Re: [Wikimedia-l] About the wiki-adoption process

David Cuenca, 17/07/2013 00:36: Thanks for pointing that out, I have seen that there is a proposed process https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_project_process#Adopting_an_existing_project_into_Wikimedia However it is not that clear what is the status of the SPCom... is it meant to become a user

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About the wiki-adoption process

David Cuenca, 16/07/2013 22:29: I've seen that there is a "new" Wiki Adoption Request [1] for WeRelate [2], a wonderful project that might help sourcing birth/death dates and hence copyright status. I was wondering if there should be a standard procedure for this kind of adoption requests. It is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Internal-l] 2013-2014 Round 1 FDC eligibility status & IRC office hours

Lodewijk, 16/07/2013 21:33: 2013/7/16 Lodewijk Maybe this has been asked elsewhere already, apologies in that case, but could someone clarify why the Wikimedia Foundation is not eligible any more (and did not seem to send a letter of intent) for the FDC process? Does this mean WMF will only do

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Internal-l] 2013-2014 Round 1 FDC eligibility status & IRC office hours

Samuel Klein, 16/07/2013 17:32: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Thehelpfulone wrote: Please could you explain why was this message only sent to Internal-l, given the discussions on this list in April about shutting down Internal-l? Hello THO, if you check the original message again - I belie

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

Erik Moeller, 15/07/2013 10:34: (Rumor has it that HR is soon going to introduce a new caring and loving penguin into the habitat. Perhaps the HR penguin can mediate should matters escalate quickly.) Scary. I think a copy of a recent statement on gun violence would also come handy.

[Wikimedia-l] WMF unclaimed Google Docs

I was wondering, does WMF still have access to Google Docs left without owners, e.g. created by or shared with employees who left (with the wikimedia.org Google Apps account, which gets disabled immediately it seems)? This may be the same as all documents ever created under the domain https://d

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What community initiatives have made an impact on editor engagement?

Tim Starling, 12/07/2013 01:14: Of course, the pt.wp community was well aware of the situation. I don't think so. Some community members were, but very few. It took 7 months to get a local discussion/vote on the matter start and conclude. Proceurally, the absence of consensus for the configura

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Advocacy Advisors] WMF response to PRISM?

Luis Villa, 09/07/2013 21:41: I discussed this a bit yesterday in the talk page and will flesh that out more, but the specific concern (raised here, on the blog, and in the talk page) is that stopwatching is too US-focused. [...] Have WMNYC and WMDC considered supporting it? It's unclear to me

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2013-14 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

Tilman Bayer, 09/07/2013 07:00: Hi all, the Wikimedia Foundation's 2013-14 Annual Plan has just been published at https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:2013-2014_WMF_Plan_As_Published.pdf accompanied by a Q&A: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/2013-2014_Annual_Plan_Questions_and_Answer

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Tech/Product] Engineering/Product org structure

Answer came in the annual plan: «Product and Engineering will be split into two departments, to bring additional leadership strength to the organization and to rebalance the senior team so one person doesn’t need to represent both disciplines. We will invest further staffing resources in both are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What community initiatives have made an impact on editor engagement?

Asaf Bartov, 06/07/2013 23:51: To be precise, the facts do not show that. They show the CAPTCHA is responsible for significantly fewer good-faith contributions from casual editors. That is is or is not a "bad idea", however, is a subjective judgment, based on one's weighing of multiple factors.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What community initiatives have made an impact on editor engagement?

Denny Vrandečić, 05/07/2013 17:42: Wait - removing the captchas lead to a decrease of reverted edits in terms of absolute numbers? Woot? Anyone has an explanation for that? No, sorry if I was misleading: decrease in relative numbers only. :) The tables are fairly readable even if you don't know

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [VereinAT-l] On now: European Dialog on Internet Governance

Manuel Schneider, 22/06/2013 10:46: Are there any chapters which are ISOC members? I only heard once about WMIL cooperating with ISOC IL so far. Frieda gave a talk at the Italian IGF in 2009, then I think they lost momentum (or we did?).

