[Wikimedia-l] online survey invitation
Excuse me, could you please help me with my paper by filling out a questionnaire? I am currently doing a project about personality traits and knowledge sharing in Wikipedia. The survey will take about 5 min of your time. Link: http://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/1538439/Wikipedia-Survey-Personality I need about 200 respondents, so your little help counts A LOT to me and I would GREATLY appreciate it! Thank you so much in advance! PS: If something is unclear or difficult to understand (English is not my first language), please tell me. I will fix it immediately. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?
On 8.2.2014, at 13.51, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: I love this thread - it make me think of Matti Wuori in the movie The man without a past Heh :-) These days, I also miss Matti Wuori. :-'( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matti_Wuori - Teemu -- Teemu Leinonen http://teemuleinonen.fi +358 50 351 6796 Media Lab http://mlab.uiah.fi Aalto University School of Arts, Design and Architecture -- ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Kumusha Takes Wiki: announcing new WiC in Uganda
Great ! I forward the information to Erina. Indeed, I saw that these two guys were key points fostering an increase of edits on the Luganda version. Erina should only be back in Uganda in a month, but sharing of information by email could be nice as well. How long are your ambassadors staying in Uganda ? Flo On 09/02/14 09:50, Jan Ainali wrote: That is great news Florence! We have two Wikipedia ambassadors in Uganda right now (they actually had a workshop at the Makerere University yesterday). I will ask them to contact Erina, it might be valuable if they could share their experiences face to face. *Med vänliga hälsningar,Jan Ainali* Verksamhetschef, Wikimedia Sverige http://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huvudsida 0729 - 67 29 48 *Tänk dig en värld där varje människa har fri tillgång till mänsklighetens samlade kunskap. Det är det vi gör.* Bli medlem. http://blimedlem.wikimedia.se 2014-02-09 9:40 GMT+01:00 Florence Devouard anthe...@yahoo.com: Hello everyone I am very happy to announce that we just hired our Wikipedian in Community for our Kumusha Takes Wiki project in Uganda. Her name is Erina Mukuta Muhame. Born in 1988 in Jinga, Uganda, Erina Mukuta spent her first childhood years in a small village called kilembe and later moved to Kampala. Erina is married with Brian Muhame. She graduated with a Bachelor of Science in Surveying from Makerere University. She has since worked with a number of organizations including Ministry of Land Use and Housing and Uganda Wildlife Authority as a Land Surveyor and a GIS Analyst respectively. She will join the Wikimedia community under the user name Erinamukuta. It would be great if some of you could welcome Erina on her talk page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Erinamukuta -- Cyriac and Erina will now head to Cap Town for a month, to receive some training and start planning their activity in Ivory Coast and Uganda. They will actually join two other people, from Ethiopia and Malawi who will also be trained and will work within the Share Your Knowledge framework. More info about Kumusha here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Kumusha_Takes_Wiki/en#News Florence/Anthere ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] online survey invitation
Can you provide more information about this survey? Some of the questions feel really vague and context specific. There are some terms in there that appear to be aimed more for the researcher than the respondent ease in answering. On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:24 AM, zhuangziyun ziyun_zhu...@hotmail.comwrote: Excuse me, could you please help me with my paper by filling out a questionnaire? I am currently doing a project about personality traits and knowledge sharing in Wikipedia. The survey will take about 5 min of your time. Link: http://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/1538439/Wikipedia-Survey-Personality I need about 200 respondents, so your little help counts A LOT to me and I would GREATLY appreciate it! Thank you so much in advance! PS: If something is unclear or difficult to understand (English is not my first language), please tell me. I will fix it immediately. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- twitter: purplepopple ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Kumusha Takes Wiki: announcing new WiC in Uganda
