Re: [Wikidata] Gender gap statistics

2019-01-23 Thread Jane Darnell
The Dutch chapter WMNL has budgetted surveys to check %female contributors and so far I believe we have measured 6%, 10% and 11% female (not all in that timeline order, sadly). According to WHIGI the dawiki %female biography ratio is higher than nlwiki by .1%. The nlwiki bio ratio for women is

Re: [Wikidata] VIAF date scraping errors

2018-08-28 Thread Jane Darnell
Yes I reached the same conclusion. In fact it's even worse than 1950, and many people have been given the incorrect birthdate of "1900" for the same reason. I have started going through women items with 1900-1-1 birthdates, correcting the birthdate where possible, and where impossible (e.g. simply

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata + Wikipedia outreach

2018-01-05 Thread Jane Darnell
let us know > before further work is done. None of us want to waste our time here if the > free digital labor is not welcome. > > - Erika > > > *Erika Herzog* > Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle>* > > On Fri, Jan 5

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata + Wikipedia outreach

2018-01-05 Thread Jane Darnell
Yes to exactly this part of your email: "Gerard and I thought we had consensus on this, but apparently not. We need to find some solution that will address all concerns." The rest of your email is irrelevant to using the property for "catalog" on person items on Wikidata when there is no catalog.

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata + Wikipedia outreach

2018-01-04 Thread Jane Darnell
Brill Lyle, It seems you have not reached consensus to use the catalog property in the way you have been doing, and your edits are now being reverted after not responding to various objections that can be seen in the links you have provided. If the "Black Lunch Table" catalog is published, either

Re: [Wikidata] Mix n Match question

2017-10-17 Thread Jane Darnell
I believe you should always add the whole set - if the ID's are on Wikidata, then they will sync if your id numbers and the property matches up. You need Magnus though for that. On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 11:19 PM, David Lowe wrote: > Magnus, or anyone else who may be able to

Re: [Wikidata] Deletion nomination of Template:Cite Q on English Wikipedia

2017-09-21 Thread Jane Darnell
Well I firmly believe most of the friction is just basic "not invented here" sentiments, which we have seen since Commons was started. Maybe there is some central page there that we can follow which is dealing with the same basic issues? As I recall one of the biggest problems in the beginning was

Re: [Wikidata] Which external identifiers are worth covering?

2017-09-08 Thread Jane Darnell
Interesting! I noticed that suddenly a lot more politicians were showing up in my queries - have you been adding the occupation=politician property? I believe politicians are severely underrepresented on Wikipedia projects (except for the top people in the news) so if you have good metadata, then

Re: [Wikidata] Which external identifiers are worth covering?

2017-09-08 Thread Jane Darnell
As a basic rule for "which external identifiers are worth covering", I would begin with any national identifiers we have for people (politicians, artists, writers, theologians, scientists, etc), then national identifiers for organizations (government-related, GNP-related businesses, nonprofits,

Re: [Wikidata] Linking to place with Wikipedia page but no Wikidata link

2017-09-07 Thread Jane Darnell
gt;> editors positively influence outcome quality, whereas higher numbers of >>> anonymous edits may hinder performance. Tenure and interest diversity >>> within groups also lead to higher quality. " >>> >>> https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.10

Re: [Wikidata] Linking to place with Wikipedia page but no Wikidata link

2017-09-02 Thread Jane Darnell
rs > create for automating tasks, yet almost one million edits per month are > still made by humans."* (VRANDEČIĆ, Denny et KRÖTZSCH, Markus. Wikidata: > a free collaborative knowledgebase. *Communications of the ACM*, 2014, > vol. 57, no 10, p. 78-85.) > > 2017-09-02 14:42 GMT+02:00

Re: [Wikidata] Linking to place with Wikipedia page but no Wikidata link

2017-09-02 Thread Jane Darnell
n Sep 2, 2017, at 7:47 AM, Jane Darnell <jane...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Your note really made me feel so sad. I try to motivate my Wikipedian > friends into doing more on Wikidata and each time they react the way you > did, with a sentence like "I imagined that

