Re: [Wikimedia-l] A personal note.

2014-05-28 Thread Wil Sinclair
As I mentioned to Sam, I have just one more thing to say here before I let you guys deliberate on whether to block me. I've been getting tons of private emails from people who say that they don't want to see me blocked, but that they are afraid to say that on the list, because they feel like they

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection and Harassment Policy

2014-05-28 Thread Molly White
Harassment: Has harassment been addressed in a comprehensive way on all sites, including all of the WP site? As an example, Wikipedia has had a problem with low and declining female participation for years, and the WMF has often stated that it would like to address it. Are women actively

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection and Harassment Policy

2014-05-28 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
Wil, On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote: Stepping in to add another aspect to both questions, as I think it might focus the discussion. Child Protection: Are children encouraged to use commons through any programs or outreach efforts of any kind? Who are you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocking Wil from this List

2014-05-28 Thread C. Scott Ananian
It seems to me that the community is going out of its way to accomodate Wil in the hope that we can salvage the life partner of our new ED as a productive contributor. --scott ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection and Harassment Policy

2014-05-28 Thread MZMcBride
I just want to chime in here that I really enjoyed reading Molly and John's recent posts in this thread. Simply fantastic posts. I also loved posts from Thomas, Erik, and Milos in other threads from the past day. I think this month of wikimedia-l has made me more appreciative of some of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection and Harassment Policy

2014-05-28 Thread Risker
On 28 May 2014 21:37, Molly White gorillawarfarewikipe...@gmail.com wrote: Harassment: Has harassment been addressed in a comprehensive way on all sites, including all of the WP site? As an example, Wikipedia has had a problem with low and declining female participation for years, and the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocking Wil from this List

2014-05-28 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 6:24 AM, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote: I'm starting a thread with the correct title, so that everyone knows that we're discussing whether I should be banned and for what reasons. Like Sam said in another thread, I doubt you would be blocked on this list, and there

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection and Harassment Policy

2014-05-28 Thread Wil Sinclair
What??? What talk page are you talking about? How in the world am I making an unsafe environment? Those are some *very* serious charges. I'm really just stunned. *No wonder people are afraid to post here!* ,Wil On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 May

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection and Harassment Policy

2014-05-28 Thread Newyorkbrad
Wil: Please take this particular aspect of the discussion offline without further postings about it. There are entirely legitimate reasons for my request and for the expressions of concern from others that have come through in the past couple of hours. This request is not an attempt to stifle

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection and Harassment Policy

2014-05-28 Thread Wil Sinclair
Why did you mail this to the public mailing list? It seems to be a private communication. ,Wil On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 7:38 PM, Newyorkbrad newyorkb...@gmail.com wrote: Wil: Please take this particular aspect of the discussion offline without further postings about it. There are entirely

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection and Harassment Policy

2014-05-28 Thread Chad Horohoe
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 7:08 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: I just want to chime in here that I really enjoyed reading Molly and John's recent posts in this thread. Simply fantastic posts. I also loved posts from Thomas, Erik, and Milos in other threads from the past day. I think

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A personal note.

2014-05-28 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote: As I mentioned to Sam, I have just one more thing to say here before I let you guys deliberate on whether to block me. I've been getting tons of private emails from people who say that they don't want to see me blocked, but

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection and Harassment Policy

2014-05-28 Thread Philippe Beaudette
*Philippe Beaudette * \\ Director, Community Advocacy \\ Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. T: 1-415-839-6885 x6643 | phili...@wikimedia.org | : @Philippewikihttps://twitter.com/Philippewiki On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Chad Horohoe choro...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 7:08

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection and Harassment Policy

2014-05-28 Thread Molly White
Wil Sinclair wllm@... writes: What??? What talk page are you talking about? How in the world am I making an unsafe environment? I believe Risker is referring to the post I revision-deleted. Those are some *very* serious charges. I'm really just stunned. *No wonder people are afraid

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection and Harassment Policy

2014-05-28 Thread Wil Sinclair
Ah. You mean the edit that I didn't write, I didn't post to IRC, and I've never actually seen. Got it. ,Wil On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Molly White gorillawarfarewikipe...@gmail.com wrote: Wil Sinclair wllm@... writes: What??? What talk page are you talking about? How in the world am

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection and Harassment Policy

2014-05-28 Thread Risker
No, Wil. I mean the repeated linking to a Wikipediocracy thread that actively denigrates many of the other correspondents on this list; that advocates that you use your personal influence to persuade the new ED to fire WMF staff; that implies that every WMF-related IRC channel (there are dozens,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection and Harassment Policy

2014-05-28 Thread Wil Sinclair
Thanks, Risker. I think there are a few inaccuracies in there. * I link to threads on Wikipediocracy to demonstrate what I've actually said. In some cases, it has been characterized here without context. I'd prefer everyone just look at the original so that there are no misconceptions. What other

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection and Harassment Policy

2014-05-28 Thread Risker
Wil, the links? They're harassment. If you don't understand that, you're in no position to initiate a discussion about the subject. Risker On 29 May 2014 01:46, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote: Thanks, Risker. I think there are a few inaccuracies in there. * I link to threads on

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