Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation quarterly reviews for April-June 2015

2015-07-24 Thread Patrick Earley
Craig, You are right that the harassment issue needs more than gestures or unenforceable guidelines, and Community Engagement is working with community members on new ideas and approaches. The Friendly Spaces expectations are a beginning, not an end point; they are a first step to get the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation quarterly reviews for April-June 2015

2015-07-22 Thread Pine W
Thanks Katherine! Pine ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation quarterly reviews for April-June 2015

2015-07-21 Thread Katherine Maher
Hi Pine, Thanks for your questions regarding the Communications QR slides. Answers in-line below. On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: I appreciate the combined QRs. Questions and comments: 1. Will the friendly-space expectations (policy?) for grants spaces on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation quarterly reviews for April-June 2015

2015-07-20 Thread Craig Franklin
Indeed, as Kirill says, the grants process is owned by the WMF (albeit one hosted on Meta), not by the community, so I'm not sure why the Meta community needs to get involved. It actually seems to me that the foundation wiki would be a better home for processes like this so that community

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation quarterly reviews for April-June 2015

2015-07-20 Thread Pine W
I agree that if the grants discussions were on Foundation wiki that WMF staff would have more leeway to make decisions without going through the Board or community. It seems to me that Meta is a community project wiki that is governed by community leadership and community content moderation, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation quarterly reviews for April-June 2015

2015-07-20 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Pine, As you insist on such formality, can you imagine that it is a huge turn-off for others? The thing that troubles ME most, is that a friendly space policy is something that is so obvious in so many ways, that I cannot fathom what the objection could be and therefore what the added value is of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation quarterly reviews for April-June 2015

2015-07-20 Thread Pine W
Hi Gerard, The process for starting an RfC is relatively easy, and I'm generally willing to be the initiator of one. Likewise, board resolutions happen freqently, can be straightforward, and could take place to support a friendly space policy. If there isn't an RfC or board resolution or some

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation quarterly reviews for April-June 2015

2015-07-20 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: 2. CA says that there are ...a (legal-approved) list of... event banned users, a protocol for appearance (or threat of it) at events by banned users and that it will Supply to Conference Coordinators for events beginning in Q1

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation quarterly reviews for April-June 2015

2015-07-19 Thread Pine W
Hmm. It seems to me that having WMF create a policy for conduct that it imposes on non-WMF wikis would effectively be an office action https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Office_actions, and the policy for office actions doesn't seem to contemplate them being expanded in to general moderation of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation quarterly reviews for April-June 2015

2015-07-19 Thread James Alexander
How can you experiment and explore while going through processes like that? The policy already applied for the IdeaLab areas during inspire (including letting the community know beforehand). I think process for processes sake, especially on meta, does more harm then good. Sent from my iPhone

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation quarterly reviews for April-June 2015

2015-07-19 Thread Pine W
As well-intentioned as that policy was, I can't find that there was ever an authority (the Board or the community) who ratified the policy. It's well intentioned and it seems to me that it might very well pass an RfC. The Board or the community might agree to expand it to cover all grants name

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation quarterly reviews for April-June 2015

2015-07-19 Thread Kirill Lokshin
On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: 1. Will the friendly-space expectations (policy?) for grants spaces on Meta be proposed as an RfC on Meta? The documentation on the rollout plan doesn't mention and RfC. My understanding is that the right way to implement a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation quarterly reviews for April-June 2015

2015-07-19 Thread Dan Garry
On 19 July 2015 at 15:42, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: 11. I like the overall QR format, the notes on Meta, and their consolidation in to the format presented here. This makes it relatively easy to understand what's happening inside of WMF. The evolution of the QR process is very nice to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation quarterly reviews for April-June 2015

2015-07-19 Thread Pine W
I appreciate the combined QRs. Questions and comments: 1. Will the friendly-space expectations (policy?) for grants spaces on Meta be proposed as an RfC on Meta? The documentation on the rollout plan doesn't mention and RfC. My understanding is that the right way to implement a policy change like

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation quarterly reviews for April-June 2015

2015-07-17 Thread Anne Gomez
Hello all - just a small correction. Advancement is actually Fundraising + Partnerships, which presented alongside Fundraising Tech. Thanks, Anne On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Tilman Bayer tba...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi all, the Wikimedia Foundation's quarterly reviews of teams' work in

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation quarterly reviews for April-June 2015

2015-07-16 Thread Tilman Bayer
Hi all, the Wikimedia Foundation's quarterly reviews of teams' work in the past quarter (April-June 2015) took place last week. Minutes and slides for those meetings are now available: Community Engagement, Advancement (Fundraising and Fundraising Tech):