Re: [Wikidata] Linking to place with Wikipedia page but no Wikidata link

2017-09-02 Thread Jane Darnell
urn out to be short-lived makes total sense. So we will simply create >> the corresponding Wikidata entities manually in cases like this. >> >> -Osma >> >> >> Jane Darnell kirjoitti 01.09.2017 klo 16:36: >> >>> Checking the history of that page sho

Re: [Wikidata] Linking to place with Wikipedia page but no Wikidata link

2017-09-01 Thread Jane Darnell
>> Cheers >> Yaroslav >> >> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 4:59 PM, Ed Summers <e...@pobox.com> wrote: >> >>> So each language wikipedia does this on an ad-hoc basis? >>> >>> > On Sep 1, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Jane Darnell <jane...@gmail.com>

Re: [Wikidata] Linking to place with Wikipedia page but no Wikidata link

2017-09-01 Thread Jane Darnell
Checking the history of that page shows it was recently created. Not sure how the Finns do this but like the Dutch they probably have a bot that creates Wikidata items after a month or so has passed (this avoids creating items for things that get deleted through the "speedy delete" process). You

Re: [Wikidata] quickstatements invalid snak.

2017-08-11 Thread Jane Darnell
he New York Public Library**Specialist II, Photography > Collection* > > *Photographers' Identities Catalog <http://pic.nypl.org>* > > On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Jane Darnell <jane...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Well don't forget it's Wikimania and presumably

Re: [Wikidata] quickstatements invalid snak.

2017-08-10 Thread Jane Darnell
orked with the integer before that... Anyway, glad to be back to work! >> >> d >> >> >> *David Lowe | The New York Public Library**Specialist II, Photography >> Collection* >> >> *Photographers' Identities Catalog <http://pic.nypl.org>* >> >&g

Re: [Wikidata] quickstatements invalid snak.

2017-08-09 Thread Jane Darnell
nks, Jane. I'll try that again. > > d > > > *David Lowe | The New York Public Library**Specialist II, Photography > Collection* > > *Photographers' Identities Catalog <http://pic.nypl.org>* > > On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 2:04 PM, Jane Darnell <jane...@gmail.com&g

Re: [Wikidata] quickstatements invalid snak.

2017-08-09 Thread Jane Darnell
ll returned an error. > > David > > > *David Lowe | The New York Public Library**Specialist II, Photography > Collection* > > *Photographers' Identities Catalog <http://pic.nypl.org>* > > On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 1:44 PM, Jane Darnell <jane...@gmail.com> wrote

Re: [Wikidata] quickstatements invalid snak.

2017-08-09 Thread Jane Darnell
did you try it with quotes? Looks like your property is numeric, but I think this doesn't matter for quick statements input On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 1:22 PM, David Lowe wrote: > Sjoerd, > > No these are unique identifiers in Photographers' Identities Catalog >

Re: [Wikidata] [GLAM] CLs are hiring...

2017-07-03 Thread Jane Darnell
Great news! On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Erica Litrenta wrote: > Hey all, > as an update on this: > The Technical Collaboration team > is very happy > to welcome Sandra Fauconnier >

Re: [Wikidata] Which property to use for a Law that created an Item ?

2017-05-26 Thread Jane Darnell
Hence my suggestion of using the property for jurisdiction On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 8:00 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > It is not a law that created an item. That is imho a fallacy; it is always > one or another government body. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 26

Re: [Wikidata] Which property to use for a Law that created an Item ?

2017-05-26 Thread Jane Darnell
I think parks are like monuments, so you can also use jurisdiction with the law as reference with start date On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Thad Guidry wrote: > Thanks all... Looks like foundational text is most appropriate (besides > the reference URL for the inception

Re: [Wikidata] Significant change: new data type for tabular data files

2017-05-02 Thread Jane Darnell
might be valid in > isolation? (It is two valid propositions but from different worlds.) > > On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Jane Darnell <jane...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Interesting, thanks! I have been waiting for more developments on this >> since it was shown by User:TheDJ at