Unfortunatly they will go back to Sweden on Sunday (that part of the project was only one month). However, our local project manager is still left, and he has a IEG grant [1] from WMF to setup a Wikipedia Center in Mbazzi which will continue during the year. They too should probably get in touch with each other. [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Mbazzi_Village_writes_Wikipedia *Med vänliga hälsningar,Jan Ainali* Verksamhetschef, Wikimedia Sverige http://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huvudsida 0729 - 67 29 48 *Tänk dig en värld där varje människa har fri tillgång till mänsklighetens samlade kunskap. Det är det vi gör.* Bli medlem. http://blimedlem.wikimedia.se 2014-02-10 Florence Devouard anthe...@yahoo.com: Great ! I forward the information to Erina. Indeed, I saw that these two guys were key points fostering an increase of edits on the Luganda version. Erina should only be back in Uganda in a month, but sharing of information by email could be nice as well. How long are your ambassadors staying in Uganda ? Flo On 09/02/14 09:50, Jan Ainali wrote: That is great news Florence! We have two Wikipedia ambassadors in Uganda right now (they actually had a workshop at the Makerere University yesterday). I will ask them to contact Erina, it might be valuable if they could share their experiences face to face. *Med vänliga hälsningar,Jan Ainali* Verksamhetschef, Wikimedia Sverige http://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/ Huvudsida 0729 - 67 29 48 *Tänk dig en värld där varje människa har fri tillgång till mänsklighetens samlade kunskap. Det är det vi gör.* Bli medlem. http://blimedlem.wikimedia.se 2014-02-09 9:40 GMT+01:00 Florence Devouard anthe...@yahoo.com: Hello everyone I am very happy to announce that we just hired our Wikipedian in Community for our Kumusha Takes Wiki project in Uganda. Her name is Erina Mukuta Muhame. Born in 1988 in Jinga, Uganda, Erina Mukuta spent her first childhood years in a small village called kilembe and later moved to Kampala. Erina is married with Brian Muhame. She graduated with a Bachelor of Science in Surveying from Makerere University. She has since worked with a number of organizations including Ministry of Land Use and Housing and Uganda Wildlife Authority as a Land Surveyor and a GIS Analyst respectively. She will join the Wikimedia community under the user name Erinamukuta. It would be great if some of you could welcome Erina on her talk page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Erinamukuta -- Cyriac and Erina will now head to Cap Town for a month, to receive some training and start planning their activity in Ivory Coast and Uganda. They will actually join two other people, from Ethiopia and Malawi who will also be trained and will work within the Share Your Knowledge framework. More info about Kumusha here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Kumusha_Takes_Wiki/en#News Florence/Anthere ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] online survey invitation
zhuangziyun Mon, 10 Feb 2014 08:24:14 Link: http://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/1538439/Wikipedia-Survey-Personality it is not mobile friendly I need about 200 respondents a rather small sample, hopefully you get much more! ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] WMCON14 - Registration closes in one week!
Dear Wikimedians, we would like to refer to our call for registration for the Wikimedia Conference from January 23, 2014. As we thoroughly hope that a lot of Wikimedians will come to Berlin to actively participate in the conference, please be kindly reminded to register until Monday, February 17, 2014. You have one week left! Please find the link to the registration here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2014/Registration All registered participants can be found here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2014/Participants Today we have 17 chapters/affiliations who are represented at the conference. To the remaining, please register within the next seven days. We would also love to see you at the conference. We are happy to announce that members of the WMF board, WMF staff, Affiliations Committee and the FDC have already registered. Please do not hesitate to reach out to us any time via wm...@wikimedia.de should you have any questions or comments. Best regards and see you soon in Berlin, Daniela Wenke Wikimedia Deutschland wm...@wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?
Yes, he would definitely have enjoyed this one 2014-02-10 9:51 GMT+01:00, Leinonen Teemu teemu.leino...@aalto.fi: On 8.2.2014, at 13.51, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: I love this thread - it make me think of Matti Wuori in the movie The man without a past Heh :-) These days, I also miss Matti Wuori. :-'( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matti_Wuori - Teemu -- Teemu Leinonen http://teemuleinonen.fi +358 50 351 6796 Media Lab http://mlab.uiah.fi Aalto University School of Arts, Design and Architecture -- ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMCON14 - Registration closes in one week!
