Re: [Wikimedia-l] Options for the German Wikipedia

Brad On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) wrote: > *Note these are entirely my own personal opinions as a community member and > in no way at all represent anything official.* > > On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 3:12 AM, MZMcBride wrote: > > > > > I'm interested to read others' views a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

EXACTLY Who is this "community" of which we speak so glibly? Herein lies a large part of the problem. A few people claim to represent the many, based on "consensus" derived from a tiny sample. There is no one community, there are several, depending on who wants to make a point. Clique may be a b

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Options for the German Wikipedia

*Note these are entirely my own personal opinions as a community member and in no way at all represent anything official.* On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 3:12 AM, MZMcBride wrote: > > I'm interested to read others' views about options and ways forward here. > People could realize that demagoguery and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

Lila, I hope you are aware of the issues being described in this thread. Would you please state your views on this situation? Pine On Aug 10, 2014 6:09 PM, "Tomasz W. Kozłowski" wrote: > On 11 August 2014 01:05, John Lewis wrote: > > > The people who were actually responsible were the community

[Wikimedia-l] Options for the German Wikipedia

Hi. The German Wikipedia has evaluated and decided against the default use of MediaViewer on its project (preferring opt-in, rather than opt-out). Erik has made it his mission to impose MediaViewer on the German Wikipedia using Wikimedia Foundation staff coercion (cf.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

On 11 August 2014 01:05, John Lewis wrote: > The people who were actually responsible were the community. Erik was > acting in a preventative role to prevent further disruption not punish > administrators. Erik was acting in a manner that is totally disgraceful. He should have never used his forc

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

As long as we all stay friends! On 11 Aug 2014 00:57, "MF-Warburg" wrote: > Oh sorry, that was totally not the intention. It must be the strange beer > here at the Thistle Barbecue hotel. > Am 11.08.2014 00:54 schrieb "Richard Symonds" < > richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk>: > > > MF-Warburg, that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

Oh sorry, that was totally not the intention. It must be the strange beer here at the Thistle Barbecue hotel. Am 11.08.2014 00:54 schrieb "Richard Symonds" < richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk>: > MF-Warburg, that came across as a bit rude... > On 11 Aug 2014 00:29, "MF-Warburg" wrote: > > > Your m

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

MF-Warburg, that came across as a bit rude... On 11 Aug 2014 00:29, "MF-Warburg" wrote: > Your mail is embarrassing. > If you think the foundation is like the parent of the community, you don't > understand anything about the foundation nor the community. > Am 11.08.2014 00:05 schrieb "John Lewis

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Translators-l] Thank you for Tech News & see you soon

On Mon, 11 Aug 2014, at 04:07, Tomasz W. Kozłowski wrote: > Philippe, > the patch is not for the MediaWiki software but for the configuration > of Wikimedia wikis (it's in the operations/mediawiki-config repository > on Gerrit). > > It has been merged and deployed on the production cluster. The us

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

Your mail is embarrassing. If you think the foundation is like the parent of the community, you don't understand anything about the foundation nor the community. Am 11.08.2014 00:05 schrieb "John Lewis" : > The people who were actually responsible were the community. Erik was > acting in a prevent

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Tomasz W. Kozłowski wrote: > Someone is definitely forgetting that Wikimedia wikis are not the > Foundation's personal playground. > > You should be ashamed of yourself, Erik, and you should resign or be fired. > > And all volunteers should make sure to remember w

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

The people who were actually responsible were the community. Erik was acting in a preventative role to prevent further disruption not punish administrators. The community. couldn't take no for an answer and what has happened? * Wheel/edit wars * A new user right to prevent disruption * A priviledg

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

The show must go on. To ensure that no German Wikipedia administrator deletes MediaWiki:Common.js to cancel the super-protection, the WMF has just merged and deployed it to Wikimedia wikis as a matter of emergency after a personal request from Erik Moll

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 6:29 PM, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: > As this has wide-ranging implications, I have started an RFC on meta > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Superprotect_rights With that done, I'd like to ask that discussion on this topic be continued there. Not th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

> > It is clear to me that the Foundation has agreed on this sneaky change > behind closed doors while some of the most outspoken Wikimedia > volunteers were (and still are) gathered in London. It's interesting you mention Wikimania, because one of the things I took away from the conference was t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

This is, by far, the most disgusting and disrespectful action undertaken by the Foundation that I have ever witnessed. The 2012 mass desysopping of volunteer administrators on the WMF wiki and the past threats of desysopping users re: VisualEditor and MediaViewer do not even come close to this. It

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: > Hi folks, > > Admins are currently given broad leeway to customize the user > experience for all users, including addition of site-wide JS, CSS, > etc. These are important capabilities of the wiki that have been used > for many clearly benefic

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 10:08 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > David Gerard wrote: >>On 10 August 2014 15:51, MZMcBride wrote: >>> You'd been threatening to implement super-protection for a long time. I >>> see you finally made good on this very bad idea. This is certainly bold, >>> but also incredibly rec

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

On 10 August 2014 16:08, MZMcBride wrote: > He instigated the arbitration case on the > English Wikipedia That's *definitely* a claim needing actual evidence, considering he didn't bring it. I assume you can produce something. - d. ___ Wikimedia-l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

David Gerard wrote: >On 10 August 2014 15:51, MZMcBride wrote: >> You'd been threatening to implement super-protection for a long time. I >> see you finally made good on this very bad idea. This is certainly bold, >> but also incredibly reckless. Your response to being told "we don't like >> your

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

On 10 August 2014 15:51, MZMcBride wrote: > You'd been threatening to implement super-protection for a long time. I > see you finally made good on this very bad idea. This is certainly bold, > but also incredibly reckless. Your response to being told "we don't like > your software" is to try shov

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

Erik Moeller wrote: >Admins are currently given broad leeway to customize the user >experience for all users, including addition of site-wide JS, CSS, >etc. These are important capabilities of the wiki that have been used >for many clearly beneficial purposes. In the long run, we will want to >appl

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

Hi Erik, I understand you reasoning, but you couldn't have communicated and timed this in a worse way. You might be doing the right thing, but because of this ill communication and timing, this will be completely overshadowed. That saddens me. Good luck with the shit storm :-( Maarte

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

Hi folks, Admins are currently given broad leeway to customize the user experience for all users, including addition of site-wide JS, CSS, etc. These are important capabilities of the wiki that have been used for many clearly beneficial purposes. In the long run, we will want to apply a code revie

[Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

Lets all welcome the new overlord Erik. Add a new protection level called "superprotect" Assigned to nobody by default. Requested by Erik Möller for the purposes of protecting pages such that sysop permissions are not sufficient to edit them. Change-Id: Idfa211257dbacc7623d42393257de1525ff01e9e