Re: [Wikidata] Significant change: new data type for tabular data files

2017-05-02 Thread Jane Darnell
Interesting, thanks! I have been waiting for more developments on this since it was shown by User:TheDJ at the developer's showcase in january (link here at 5 minutes in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2pR21imm9A) I was wondering if this could be used in the case of painting items being linked to

Re: [Wikidata] Wiki PageID

2017-04-24 Thread Jane Darnell
Though I agree Daniel with what you wrote about redirects, we do have a policy (I believe I have read this somewhere) that if you create a redirect in the case of two items about the same thing, then it should always be the older item number that survives (and the merge gadget is supposed to check

Re: [Wikidata] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Occupation of Women on WikiData

2017-03-08 Thread Jane Darnell
Yes I looked at this last fall and realized we need to do some cleanup on this. For the "Sum of all Paintings" project we have made sure that all women who have made a painting in one of the large painting collections has been given the occupation "painter". This is much more fuzzy for women

Re: [Wikidata] weekly summary #241

2016-12-26 Thread Jane Darnell
I like that painting query, but if I add a line to filter the sitelinks for paintings painted by women I get a very different picture: http://tinyurl.com/zjjsno4 On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Lydia Pintscher < lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > Hey everyone :) > > Happy holidays! >

Re: [Wikidata] Quick Statements Tool: How to add publication date of sources

2016-10-18 Thread Jane Darnell
Why the fixation on the publication date alone? Why not author etc? If you first add the source as an item, then you can put the author and publication date etc in the source item. When adding it as a source in a reference statement, it has the publication date in there implicitly. You can

Re: [Wikidata] Wikimedia Foundation directly funding Wikidata

2016-10-05 Thread Jane Darnell
Wow - nice birthday present! Happy Birthday Wikidata! On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Léa Lacroix wrote: > Hello folks, > > An information that you could find useful : since the beginning of > Wikidata, the project and the development team (led by Wikimedia Germany) >

Re: [Wikidata] wikiconvention & wikidata: thanks and a bug report

2016-08-26 Thread Jane Darnell
Hi Loic, I recently noticed that the history of software is severely underrepresented on Wikidata and there is very little interlinking going on at all, while many items are missing P31. I do think it would be useful to create a Wikidata: page to list the various types of software (OS, languages,

Re: [Wikidata] An attribute for "famous person"

2016-08-03 Thread Jane Darnell
Too bad, because it would be great for all sorts of project workflows! On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Stas Malyshev <smalys...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > Hi! > > On 8/2/16 11:36 PM, Jane Darnell wrote: > > Would page props also give me the creation date of the Wikipedia page

Re: [Wikidata] An attribute for "famous person"

2016-08-03 Thread Jane Darnell
Would page props also give me the creation date of the Wikipedia page in that specific sitelink? Because this is something I needed when analyzing the data for the TED speakers challenge. When running an international writing challenge for Wikipedia it would be nice to rune a daily or weekly count

Re: [Wikidata] Possibility of data lock

2016-06-10 Thread Jane Darnell
Yes I agree, so I guess I disagree with the idea of a "data lock". I do however, recognize the desire for a "data lock" which arises out of a personal frustration with good-faith Wikidata editor behavior. Many of these unnecessary edits & subsequent reversions on Wikidata could be avoided when a

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata and Wiktionary: an IEG proposal to build a database of etymological relationships based on Wiktionary and an associated visualization

2016-05-14 Thread Jane Darnell
Ester, This looks like a great idea and though I am a big fan of helpful maps as illustrations, generating a .png per word could be very burdensome. Could your software reside on Toollabs? I see uses for such visualizations with words on Wikidata, not only through the context of Wiktionary, but

Re: [Wikidata] Wikimedia Blog post: "TED is partnering with the Wikimedia community..."

2016-04-24 Thread Jane Darnell
Very interesting, thanks for posting! The TED dataset is also quite interesting for Wikidata, because we are missing the generic concepts behind many Wikipedia articles. Most people complain that Wikipedia tends to dive into indepth information without giving adequate coverage in an overview

Re: [Wikidata] Wikimedia Blog post: "TED is partnering with the Wikimedia community..."

