Re: [Wikimedia-l] Something

2016-01-07 Thread Milos Rancic
So Signpost discovered what is Something. (I didn't follow all the threads, but I suppose it's been written in some of them.) From my perspective and according to some anecdotal data I have, I would suggest WMF staff and C-level management to start talking with each other. I can confirm that at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-07 Thread Robert Fernandez
I understand the situation that Denny, Dariusz, Patricio, et al are in and I appreciate their attempts to address this issue. As a new member of the Arbitration Committee on the English Wikipedia, I've discovered that there is a great deal of anger about some of our decisions, and it is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-07 Thread Anthony Cole
Denny, regarding "I am regularly being told off with the false claim that my seat was bought by my employer - Google", I've never seen that absurd claim and certainly haven't made it myself. In a comment at The Signpost and here I've asserted that you have a fatal conflict of interest, being on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you, Jan-Bart and Stu

2016-01-07 Thread Jan-Bart de Vreede
Hi All, It has been an honour, this movement and its goals is one of the greatest things in the world and I am glad to be a part of it. The diversity of opinion is enormous which sometimes makes things hard, but at the same time that is one of our biggest strengths. I am grateful to have had

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing new Wikimedia Foundation Trustees

2016-01-07 Thread Andrew Green
Interesting to note Arnnon's role in the Silicon Valley anti-poaching affair: http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/27/2753701/no-poach-scandal-unredacted-steve-jobs-eric-schmidt-paul-otellini - Andrew On 06/01/16 04:39 PM, Florence Devouard wrote: Kelly and Aronnon, I will be happy to meet you in

[Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

2016-01-07 Thread
Dear Patricio Lorente, I request that the WMF board take immediate action to publish a comprehensive account of why you appointed Geshuri as a trustee, despite his direct involvement and being named as a defendant in the on-going scandal of anticompetitive agreements at Google, or that Geshuri

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Knight Foundation grant for search and discovery

2016-01-07 Thread Andreas Kolbe
The Knight Foundation's September 2015 announcement of the $250,000 grant[1] speaks of "supporting stage one development of the Knowledge Engine by Wikipedia". Could we have an explanation of what the other "stages" of this search engine project will be about? Could we see the grant application?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-07 Thread Denny Vrandecic
I got asked by a number of people to share my personal opinion, which is set out below, regarding the dismissal of James from the Board. This took me far longer to write than I hoped for, and it was very hard to write. I am not sure if this will change anyone’s mind - in fact, I am afraid that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-07 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 7:08 PM, Pete Forsyth wrote: > The English Wikipedia Signpost just published data from a recent staff > survey that shows extraordinarily low confidence in senior WMF > leadership;[1] and the WMF and Knight Foundations just published > information

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-07 Thread Tim Starling
On 07/01/16 06:44, Denny Vrandecic wrote: > -- James was not removed from the Board because he was demanding more > transparency. I'm inclined to believe James at this point, since he is the only one giving a credible explanation of causes. If he was not dismissed for this, then why was he

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-07 Thread SarahSV
On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 7:44 AM, Denny Vrandecic wrote: > I’ll tell you how I experienced it from my point of view: a few weeks ago, > I had to turn to the Board in a confidential and important matter for me. > And while writing my email, I felt that I probably should

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-07 Thread James Heilman
With respect to Denny's statement that I acted out of process, yes I spoke with staff at staff's request. However, so did the majority of the rest of the trustees. And the chair and vice chair were aware of these conversations. Additionally the situation in question justified these conversations

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-07 Thread Theo10011
Denny, there was very little substantive content in your email. As with the explanation from other trustees, this too, has the same markings of subterfuge and evasionary tactics. It has been established beyond doubt that there were "trust" issues. Repeating it or any variation thereof by another