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What community initiatives have made an impact on editor engagement?

The recent community initiative with the highest impact I can think of is surely what Platonides and other members of the global (technical) community did on pt.wiki. Platonides noticed a configuration error on pt.wiki: CAPTCHA was required for all edits since 2008. The error was fixed in April

[Wikimedia-l] Situation of fundamental rights in Hungary

EU parliament approved a very concerned report about fundamental rights in Hungary. Is the Hungarian community concerned? For instance this passage hints at a situation similar to the one of the "DDL amma

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's report and learn from non-successes (more often)

Thanks. The problem of the blog post is IMHO that it's unclear what audience it's directed to. The learnings and suggestions *might* be useful for some en.wiki WikiProjects, but en.wiki is obviously the least suitable wiki for such experiments. There are no learnings for other projects and I s

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [tangential] Why voting is evil

David Gerard, 01/07/2013 12:38: tl;dr: voting creates winners and losers, and losers are unhappy and disengage. Right; to be added to the list of reasons why ranked voting like Schulze was better than the last antagonistic support/oppose for WMF board elections (which also adds incentives to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Legal victory for Wikipedia in Italy

Use <https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use> and Legal Policies <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal_and_Community_Advocacy/Legal_Policies#Responsibility_for_Edits_and_Contributions>. Best, Michelle On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: Does this help chapters and oth

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Legal victory for Wikipedia in Italy

Does this help chapters and other volunteers sued for their alleged (potential) responsibility over the content? Of course I'm thinking of the 20 millions € trial against Frieda on behalf of WMIT. Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.w

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What community initiatives have made an impact on editor engagement?

Steven Walling, 23/06/2013 01:34: One obvious example that comes to mind is Wiki Loves Monuments. Others are the Wikipedia Challenge in Kiswahili and Setswana, and edit-a-thons, such as this year's fashion edit-a-thon put together by Wikimedia Sverige. What am I missing from this list? I don't

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in jail!

Jane Darnell, 19/06/2013 10:37: The problem with static offline versions of Wikipedia is that it doesn't allow any interaction at all, so you are virtually cutting off the ability of the reader to become an editor. I am sure many people will feel that prisoners probably don't have a lot of positi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

Per A.J. Andersson, 18/06/2013 18:05: Many thanks for the resumé. I thought it would be like this, as I've followed the development of the different wikipedias (content and key factors) since 2008. BTW, is there a (searchable) list archive? http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

Anders Wennersten, 18/06/2013 09:00: I am happy to see that you, as well as Hubertl, is happy to go on as you always have done. I do not have the ambition to change your view on life, [...] To clarify, my view on life didn't include any item about bot article creation last time I checked. Ther

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

Hubertl, 18/06/2013 07:00: Hi Johan, Anders Wennersten says: And as shown earlier we have learned that this actually helps recruting and keeping editors ??? It is difficult to draw conclusions about user behavior. The more difficult it is to say something about the behavior of persons, which a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in jail!

Charles Andrès, 17/06/2013 16:15: Wikipedia for prisoners – an unexpected partnership between a swiss prison and Wikimedia CH Following an initiative from Emmanuel Engelhart, with the support of Wikimedia CH CAO, Chantal Ebongué, since March 2013, prisoners who request can have an access to W

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

Article count milestones are nice! However, I remind those who were distracted in 2008 that article count is a largely irrelevant piece of our statistics since 2008; both stats.wikimedia.org and www.wikipedia.org (plus the other project portals) don't use it at all to "rank" projects, etc.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed

James Forrester, 12/05/2013 19:56: James Forrester, 12/05/2013 19:20: Sorry for the disruption to everyone's plans. If you have any questions, please do ask. Will you still make the lists and send out the notifications so that people can start planning? Yes. Any news on the notificati

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids

Victor Grigas, 05/05/2013 06:27: My partner and I just started a campaign on Indiegogo.com to raise funds to buy all remaining WikiReaders and distribute them to schools and kids in places that don't have internet at no charge to the schools and kids. The campaign is here: http://www.indiegogo.c

Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM

Fred Bauder, 12/06/2013 22:47: "We hack network backbones – like huge internet routers, basically – that give us access to the communications of hundreds of thousands of computers without having to hack every single one," http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/12/edward-snowden-us-extradition-

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funds Dissemination Committee first progress reports

Katy Love, 11/06/2013 22:52: [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Proposals/2012-2013_round1/Staff_summary/Progress_report_form/Q1 Funny: «WMF notes [stats]», «WMFR claims [stats]». Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikime

Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM

Benjamin Lees, 10/06/2013 08:13: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation/49712/focus=49727 is probably relevant (if what Domas said then is still true). While I'm not aware of privacy changing substantially, speaking of fantastic names, Kraken is going to change things a bit co

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New proposal for a wiki Project!

Kevin Behrens, 18/02/2013 17:33: Hello! I have started a proposal for a new wiki project: WikiLang (meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiLang). It is about endangered languages and language documentation/decipherment. It is a very important step in order to save our linguistic diversity which is ongoi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Welcome to Ken Snider, Wikimedia Operations

Erik Moeller, 06/06/2013 18:18: FYI :) Thanks for the forward, I take the opportunity to ask a small update that you probably refreshed during this search: what's the current status vs. the strategic goal for stabilising infrastructure, in terms of simple figures like uptime? Nemo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiData and WikiSpecies

Ziko van Dijk, 06/06/2013 15:00: I also think that it should not be seen as blasphemy when someone suggests to reconsider a Wikimedia project. (Remember Asaf's session in Milan.) Isn't Wikispecies not already redundant because in Wikipedia every species is notable anyway? What Wikipedia are you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata-l] large donation by Yandex

Lydia Pintscher, 06/06/2013 11:14: Hi everyone, I'm happy to let you know that Yandex, an internet company from Russia, made a donation of 15 Euro to Wikimedia Deutschland for further development of the core of Wikidata. It's great to see more companies stepping up in not only using Wikidata

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] [X-POST] Universal Language Selector(ULS) Deployment - Phase 1

shi zhao, 05/06/2013 22:07: Why ULS deployment all wikis? Does https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector/Design#Rationale answer your question? Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage logo

Mathieu Stumpf, 04/06/2013 11:24: Le 2013-06-04 10:00, Federico Leva (Nemo) a écrit : Peter Southwood, 03/06/2013 19:26: In case anyone was so misguided at to think that I object to WTO protecting their logo per se. That is NOT my point, and never was. My point is that the WTO logo and WV logo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage logo

Peter Southwood, 04/06/2013 11:31: I am not an expert on copyright of logos, which is why I ask the question. Howevr, I would have thought that a logo is described by the image, not by words. The premise is wrong; it's rather the opposite. (Personally I've only registered one trademark, but I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage logo

Peter Southwood, 03/06/2013 19:26: In case anyone was so misguided at to think that I object to WTO protecting their logo per se. That is NOT my point, and never was. My point is that the WTO logo and WV logo are not easily confused. I asked a simple question about what the specifics of the compl

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiData and WikiSpecies

Nikola Smolenski, 03/06/2013 11:44: What if this interface would exist? I believe it could be made really quickly and easily. It's not about interface only, for instance the search backend is completely broken and useless for Wikidata, AFAICS. From what I understand, the interface for Wikidata

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiData and WikiSpecies

Ting Chen, 03/06/2013 11:29: I happened to worked with a few biology interwikis on WikiData today and saw the taxnomical data on it. Given that WikiData is growing and more potential would not it be a good idea to merge WikiSpecies data into WikiData Yes, and close WikiSpecies (hope now there

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Structured Data

Adam Baso, 31/05/2013 20:39: http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2013/05/getting-started-with-structured-data.html I've tried the helper but I didn't find many tags of use (they already know that stuff about Wikipedia). However, some of those schema.org tags (like "Article") could be a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage logo