2016-04-22 Thread Jane Darnell
Yes, and most of those 2000 talks are linked to items about TED speakers. We also have items for some of the larger TED events. More information about the breakdown in talks is here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:TED On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Markus Krötzsch <

Re: [Wikidata] Announcing COOL-WD: A Completeness Tool for Wikidata

2016-03-02 Thread Jane Darnell
se for COOL-WD! > > PS: Pardon the formatting of the announcement email, somehow the > linebreaks are vanished :( > I am now experimenting with another email client, hopefully the linebreaks > are there. > > Regards, > Fariz > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Jane Darnell

Re: [Wikidata] Announcing COOL-WD: A Completeness Tool for Wikidata

2016-03-02 Thread Jane Darnell
Wow this sounds great! I would love to use this for oeuvre catalogs of top painters! The latest Rembrandt catalog is complete on Wikidata, as well as a few other ones, but older ones are not yet complete. This could be a great tracking tool for WikiProjects. On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 10:17 AM,

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata Propbrowse

2016-02-14 Thread Jane Darnell
ons under "use" is a > very good idea! > > Markus > > On 14.02.2016 15:11, Jane Darnell wrote: > >> Wow Hay, this is super useful >> >> On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Hay (Husky) <hus...@gmail.com >> <mailto:hus...@gmail.com>>

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata Propbrowse

2016-02-14 Thread Jane Darnell
Wow Hay, this is super useful On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Hay (Husky) wrote: > Awesome, thanks! :) > > -- Hay > > On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 1:36 PM, Yuri Astrakhan > wrote: > > Well done! Absolutely love it! I'm already using it to build SPARQL >

Re: [Wikidata] counting gendered items for the gendergap project

2016-02-06 Thread Jane Darnell
My Socks are extremely MALE. (they have holes) :) > > Good question however, and one that extends beyond just clothing... > stores, brands, products, etc. > > Thad > +ThadGuidry <https://www.google.com/+ThadGuidry> > > On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Jane Darnell <j

[Wikidata] counting gendered items for the gendergap project

2016-02-06 Thread Jane Darnell
Is there any way to find out if a clothing item (dress, hat, shoes, etc) is gendered? Any ideas how to do this? Thanks in advance ___ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata

Re: [Wikidata] Looking for small Wikipedias to test a new feature

2016-01-20 Thread Jane Darnell
Lucie, that looks great! Will it work for paintings? If so I would be interested in using it for both the English Wikipedia and on Commons for use with catalogs of paintings. On English Wikipedia I provide a link to the Wikidata item for the painting, but I think directing the user to the article

Re: [Wikidata] Looking for small Wikipedias to test a new feature

2016-01-20 Thread Jane Darnell
t to enable it purely to > paintings or we just don't add it to the search and make it only > discoverable on the special page and in links? So there are certainly > possibilities! > > Cheers, > > Lucie > > 2016-01-20 16:46 GMT+01:00 Jane Darnell <jane...@gmail.com>: > >

Re: [Wikidata] [Spam] Re: Seasons Greetings and a call to action

2015-12-23 Thread Jane Darnell
kipedia does? > >> > >> For example, this article: > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Frost_House has a nice public > domain > >> photo that someone contributed back in 2010, but it's not referenced > from > >> Wikidata https://www.w

Re: [Wikidata] Seasons Greetings and a call to action

2015-12-23 Thread Jane Darnell
Yes I agree with what Stas says, which is why I posted my invitation. Also, we have many more items without images on Wikidata than Wikipedia articles with images, so we also need illustrations for things that don't have a page on Wikipedia yet such as everyday items (cookie types), minor

[Wikidata] Seasons Greetings and a call to action

2015-12-22 Thread Jane Darnell
Hi all, I cordially invite you to donate some time and add an image from Wikimedia Commons to Wikidata this year. For inspiration you may choose one of the recent Wiki Loves Monuments prize winning photos from your local competition being added to the Wikidata item about that monument, one of your

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata Analyst, a tool to comprehensively analyze quality of Wikidata