Dear Wikimedians, Please allow me to add some information about the programme in addition to my colleague's email: The WMCON14 programme team (9 members from different chapters, plus 1 WMF and 1 WMDE staff member) has published the first outline of the conference programme a few weeks ago: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2014/Programme Thanks for all you comments and input so far! The team is currently busy with incorporating the feedback and will provide updates in the coming weeks. If you have further input or know a speaker who you think is an expert in one of the topics, please speak up (on the talk page or via wmcon-...@lists.wikimedia.de). Also, please note that there is a discussion about inviting affiliations-to-be going on, where your input is needed, too. We need a solution not only for this year, but as a general rule for future WMCONs, to avoid exchanging the same arguments year after year after year. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Conference_2014 Looking forward to your input and to seeing many of you in Berlin in April. Nicole On 10 February 2014 15:59, Wenke Storn wenke.st...@wikimedia.de wrote: Dear Wikimedians, we would like to refer to our call for registration for the Wikimedia Conference from January 23, 2014. As we thoroughly hope that a lot of Wikimedians will come to Berlin to actively participate in the conference, please be kindly reminded to register until Monday, February 17, 2014. You have one week left! Please find the link to the registration here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2014/Registration All registered participants can be found here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2014/Participants Today we have 17 chapters/affiliations who are represented at the conference. To the remaining, please register within the next seven days. We would also love to see you at the conference. We are happy to announce that members of the WMF board, WMF staff, Affiliations Committee and the FDC have already registered. Please do not hesitate to reach out to us any time via wm...@wikimedia.de should you have any questions or comments. Best regards and see you soon in Berlin, Daniela Wenke Wikimedia Deutschland wm...@wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Nicole Ebber Leiterin Internationales Head of International Affairs Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. +49 30 219158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] online survey invitation
Yes, if I may add: I find it difficult to say whether I am a trendsetter about the latest ideas, trends, and developments among my friends and acquaintances, because that may differ a lot from the subjects, and from the circles I belong to. Also, this all is so diverse that I tend to answer neutral to nearly all questions. I'm sorry. :-) Ziko Dr. Ziko van Dijk voorzitter / president Wikimedia Nederland Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht http://wikimedia.nl 2014-02-10 11:46 GMT+01:00 Gryllida gryll...@fastmail.fm: zhuangziyun Mon, 10 Feb 2014 08:24:14 Link: http://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/1538439/Wikipedia-Survey-Personality it is not mobile friendly I need about 200 respondents a rather small sample, hopefully you get much more! ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] RFC: UploadWizard — scale to sister projects
Hi all, Apologies for cross-posting; please read and share thoughts: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/UploadWizard:_scale_to_sister_projects Gryllida ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Board decisions on movement funding and approval issues
Hi all, I want to draw your attention to two Wikimedia Board of Trustees decisions that were recently published, regarding funds allocated to the FDC/Annual plan grant process and Board approval of chapter/thematic organization status. In a nutshell, the Board decided to allocate approximately the same amount of funding to the FDC for the next two years. The Board also decided that new organizations should first form as a user group and have two years of programmatic experience before being approved as a legally incorporated entity (either a chapter or thematic organization). The decisions are published in the meeting minutes here: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2013-11-24#Movement_roles There is also a FAQ on Meta: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles_FAQ You will notice these decisions are published in the minutes for the November meeting. We originally took these decisions at that meeting; however as the FAQ explains it took us some time to talk to community groups, clarify our wording and write the FAQ. Hopefully the FAQ will answer many of your questions about these decisions; however, if there are other questions please do ask them, here or on the meta talk page. Thank you! for the Board, Phoebe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board decisions on movement funding and approval issues
pheobe, concerning your motion to vote saying: wikimedia foundation grows, the affiliated organisations do not grow the affiliated organisations are recommended to seek other funding (which the foundation did try and did not succeed very well) i am disappointed personally by you. you as a person, you as an american, and you as a board member of the foundation. especially about your inability to grasp international cultural differences in terms of funding, fundraising. because trust is mentioned: the FAQ and the minutes are written by a lawyer now, who has maximum 300 wikipedia edits as his lifetime achievement. and for sure, the decision making process is also impressive nowadays: first somebody decides, then it is consulted with a couple of people (affcom, FDC), and the feedback is used only use it to phrase the FAQ about the decision. sometimes i think you people are from outer space ;) rupert. On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 6:33 AM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I want to draw your attention to two Wikimedia Board of Trustees decisions that were recently published, regarding funds allocated to the FDC/Annual plan grant process and Board approval of chapter/thematic organization status. In a