Peter Southwood, 02/06/2013 07:43: So we stand up to small bullies, by not to big ones. Nice to know where the line is drawn when it comes to principles. Why would you want to share visual identity with a bully? Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wik

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [WikimediaMobile] Wikipedia Zero in Google search result

I don't know if there's a general bug report about canonical URLs & co. indexing, but there's one about Google messing up with 301/302 redirects which is spreading quite a bit lately. Erik wrote them to no avail some time ago. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26115 Nemo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts on Admin Rights on WMF Wiki (and other things)

Deryck Chan, 26/05/2013 11:27: In contrast to my post in the original thread (that I'm sceptical about how long WMF wiki will survive without volunteer admins), I do think the WMF is allowed their own piece of turf. In general, when there's an "owner" of a WMF-hosted wiki, we generally allow the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts on Admin Rights on WMF Wiki (and other things)

Steve Zhang, 26/05/2013 09:08: Gayle explained her reasons in the email she sent to this list around 3 days ago, [...] Ah. I didn't notice, can you please quote the relevant passage[s]? Maybe I missed some, it was a very long message and its purpose didn't seem to explain reasons for the acti

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts on Admin Rights on WMF Wiki (and other things)

I can agree with the rest but this is interesting: Steve Zhang, 26/05/2013 08:42: [...] Now, the removal of adminship of volunteer editors on the WMF wiki (among other changes) happened for a reason, [...] really? What reason? I've not yet heard an explanation other than "it's our wiki and we

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts on Admin Rights on WMF Wiki (and other things)

Just in case someone wonders, Gayle Karen Young, 23/05/2013 06:22: [...] goal was to ensure that the function of a wiki adminstrator, which is often identified with community self-governance, is clearly mapped against the governance model of the site: [...] [...] doesn't answers the questions

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Train Wikiexpedition in Poland

Matthew Roth, 23/05/2013 19:45: Tomasz just published a post on the Wikimedia blog about this: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/05/23/wikimedia-train-expedition-poland/ Feel free to retweet and share it, if you're into the social networks: https://twitter.com/Wikimedia/status/337595719265439745 ht

Re: [Wikimedia-l] making tech journalism easier to read

Quim Gil, 22/05/2013 18:48: [...] We can probably add "The Microblogging Sharing Test" to our headlines. :) [...] I believe this is one of the methods used by the fundraising team (unless I'm confused by someone else's campaign; perhaps the German anti-AFTA campaign). Nemo _

Re: [Wikimedia-l] making tech journalism easier to read

Quim Gil, 21/05/2013 23:15: [...] Good journalism is mostly about a lead paragraph for the masses followed by an increasingly dense body text (aka the 5 Ws and the inverted pyramid). You can adapt and change these rules at will, as long as you are aware of them. Paying more editorial attention t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

Erik Moeller, 24/04/2013 08:29: [...] Could open source MT be such a strategic investment? I don't know, but I'd like to at least raise the question. I think the alternative will be, for the foreseeable future, to accept that this piece of technology will be proprietary, and to rely on goodwill f

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New design for the list info page?

MZMcBride, 21/05/2013 04:22: Quim Gil wrote: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-announce Feedback, please. I would love to see this design or something similar become the default for Wikimedia's mailing lists. Compared to the current default,[1] I find the new design vastly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Report concerning appeal (FDC round 2)

I'm gonna cry. I'm glad to see that the board finds this report useful... as for me, I finally read the grant's pages and found them a perfect recipe for disaster: especially the talk page . A poem

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Exit Interview - Sue

Dan Rosenthal, 17/05/2013 07:32: Is there any thought or discussion as to whether Sue could (or would want to) additionally do an actual Reddit IAmA, as Jorm did? Don't get me wrong, I understand why it is on Meta and I think the Meta interview is a great idea, but there is also something to be s

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliations Committee 2012 Annual Report

Gregory Varnum, 12/05/2013 19:47: Nemo, I'm not sure what you mean by a single person's POV. Are you referring to Stephen? No. It doesn't matter who that is. While it is true that WMF Legal did the final writing of some guidelines - a few points: 1. They are guidelines - and AffCom has f