2015-12-08 Thread Jane Darnell
Very useful, Amir, thanks! I just ran it for occupation=painter (p=P106=Q1028181) Am I correct in my interpretation that in general painters have fewer claims than the entire population of items with the property occupation? On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 6:48 PM, Amir Ladsgroup

Re: [Wikidata] [Wiki-research-l] Quality issues

2015-11-21 Thread Jane Darnell
Sorry Thad, I am just a control freak who felt overwhelmed when I took my first steps on Wikidata. My apologies for assuming that most Wikipedians are like me. On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Thad Guidry <thadgui...@gmail.com> wrote: > Jane & all, > > On Sat, Nov 21, 20

Re: [Wikidata] [Wikimedia-l] Quality issues

2015-11-20 Thread Jane Darnell
Gerard, I think this was always the case. Most Wikidatans are as at home on Wikipedia as they are on Commons. The issue you describe also happened to Commons - both communities feel the other is less focussed on quality. Many Commonists spend hours on high quality images and these are rarely

Re: [Wikidata] Use-notes in item descriptions

2015-11-05 Thread Jane Darnell
Yes I have noticed this need for use notes, but it is specific to properties, isn't it? I see it in things such as choosing what to put in the "genre" property of an artwork. It would be nice to have some sort of pop-up that you can fill with more than what you put in. For example I get easily

Re: [Wikidata] Duplicate identifiers (redirects & non-redirects)

2015-10-01 Thread Jane Darnell
I agree with Tom on this. I would prefer to keep all of the redirects nd just deprecate them (especially for names of people, because hidden in the redirect is an alternate spelling that should be added as an alias to the label field) On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 6:55 PM, James Heald

Re: [Wikidata] Naming projects

2015-09-14 Thread Jane Darnell
sounds like a good title for a provenance tool to use on artworks from the WWII collection of the Führermuseum, since most of those seem to have ended up in the states anyway On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Magnus Manske wrote: > My next tool shall be called

Re: [Wikidata] Data from Netherlands Statistics / CBS on Wikidata?

2015-08-06 Thread Jane Darnell
I have used the CBS website to compile my own statistics for research. Their data is completely available online as far as I know and you can download the queries you run on the fly in .csv file format, or text or excel. They have various data tables depending on what you find interesting and

Re: [Wikidata] The MoMa, CSV, GitHub, and CC0

2015-08-02 Thread Jane Darnell
Most middle-sized towns in Europe have municipal collections that reach into the tens of thousands of objects. I am totally on board to allow this, and also to allow municipality WLM identifiers (so not just country identifiers for heritage, but also at the local level) Let's do it! On Sun, Aug

Re: [Wikidata] The MoMa, CSV, GitHub, and CC0

2015-08-02 Thread Jane Darnell
Yes I got the gist of that hint and am still thinking about it. I am still not sure, but probably yes. It's the same reasoning as for the WLM unique identifiers btw. I am leaning towards at least one set of identifiers per country. We can think of these heritage sites after all as objects in the

Re: [Wikidata] property label/alias uniqueness

2015-07-13 Thread Jane Darnell
Me too. On the point of Wikipedia templates, I would like to remind you that templates are a dramatically confusing mess on Wikipedia, and lots of those unique, localized names do not lend themselves to reuse, which is why we have so many doubles and why the translation extension hasn't been able

Re: [Wikidata] property label/alias uniqueness

2015-07-12 Thread Jane Darnell
I agree and find the whole idea to be just ridiculously overly ambitious for all the reasons Gerard has mentioned. In fact, I have to always click on both QIDs and the PIDs in Wikidata just to make sure I have the proper one, so why would I not do that from Wikipedia while developing a template?