nutshell, the Board decided to allocate approximately the same amount of funding to the FDC for the next two years. The Board also decided that new organizations should first form as a user group and have two years of programmatic experience before being approved as a legally incorporated entity (either a chapter or thematic organization). The decisions are published in the meeting minutes here: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2013-11-24#Movement_roles There is also a FAQ on Meta: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles_FAQ You will notice these decisions are published in the minutes for the November meeting. We originally took these decisions at that meeting; however as the FAQ explains it took us some time to talk to community groups, clarify our wording and write the FAQ. Hopefully the FAQ will answer many of your questions about these decisions; however, if there are other questions please do ask them, here or on the meta talk page. Thank you! for the Board, Phoebe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board decisions on movement funding and approval issues
phoebe ayers wrote: The decisions are published in the meeting minutes here: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2013-11-24#Movement_roles There is also a FAQ on Meta: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles_FAQ Thanks for putting this together. I made a few tweaks to the FAQ; it could still use more love (additional links, formatting cleanup, killing abbreviations, etc.). After reading through the FAQ, this part remains unclear to me: --- We expect to be capping the allocation for FDC Annual Plan funding at approximately its current amount, for the years 2014-15 and 2015-16. --- What is the current amount? (Is that a known figure?) And to be clear, does this Board decision include a cap on the Wikimedia Foundation's operating budget or is that considered a separate pool of money? I believe the total budget right now is somewhere around $45 million, but the Funds Dissemination Committee is only one piece of that pie, right? Or does all money flow through the FDC now? I think clarifying these two points in the FAQ might be helpful. MZMcBride ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board decisions on movement funding and approval issues
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:30 PM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.comwrote: pheobe, concerning your motion to vote saying: wikimedia foundation grows, the affiliated organisations do not grow the affiliated organisations are recommended to seek other funding (which the foundation did try and did not succeed very well) i am disappointed personally by you. you as a person, you as an american, and you as a board member of the foundation. especially about your inability to grasp international cultural differences in terms of funding, fundraising. I'm totally flummoxed by why you're disappointed given that I can't actually find the quote you're attributing to Phoebe in either the minutes or the FAQ, but you might want to try being less hyperbolic. because trust is mentioned: the FAQ and the minutes are written by a lawyer now, who has maximum 300 wikipedia edits as his lifetime achievement. and for sure, the decision making process is also impressive nowadays: first somebody decides, then it is consulted with a couple of people (affcom, FDC), and the feedback is used only use it to phrase the FAQ about the decision. sometimes i think you people are from outer space ;) Have you seen the detailed, word-for-word minutes from the meeting? If not, exactly how do you come to this evaluation of how the board reached this particular decision? I note that Phoebe came to the board at one point *as*a representative of the chapters - entities in the wider movement who are directly affected by this change. If you're suggesting that the POV of the wider movement didn't come into the decision, I'm disappointed in /you/ as an applier of Occam's razor; I consider it exceedingly improbable that Phoebe, of all people, would've relied on feedback only...to phrase the FAQ. Calm down and discuss it like a reasonable person...and, perhaps, try to avoid personal attacks, even with a wink at the end. People who base their pronoun display on the conventions in a made-up language probably shouldn't throw 'you people are from outer space' stones ;p. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board decisions on movement funding and approval issues
rupert THURNER wrote: i am disappointed personally by you. you as a person, you as an american, and you as a board member of the foundation. What about Phoebe as a woman? Or Phoebe as a librarian? Or as a brassratgirl? Horrors. Your unnecessary hyperbole aside, I see Phoebe's role as a Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees member as being a guardian and protector of the interests of the Wikimedia Foundation. Those interests may or may not align with those of Wikimedia or its chapters. It would help if you could extract portions of https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles_FAQ and make specific and substantive criticisms of pieces you disagree with. Broadly, if you or anyone else is having difficulty doing Wikimedia-related work (specifically securing funding), please feel free to bring it up on this mailing list. There are a number of ways to receive money from the Wikimedia Foundation, Wikimedia, or other non-profits, depending on the type of project you're working on and your needs. because trust is mentioned: the FAQ and the minutes are written by a lawyer now, who has maximum 300 wikipedia edits as his lifetime achievement. Sorry, but this seems to be nothing more than scurrilous stupidity. Say what you will about lawyers, but this particular lawyer has over 600 edits to the English Wikipedia and has (in conjunction with his bot) over 175,000 edits to the English Wikisource. Play nice, Rupert. MZMcBride ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board decisions on movement funding and approval issues