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moving forward: a proposal (Re: Community/WMF)

FT2, 13/05/2013 01:59: [...] This is not at all the first time of clumsy handling, or conflicting actions and perceptions, leading to tensions and drama between the editing community and foundation. [...] I don't know if that's the actual problem, I would like the outcome to be a *living doc

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Patience

Michael, can you please copy this as is on Meta? [[Patience]] will be a nice complement to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Eventualism Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/l

[Wikimedia-l] 108 Wikipedias had their logo updated

As you may remember, in 2010 the Wikipedia puzzle logo was updated: The localisation and update of logos has always been a volunteer-driven effort, organised mostly by Casey at the time. Building on his work,[1] in the last 6 months over 100 Wik

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board candidates page: please set as a subject of translation

Deryck Chan, 14/05/2013 19:10: Hello. Meta now supports automatic conversion between different regional variants of standard Chinese. Can someone disable translation to zh-hans, zh-hant, zh-hk, and zh-tw? Otherwise we'll end up with 4 redundant translations. That's https://bugzilla.wikimedia.or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

Philippe Beaudette, 13/05/2013 11:21: I actually was, Florence :-) Let's see... First (registered user, non deleted) edit 28 May... so not 7 years yet? ;-) And of course answering on day counts is a very constructive way to address Florence'

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

Casey Brown, 13/05/2013 07:05: [...] [Note that I'm speaking generally -- I personally think Gayle can handle criticism and she seems very nice. She also probably had no idea this would create dramz. My comment is directed towards the general "omg think of the staff member!" response to criticism

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

MZMcBride, 12/05/2013 22:45: Why did you feel compelled to act here when it wasn't your decision? Was there something preventing Gayle from doing this herself? Be honest, if Gayle had done this herself you would have said that maybe she hadn't read the documentation on Special:UserRights caref

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

Philippe Beaudette, 12/05/2013 22:23: [...] You want an explanation? I'm sure that Gayle will offer one. But for the umpteenth time, I was the person pushing the button because someone had to be. So lets leave my motivations out of this okay? I'm spending hundreds of hours per month fighting to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed

James Forrester, 12/05/2013 19:56: On 12 May 2013 10:40, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: James Forrester, 12/05/2013 19:20: Sorry for the disruption to everyone's plans. If you have any questions, please do ask. Will you still make the lists and send out the notifications so that p

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

Thehelpfulone, 12/05/2013 20:58: For what it's worth, I did try to get some re-translation organised in early February: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Translation_requests/WMF and asked communications staff at the WMF for their input. To be fair to them they did say that they'd look into it and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed

James Forrester, 12/05/2013 19:20: Sorry for the disruption to everyone's plans. If you have any questions, please do ask. Will you still make the lists and send out the notifications so that people can start planning? Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliations Committee 2012 Annual Report

Bence Damokos, 11/05/2013 15:13: Yes, to be fair, since the closing of the report, we had made some progress on this issue (e.g. we've had some user group name templates pre-approved[1] during a meeting in Milan with Stephen from the legal team and had clarified the process and responsibilities f

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

K. Peachey, 11/05/2013 16:59: On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 12:56 AM, Leslie Carr wrote: ... As someone tasked with protecting the servers,ssh keys should be restricted as much as possible, both with staff and volunteers. that is technical and not political. That same argument can also be used for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliations Committee 2012 Annual Report

phoebe ayers, 01/05/2013 21:54: Dear Bence and all, This is a very good report! It is very clear, just the right length and gives a good picture of all of the activity of the committee -- both accomplishments and frustrations. AffComm did a lot in 2012! Thank you very much for all of your and th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ting's resignation, Thank you for five great years

Someone has to break silence ;) so let me say that I'm quite disappointed that a community elected board member resigned in a way that rushed the board into changing the bylaws with little thought about quorums and required majorities, making them even more exposed to dramatic changes in contro

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The world's most efficient charity?