Re: [Wikidata] Update frequency on the Wikidata Query API

2015-06-19 Thread Jane Darnell
Wikidata is a wiki like any other, so you can just click What links here on Property:P351 and pick up all items that way On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 9:14 AM, Ricordisamoa ricordisa...@openmailbox.org wrote: Just ask WDQ for a list of item ids, then pass them to the live API

Re: [Wikidata] Import of redirects as aliases

2015-06-19 Thread Jane Darnell
Yes often whole families of people get redirected to a biography of one member of that family - automatic assumption that all redirects to an article refer to the subject of the article is wrong. Alternate spellings of names used to be in the persondata template, and that has now been

Re: [Wikidata] Orphaned items

2015-05-30 Thread Jane Darnell
Yaroslav thanks for posting - I had no idea. Thanks for your work on this too On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: On 2015-05-29 17:42, Markus Krötzsch wrote: Hi Jane, hi Romaine, I think we agree that valuable information should be kept if at all

Re: [Wikidata] Orphaned items

2015-05-29 Thread Jane Darnell
I think this is a problem with the current workflow for creating articles, which starts with Wikipedia, then finishes with Wikidata, though it should probably be the other way around. This problem will eventually solve itself, given enough time, although I believe we still have lots of poorly

Re: [Wikidata-l] next 2 rounds of arbitrary access coming up

2015-05-19 Thread Jane Darnell
This is great! I just ran through the whole 1001 Vrouwen list of the DVN hier: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Jane023/DVN It seems to work fine, but there are no links for anything but the article portion, so not quite as useful as the same functionality on the enwiki, but still way, WAY

Re: [Wikidata-l] next 2 rounds of arbitrary access coming up

2015-05-19 Thread Jane Darnell
...] On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 2:37 PM Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: This is great! I just ran through the whole 1001 Vrouwen list of the DVN hier: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Jane023/DVN It seems to work fine, but there are no links for anything but the article portion, so not quite

Re: [Wikidata-l] Merging items no longer possible

2015-05-18 Thread Jane Darnell
: there is an option Select for merging now which wasn't there before it broke yesterday. On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 5:08 AM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I no longer see the option to merge an item. Clicking

Re: [Wikidata-l] Merging items no longer possible

2015-05-18 Thread Jane Darnell
Solved, thanks! On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 5:08 AM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I no longer see the option to merge an item. Clicking on random items i see the star for watching an item, but no more tab for other options such as move or merge. Has this function been replaced

[Wikidata-l] Merging items no longer possible

2015-05-17 Thread Jane Darnell
Hi, I no longer see the option to merge an item. Clicking on random items i see the star for watching an item, but no more tab for other options such as move or merge. Has this function been replaced with some other method? ___ Wikidata-l mailing list

Re: [Wikidata-l] novalue in qualifiers or references

2015-04-26 Thread Jane Darnell
What about people who were born in the 18th-century? We know they are dead, but their death is not recorded and we only know when they were last active. How do you set that end date? On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Stas Malyshev smalys...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi! Actually I think that

Re: [Wikidata-l] items about data model concepts

2015-04-23 Thread Jane Darnell
So the intention is to use Q19798647 as a random place holder specifically for Wikibase entities without a value, but not as a no value placeholder for a person? I think it is useful in the way you describe it, but I am curious how you would model the source B saying that X had no child On Thu,

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data templates

2015-04-07 Thread Jane Darnell
For paintings you can better look here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_sum_of_all_paintings On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Valentine Charles valentine...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I wanted to get an overview of all the properties used boy the instance Painting

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data templates

2015-04-04 Thread Jane Darnell
The more I think about this issue, the more I think we need a separate animal altogether that sits between Wikidata and Wikipedia (or alongside it somehow) and that is a quick-ref simple mobile version that acts as a go-between to image data on Commons (or any other WM project). Right now

Re: [Wikidata-l] OWL based ontologies as basis for Wikidata item interactions and property proposal

2015-04-03 Thread Jane Darnell
Interesting approach, and one I would support. I have been against forcing Wikidata into any other jacket than one of its own knitting, but this approach makes OWL look like any other external database that may or may not come with properties worth integrating into Wikidata's jacket On Fri, Apr

Re: [Wikidata-l] weekly summary #148

2015-03-08 Thread Jane Darnell
Wikiskim is great! It's International Women's Day though, so maybe this link is better https://tools.wmflabs.org/hay/wdskim/index.php?prop=P170item=Q232423language=enwithimages=on On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: Hey folks :) Here's your