I think there needs to a basic rule of if you can get Max and I to disagree with you for the same reasons, you're probably in the wrong ;p On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:20 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: rupert THURNER wrote: i am disappointed personally by you. you as a person, you as an american, and you as a board member of the foundation. What about Phoebe as a woman? Or Phoebe as a librarian? Or as a brassratgirl? Horrors. Your unnecessary hyperbole aside, I see Phoebe's role as a Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees member as being a guardian and protector of the interests of the Wikimedia Foundation. Those interests may or may not align with those of Wikimedia or its chapters. It would help if you could extract portions of https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles_FAQ and make specific and substantive criticisms of pieces you disagree with. Broadly, if you or anyone else is having difficulty doing Wikimedia-related work (specifically securing funding), please feel free to bring it up on this mailing list. There are a number of ways to receive money from the Wikimedia Foundation, Wikimedia, or other non-profits, depending on the type of project you're working on and your needs. because trust is mentioned: the FAQ and the minutes are written by a lawyer now, who has maximum 300 wikipedia edits as his lifetime achievement. Sorry, but this seems to be nothing more than scurrilous stupidity. Say what you will about lawyers, but this particular lawyer has over 600 edits to the English Wikipedia and has (in conjunction with his bot) over 175,000 edits to the English Wikisource. Play nice, Rupert. MZMcBride ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board decisions on movement funding and approval issues
On 11/02/14 06:33, phoebe ayers wrote: I want to draw your attention to two Wikimedia Board of Trustees decisions that were recently published, regarding funds allocated to the FDC/Annual plan grant process and Board approval of chapter/thematic organization status. In a nutshell, the Board decided to allocate approximately the same amount of funding to the FDC for the next two years. Some chapters have asked to consider the possibility for multi-year funding, in order to make planning easier. The WMF indicated that it was something difficult to do since the funding of the whole movement is planned on an annual basis. Does it mean that this argument is now moot ? The Board also decided that new organizations should first form as a user group and have two years of programmatic experience before being approved as a legally incorporated entity (either a chapter or thematic organization). My first reaction to this: why is the WMF board pretending to be more and more a board overseeing the whole community ? I can understand concerns about new groups legally incorporating before they need to or are ready to, but this remains up to the groups to decide -- and one thing about which there is no doubt is that they will know better than the WMF board if they need to be incorporated and when (if only because they know they local legal landscape much better than the WMF does). It is indeed up to the WMF to decide the conditions a group must have achieved before being recognized as a chapter or thematic organization. However, this is an assessment at a given point in time. How the group actually got there should have no influence on the result. I see that the WMF ED suggested the change, and that it was not endorsed by the Affcom (which is interesting in itself). But why doesn't the community have a chance to comment on how it should organize itself ? So if you had asked the Swiss chapter, for example, we would have mentioned that a user group would be close to useless in our country. That would basically be a group of people having meetings in a restaurant once in a while, but it just does not exist as a group: it can not get access to grants (it can not even have a bank account, so any money received would be received by a single member in his own name -- making the user group useless), can not be granted trademark usage. This is why creating an association in Switzerland is an extremely light process: take 2 people, get them to write one page of bylaws and voilà, the association is incorporated and it can open a bank account. So long for becoming a chapter or thematic organization involves much more corporate overhead. Maybe the board's reasoning makes sense in the US, I don't know (I will not pretend that I know how people in other country should operate). It does not makes sense in Switzerland, and likely nor in other countries. But alas, this does not seem to be taken into account by the board when it takes decision. Frédéric ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board decisions on movement funding and approval issues
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:30 PM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.comwrote: pheobe, concerning your motion to vote saying: wikimedia foundation grows, the affiliated organisations do not grow the affiliated organisations are recommended to seek other funding (which the foundation did try and did not succeed very well) i am disappointed personally by you. you as a person, you as an american, and you as a board member of the foundation. especially about your inability to grasp international cultural differences in terms of funding, fundraising. I'm sorry you're disappointed in me. because trust is mentioned: the FAQ and the minutes are written by a lawyer now, who has maximum 300 wikipedia edits as his lifetime achievement. https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l Just so it's clear -- Stephen *posted* the FAQ and minutes for us -- he helps out the board by posting documents and taking minutes during the meeting -- but the decisions, and the FAQ, were written by members of the board in what I can promise was a highly collaborative process :) That said, I find it strange that you would accuse him of anything. Not that it matters, but in his free time he's been volunteering with Wikipedia events, coding and editing for years. Regardless, though, he was just doing his job here -- as requested *by the board*, and specifically by me -- so please lay off the criticism of him. I have nothing but respect for our ultra-hard-working LCA team. -- phoebe -- phoebe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