Chris Keating, 07/05/2013 18:28: These figures are literally unbelievably good, and I hope we see nothing similar in the Wikimedia movement in the future. That seems a rather standard example of semi-empty container entity whose (administrative) costs are on some other orgs' shoulders and whic

Re: [Wikimedia-l] UK.Gov passes Instagram Act

Fae, 02/05/2013 09:20: On 2 May 2013 07:54, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: ... If that's it, the law is completely useless, it just parrots general EU regulations. The big question in Europe is what qualifies as a "diligent search": I don't know if as usual UK wants to decid

Re: [Wikimedia-l] UK.Gov passes Instagram Act

David Gerard, 02/05/2013 08:35: As usual, Orlowski is trolling for clicks. Here's the actual text: http://niaccurshi.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/orphan-works-enterprise-and-regulatory.html If that's it, the law is completely useless, it just parrots general EU regulations. The big question in Euro

Re: [Wikimedia-l] censorship in the german mailing list

Complaining about blocks on mailing lists is rarely useful for anything but taking something out of your chest, I suggest you complain on Meta if you really need... oh wait, you're indef-blocked for harassment, too bad. Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Comments on compliance and the FDC Round 2 decisions

Dariusz Jemielniak, 30/04/2013 11:34: 1.5. In summary, I must protest against the narrative of Deryck's letter, wherein WMHK's proposal was rejected by malevolent WMF staff with a secret anti-WMHK agenda [...] I didn't read anything like that in Deryck's letter. well, I think that this par

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Comments on compliance and the FDC Round 2 decisions

Just a couple personal points: Asaf Bartov, 30/04/2013 05:04: [...] 1.5. In summary, I must protest against the narrative of Deryck's letter, wherein WMHK's proposal was rejected by malevolent WMF staff with a secret anti-WMHK agenda [...] I didn't read anything like that in Deryck's letter.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed

David Richfield, 30/04/2013 10:50: James answered this in his original email: No, that doesn't answer (see also talk page). Nemo It will now only be possible for accounts to be renamed globally; the RenameUser tool will no longer work on a local basis - since all accounts must be globall

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

David Gerard, 29/04/2013 11:16: On 29 April 2013 09:33, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: It's very clear (to me) that the WMF grants system is not designed to make Wikimedia entities grow, but only to reinforce those which are already strong enough, keeping them at the same level they&

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal to use the internal wiki more

Oliver Keyes, 29/04/2013 05:24: "No reason to" is not a reason not to, so your "yes" means "no" given my question. (And also by analogy, because most people in officewiki won't have a use case for that stuff either.) When the information contains personal data, it is totally a reason

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

Deryck Chan, 29/04/2013 00:52: [...] At this point, I believe it's an appropriate time for me to announce my resignation and retirement from all my official Wikimedia roles - as Administrative Assistant and WCA Council Member of WMHK. [...] Thanks Deryck for your commitment. I'm very sorry that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Accommodation best practices

Maarten Dammers, 28/04/2013 11:58: Last year after the Berlin Hackathon I sent an email to internal-l about the accommodation. The text I sent was quite sharp to get a response. A lot of people replied to the email and it contained a lot of useful opinions. The discussion was quite heated at some

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: Jan Eissfeldt joins Wikimedia Foundation as Community Advocate

Jan Eissfeldt, 28/04/2013 11:23: The annual plan 2012-13, published a couple of months after the announcement mid 2012, provided more explicitation [...] I remember that passage very well, I know that these positions have been announced a long time ago; I specifically asked documentation of «T

Re: [Wikimedia-l] volunteers who don't know about opportunities

Sumana Harihareswara, 24/02/2013 16:07: [...] I don't know the answer. Like Josh, I don't know how well our publicity about these things is penetrating our volunteer communities, and I don't know what level of penetration I would be satisfied with. I suspect that others have better answers rega

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal to use the internal wiki more

The problem of internal communication came up again at WMCON, but only about internal-l, see the couple quick opinions expressed: Oliver Keyes, 11/04/201

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: Jan Eissfeldt joins Wikimedia Foundation as Community Advocate