Re: [Wikidata-l] Update on data quality project

2015-02-20 Thread Jane Darnell
...@wikimedia.de wrote: On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: Lydia, Thanks. Is this the team responsible for the suggested properties? As a Wikidata user, how do I see their work exactly? Yes they are. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WikidataQuality is the best

Re: [Wikidata-l] Update on data quality project

2015-02-20 Thread Jane Darnell
Lydia, Thanks. Is this the team responsible for the suggested properties? As a Wikidata user, how do I see their work exactly? Jane On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: Hey folks :) The students team working on data quality is making good

Re: [Wikidata-l] Update on data quality project

2015-02-20 Thread Jane Darnell
Lydia, Thanks - I have used those suggestions tons of times and I have noticed the suggestions getting better. Great and useful work definitely! Jane On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Jane Darnell jane

Re: [Wikidata-l] Update on data quality project

2015-02-20 Thread Jane Darnell
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: Lydia, Thanks. Is this the team responsible for the suggested properties? As a Wikidata user, how do I see their work exactly

Re: [Wikidata-l] annotating red links

2015-02-12 Thread Jane Darnell
I'm thinking it should be a combination of syntax in the page, but also in the New Page create page. That page now directs you to the new Drafts userspace, but I think it should direct you also to Wikidata. That page says this now on enwiki: Before creating an article, please read Wikipedia:Your

Re: [Wikidata-l] annotating red links

2015-02-12 Thread Jane Darnell
Lydia, Good question! To answer your question, I have no idea. There have been no deletion discussions, but use of the template is limited at best. Here are few more ways I used it: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eerebegraafplaats_Bloemendaal

Re: [Wikidata-l] annotating red links

2015-02-12 Thread Jane Darnell
Amir, The most important thing to consider when you look at the burden to the community is the Bonnie Clyde problem where it gets to be the choice of a few editors (maybe just one?) on any given Wikipedia. I noticed that the English Wikipedia only has one article for both Q11629 the art of

Re: [Wikidata-l] annotating red links

2015-02-11 Thread Jane Darnell
Hi Amir, We created a template in the English Wikipedia for this and I used it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koekkoek I also just stumbled across this, which is also acceptable here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wauters The first method keeps the enwiki link red, which is what you want,

Re: [Wikidata-l] descriptions in mobile app

2015-02-09 Thread Jane Darnell
I assume Magnus is referring to cases where for example, an item exists because someone's biography has been added to the Esperanto Wikipedia as a leading esperantist, but whose actual claim to fame for other Wikipedias is quite different (e.g. the person was a poet in another language, a leading

Re: [Wikidata-l] Impossible to add interwiki links

2015-01-29 Thread Jane Darnell
+1 on collecting the click data! I for one would bet that the number of page creators in any given Wikipedia that know enough to even look at the left side of the page is quite small. In my experience, most page creators are unaware that Wikipedia exists in any language but their own On Thu, Jan

Re: [Wikidata-l] Impossible to add interwiki links

2015-01-29 Thread Jane Darnell
A link to Reasonator would be more useful probably, or at at least offering that as a choice along with the message no sitelinks found On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de wrote: Am 29.01.2015 um 02:05 schrieb Federico Leva (Nemo): This should be very

Re: [Wikidata-l] Impossible to add interwiki links

2015-01-29 Thread Jane Darnell
/ and @wikimediauk On 29 January 2015 at 14:23, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Fabian, I think your logic is flawed, as I believe most of the Welsh contributors probably also read the English Wikipedia. This will be true for many languages that are closely related, such as Dutch and Afrikaans

Re: [Wikidata-l] Impossible to add interwiki links

2015-01-29 Thread Jane Darnell
by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk On 29 January 2015 at 11:00, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: +1 on collecting the click data! I for one would bet that the number of page creators in any given

Re: [Wikidata-l] Example of Wikipedia infobox generated from Wikidata?

