Re: [Wikimedia-l] LGBT+ safety considerations for conference venues

2016-11-09 Thread Pax Ahimsa Gethen
Gerard, as a queer black trans person who feels unsafe even in San Francisco (and has felt that way for years), I would really appreciate you not pushing last night's election results in my face to make a point. - Pax On 11/9/16 8:24 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, Do you blame me for not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] LGBT+ safety considerations for conference venues

2016-11-09 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, What is the point. When not even the USA is "safe", we have to be realistic. Wikimania is about propaganda for what we do. We have to travel and selecting a place is not about you, it is about them. It is about the people we aim to serve. I made my point before, it did not get any attention

Re: [Wikimedia-l] LGBT+ safety considerations for conference venues

2016-11-09 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Do you blame me for not feeling safe going to the USA? Thanks, GerardM On 8 November 2016 at 11:08, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > Not going to North Corolina is absolutely fine with me. We do not gain > anything by going there arguably not to any state in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] LGBT+ safety considerations for conference venues

2016-11-09 Thread Nathan
On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 5:08 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > Not going to North Corolina is absolutely fine with me. We do not gain > anything by going there arguably not to any state in the United States. > What Wikimania is, is a platform for propaganda for what

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter to the new CTO

2016-11-09 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I'm going to take the bait and respond in part, to defend the teams and projects I work with: On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Rogol Domedonfors wrote: > they are summarised by the four words > *under-ambitious, > under-resourced, under-managed and under-performing*. The

Re: [Wikimedia-l] LGBT+ safety considerations for conference venues

2016-11-09 Thread
Gerard, You have posted several emails on the subject which read as disrespectful, can cause offence and discourage LGBT+ contributors to this list who may have otherwise openly expressed views. The line of argument that LGBT+ Wikimedians must expect to be at personal risk just to attend a

[Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Research Showcase, November 16, 2016

2016-11-09 Thread Leila Zia
[Apologies for cross-posting] Hi everyone, Almost a year ago, we [1] embarked on a research project to understand who Wikipedia readers are. More specifically, we set a goal for finding a taxonomy of Wikipedia readers. In the upcoming Research Showcase, I will present the findings of this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Research Showcase, November 16, 2016

2016-11-09 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, The topic sounds great. I'm afraid I can't watch it live, as I have other duties in the evening. Kind regards Ziko 2016-11-09 23:29 GMT+01:00 Leila Zia : > [Apologies for cross-posting] > > Hi everyone, > > Almost a year ago, we [1] embarked on a research project to

[Wikimedia-l] Hello and appreciation

2016-11-09 Thread Victoria Coleman
Hello, all. Thank you for the many public and private good wishes. It is wonderful to meet you and to have an opportunity to work with such a vibrant and active community. Like many of you, I am inspired by Wikimedia's mission and commitment to open and free knowledge. I am committed to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] LGBT+ safety considerations for conference venues

2016-11-09 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The notion of offence is one where you take it where there is none certainly no offence is intended. When you consider Wikimanias past, we have been to places where there is a "risk". Arguably there has been a risk in going to other countries in the past. When you consider the events

Re: [Wikimedia-l] LGBT+ safety considerations for conference venues

2016-11-09 Thread
Gerard, Yes you are being offensive. You are deliberately painting a picture that somehow Pax, myself and others are attempting to make out that safety of LGBT+ Wikimedians is more important than safety of Women Wikimedians or the safety of Muslim Wikimedians. The only person doing that is you.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Research Showcase, November 16, 2016

2016-11-09 Thread Leila Zia
Hi Ziko, Too bad you can't be there. :/ Do watch it afterwards if you're interested and ping if you'd like to chat about it. Best, Leila On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Ziko van Dijk wrote: > Hello, > The topic sounds great. I'm afraid I can't watch it live, as I have