#timel:}}
ParserFunction for converting it,
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