Re: [Wikimedia-l] De-recognition of Wikimedia user groups in Brazil

I am very disappointed with this decision and announcement. Surely anyone who has read this notice must be thinking that Brazil is at war, in wreckage. But that is not true. Brazil has never produced so much positive impact in our movement as it has now. Both groups have extensively created

Re: [Wikimedia-l] De-recognition of Wikimedia user groups in Brazil

Hi Rodrigo, Eligibility for grants is determined by the Wikimedia Foundation's community resources department, rather than by the Affiliations Committee. I imagine that the Wikimedia Foundation may choose to take our decision into account when evaluating future grant proposals, but it's not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] De-recognition of Wikimedia user groups in Brazil

"Further, the specific individuals who served as the primary contacts for these user groups will be prohibited from serving as primary contacts for any user group application or existing user group for a period of one year." And grant requests? I am not privy to the conflict details, but it seems

Re: [Wikimedia-l] De-recognition of Wikimedia user groups in Brazil

Hi Kirill It makes sense to explain a little bit about the conflict management and the position of both sides to define why both groups have been derecognized. At the opposite this decision will give the feeling that, to attack a local Group, it will be sufficient to create another local Group

Re: [Wikimedia-l] De-recognition of Wikimedia user groups in Brazil

Extremely sad news. I can't comment on the fairness but it does seem like the best decision has been taken. Regards, Isaac On Apr 8, 2018 9:52 PM, "Lucas Teles" wrote: > That’s very unexpected. I actually have been trying to talk with WMF plenty > of times and waiting

Re: [Wikimedia-l] De-recognition of Wikimedia user groups in Brazil

Hi Kirill, Could you clarify what would be a path forward from this situation? For example, would you encourage someone to set up a new application for a user group in Brazil, if they have a good proposal (and/or proven commitment) for how to manage the collaboration with the whole Brazilian

Re: [Wikimedia-l] De-recognition of Wikimedia user groups in Brazil

Given Teles' insight I must admit *I was wrong* in using the adjective "fair", not so much right with "reasonable", while I expected something like this. My apologies. I may have an incomplete view of the situation but parties didn't deserve the same treatment. Vito 2018-04-08 21:32 GMT+02:00

Re: [Wikimedia-l] De-recognition of Wikimedia user groups in Brazil

I wonder if we could turn this to one learning pattern, from what went wrong at first place and what solution you propose to solve it. I think it would help a lot of projects if we could learn from each other's mistake. Mardetanha On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 1:22 AM, Lucas Teles

Re: [Wikimedia-l] De-recognition of Wikimedia user groups in Brazil

That’s very unexpected. I actually have been trying to talk with WMF plenty of times and waiting and waiting for a word from you. Though you probably received lots of emails from me and others, I don’t think I have a single email from you guys about this in my inbox I have literally implored you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] De-recognition of Wikimedia user groups in Brazil

Sad outcome though fair, reasonable and expected. I hope some new group will arise from these ruins. Vito 2018-04-08 20:19 GMT+02:00 Kirill Lokshin : > Hello everyone, > > Recognition as a Wikimedia movement affiliate — a chapter, thematic > organization, or user group

[Wikimedia-l] De-recognition of Wikimedia user groups in Brazil

Hello everyone, Recognition as a Wikimedia movement affiliate — a chapter, thematic organization, or user group — is a privilege that allows an independent group to officially use the Wikimedia trademarks to further the Wikimedia mission. To receive and maintain their status as recognized