Philippe Beaudette, 28/04/2013 06:48: Yep. Meta. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal_and_Community_Advocacy/LCA_Announcement I don't remember reading anything like that in that page, and checking again I find only something about "community advisory board"... confusion increases. Nemo __

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia CH staff changes in 2013

Thomas Dalton, 10/04/2013 18:05: According to the UK Charity Commission we are in the case where Ilario " has had no significant involvement with the trustees’ decision to create or retain the post, or with any material aspect of the recruitment process" It isn't written very clearly, but fro

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMIL new Executive Director

Itzik Edri, 09/04/2013 21:58: Meet Dorit Shafir Dyamant: Over the last decade she mainly worked at NGO's in a variety of roles: from marketing through projects management and producing conferences. She have MA degree in nonprofit management from the Hebrew University in Jerusalem and B.A in lit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New design for the list info page?

Thehelpfulone, 17/04/2013 22:30: Last week I noticed a nice design for the list info page of the WLM-US mailing list that I tweaked for this mailing list: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/cabal-l I don't quite get the point of this style, is it about adding the Wikimedia vision in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: Jan Eissfeldt joins Wikimedia Foundation as Community Advocate

Philippe Beaudette, 25/04/2013 22:39: The community advocacy team, you may recall, is an attempt to shore up the Foundation's knowledge of non-English speaking projects [...] Never heard this claim before, is it documented anywhere? Nemo ___ Wikime

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board & FDC elections?

Nathan, 27/04/2013 21:34: I would go the other way, and limit the participants in the election for the community seat to people who are members of the volunteer community. Presumably that would include most members of most organizational boards, but only include those staff and other paid workers

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikidata Stubs: Threat or Menace?

Jane Darnell, 26/04/2013 08:52: Perhaps you could just imitate the QRpedia model, which says, this article is not available in your default language, and serve up links to the languages it *IS* available in. This should definitely be done (as agreed in some Wikimania workshop a while ago) but

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Re: Wikipedia FYI

David Richfield, 25/04/2013 21:57: That's a good point: the activity of proofreading is inherently less likely to cause controversy than the activity of building a neutral, comprehensive encyclopedia, so it's probably naturally likely to attract people who are less inclined to argue, and the topi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

Erik Moeller, 24/04/2013 10:06: [...] Moreover, the lens of project/domain name is a very arbitrary one to define vertically focused efforts. A good and interesting reasoning here. Indeed something to keep in mind, but which adds problems. There are specialized efforts within Wikipedia that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

A few links: * 2010 discussion: https://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposal:Free_Translation_Memory as one of the https://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_things_that_need_to_be_free (follow links, including) * http://www.apertium.org : was used by translatewiki.net but isn't any longer h

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lack of community involvement in WMF budget planning

phoebe ayers, 23/04/2013 22:00: [...] I think it is clear that the community can provide valuable feedback, although any feedback just in itself should not be the purpose in its own, right? I guess it might be helpful to figure out what the point of feedback is, exactly. [...] Dariusz is r

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lack of community involvement in WMF budget planning

Steven Walling, 23/04/2013 17:58: I fully agree. My team, Editor Engagement Experiments, was one of the few submitted to the FDC for approval.[1] We got almost no substantive questions or comments on the Talk page or mailing lists from community members about our budget. [...] That the FDC pro

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Consultation opened for Bylaws change

Lodewijk, 23/04/2013 18:11: Thank you for taking this step! I am glad that the board now involves the community in its bylaw changing process. +1 What appears obvious in bylaws changes, never is. Vacancies, in particular, are among the trickiest matters to deal with in bylaws; I left a commen

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lack of community involvement in WMF budget planning

Tomasz W. Kozlowski, 22/04/2013 21:57: I had a look at the questions that were asked to you during the open meeting in Milan (), but I was unable to find any related to the budget issue. I confirm there was none, I noticed the l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Biggest Fake Conference in Computer Science

To be fair I think this thread is not OT: all Wikimedia projects should be checked in case any of those papers has been used as source somewhere. Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.or

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