2015-01-18 Thread Jane Darnell
Magnus' tool called PrepBio will create a brief or extended biography infobox for use on the English Wikipedia. I would really like to see a PrepPlace tool developed that does the same thing for locations. http://tools.wmflabs.org/magnustools/prepbio.php On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 1:29 AM,

Re: [Wikidata-l] Conflict of Interest policy for Wikidata

2015-01-04 Thread Jane Darnell
I can't imagine anyone reading these mails who has never hit the edit button at least once on some random Wikimedia project. Could it possibly be entertaining otherwise? For the sorry few who need to read these mails for their work (whatever that may be), they have my sympathy. On Sun, Jan 4,

Re: [Wikidata-l] Conflict of Interest policy for Wikidata

2015-01-03 Thread Jane Darnell
Lydia, I believe you meant to say override, not overwrite. Freudian slip, but I found it rather funny (and could think of multiple instances where that might even be true). Jane 2015-01-03 12:46 GMT+01:00 Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de: On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Flaken

Re: [Wikidata-l] Queries related question : relationship beetween queries

2015-01-02 Thread Jane Darnell
Actually, I would posit that the inverse of that statement is true On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Thomas Douillard thomas.douill...@gmail.com wrote: Generated a grammatically correct same meaning sentence in all language in the planet automatically is way more difficult than finding a user

Re: [Wikidata-l] Queries related question : relationship beetween queries

2015-01-01 Thread Jane Darnell
be in the list of surrealist painters. 2014-12-30 14:41 GMT+01:00 Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com: I would suggest you are thinking from the wrong perspective. Think specific, and work your way from there. On the English Wikipedia, there are tons of lists which each have their own set of rules

Re: [Wikidata-l] Sitelinks to Redirects

2014-12-10 Thread Jane Darnell
Redirects are great! They belong locally though and should not be attempted cross-wiki On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, The only reason why Wikidata and Reasonator are not found is because this is not configured. yes you may think as you

Re: [Wikidata-l] weekly summary #130

2014-10-27 Thread Jane Darnell
Thanks! I really like seeing the q number in the global usage section on commons Sent from my iPad On Oct 27, 2014, at 5:24 PM, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: Hey folks :) Here is your weekly summary for the past week around Wikidata. Other Noteworthy Stuff The

Re: [Wikidata-l] Sitelinks to Redirects

2014-10-22 Thread Jane Darnell
OK Andy Gerard, cut it out! I like both of you, but we will never fix things this way. As you correctly point out Gerard, Wikipedians should spend more time adding labels and aliases to existing items and creating new items on Wikidata rather than just making redirects on Wikipedia. As you

Re: [Wikidata-l] Sitelinks to Redirects

2014-10-19 Thread Jane Darnell
No James, redirects do not have templates or categories. Back to the case of the African plum, I have created an English label for the Wikidata item, so that when I seach the English Wikipedia and choose the option everything, this Wikidata item will show up:

Re: [Wikidata-l] Sitelinks to Redirects

2014-10-17 Thread Jane Darnell
My comments inline: On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Joe Filceolaire filceola...@gmail.com wrote: Having sitelinks to redirects in my wikipedia makes it easier for other wikipedias to link to my wikipedia. No, it only makes it easy for other wikipedias to link to redirects in your wikipedia,

Re: [Wikidata-l] Sitelinks to Redirects

2014-10-16 Thread Jane Darnell
'). Allowing and encouraging sitelinks to redirect is the key to keeping a clean item structure on Wikidata, while still connecting readers to the most relevant pages in their preferred alternative languages. -- James. On 14/10/2014 21:00, Jane Darnell wrote: nope On Tue, Oct 14, 2014

Re: [Wikidata-l] Sitelinks to Redirects

2014-10-16 Thread Jane Darnell
are in en, cs, fr, es, it, pt, pl, da and others too. But when I want to find relevant articles, I must try each language separate. With alowed redirects, I find it. JAnD 2014-10-16 11:06 GMT+02:00 Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com: With a view to supporting mobile, why bundle concepts needlessly

Re: [Wikidata-l] Sitelinks to Redirects

2014-10-16 Thread Jane Darnell
and persistent. Joe On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: Redirects are indeed cheap on Wikipedia, and I have created tons of them on the English Wikipedia. I am a big fan of redirects, but only on Wikipedia. Redirects are not useful for Wikidatans or for Wikipedians

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