Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen

[Florence Devouard]

H


Needs a bit of process clarification here...

So here is what we did (I know it is not perfect, but we did within our 
constraints and own skills).



1. I created a category on the English Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Wiki_Loves_Women_translation

I categorized the 16 articles from their talk page.
This category is simply a maintenance one (not used in the article 
mainspace)


In the future (asap I have the time...), I will rather create a template 
which will include the above category and replace the category in the 
talk page by the template. This will allow me to make the information 
prettier and more explicit (using a logo etc.).

But practically... the category is enough.



2. Sam (AfricanHope) wrote a bot : 
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:CivBot


The bot is updating this page to list articles per language : 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/Table


It does not use all languages, but only languages listed on this table : 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/languages


Where does that list come from ? Well... it includes all languages used 
at least once in one of the 16 biographies.


One thing the bot does NOT do is identify when a new language (not in 
the list above) is added.


I will have to figure that out on the way... it could certainly be 
automated... at the same time... we talk only of 16 articles to check. 
So... I may be lazy and just check once a day.


But if anyone knows a quick query that is able to tell me "which new 
language has been added as a new translation version on one of the 16 
articles, which is not in the current list"... feel free to contact me ;)




3) There were quite a few already existing articles in various 
languages. So I have done a quick review of the state of those articles 
at start. I summarize those state here : 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/status




4) The inclusion of the username on the meta page is not really to track 
participants. It is simply a human element, a place where we can meet 
and share and see which people are interested helping. It is more of a 
networking place if you want.




5) The complete list of participants is totally findable anytime Isaac.
I have not tried to do the query myself yet. It is essentially
* list of all usernames
* which edited those 16 biographies
* in any language (or the sublist above)
* between 20th of Feb and the 07 of March

We can even rank the result by "number of characters added" (in case we 
think quantity is a measure of involvement - which I am not fully sure).


Or we can rank the result by "number of biographies edited" by participants.



ANYONE WILLING TO HELP ON THIS ONE ? <--- get in touch

-

It is nice to consider a category or template to tag the talk page of 
each article in all language for "community building" reasons (as in 
"this article participated to the "16WikiWomen translation project"). 
Because it is simply cool for us together to remember what we did, when 
we did it, why we did it. It is cool to see who is interested. That's 
why we stick around doing the things we do. That's the HUMAN element.



But, when it comes to tracking...(to measure success), we do not need 
that category system to know who edited those articles...

Big brother ...


Anthere




Le 21/02/2017 à 00:56, Olatunde Isaac a écrit :

Hi Romaine,

Thanks for your comment but I think category like this is not uncommon on 
Wikimedia projects. We often use it for maintenance and navigation (as you have 
correctly noted above) and not as part of the encyclopedia. It is different 
from content category. Thus, we don't include it on content categories. We use 
it to track the number of articles created as part of a project/contest as well 
as the number of participants.

Let's look at it this way; If I'm participating in 16WikiWomen translation 
project for example, and I did not include my username on the list of 
participants on meta, there is no way the organizers would have known that I'm 
a participant and any article I translate as part of the project would be 
considered as a routine contribution.

Measure of success is important in every project and I think the 16WikiWomen 
organizers would be interested in knowing the number of articles translated and 
the number of participants, to measure the success of their project.

If there is something like "Category:16WikiWomen" for example, they could visit 
each language Wikipedia they listed on the project page and search for the category. This 
would show the number of articles translated and the translators (participants).

"Category:Women footballers" - to check for women footballers or number of 
women footballers.

"Category:16WikiWomen" - to check for the number of articles translated or the 
number of translator.

The two above illustrative categories have different scope.

Please, correct me if

[Wikimedia-l] Help! Can't save on any Wikipedia

[Enock Seth Nyamador]

Hello Wikimedians,

Saw the message in this image [1] one week ago but didn't take it serious.
Now it seems to be real. I can't Save. The screenshot [1] show messages
from frwp and enwp when I tried to save my changes.

Yes, I've tried logging in and out several times.

Best,

1. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B99n1pG7IHtJdy1VeFZXX19HYTQ/view

- Enock
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Help! Can't save on any Wikipedia

[Amir E. Aharoni]

This happened lately to a lot of Wikipedians, including myself. See
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151770 for the technical details.

Briefly, if you delete all your cookies and log back in to Wikipedia, then
this should work. (Deleting your cookies will cause you to get logged out
of all your websites where you have accountes, so be sure that you remember
all your passwords or get ready to processing a lot of password reminder
emails :)


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I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬

2017-02-21 21:16 GMT+02:00 Enock Seth Nyamador :

> Hello Wikimedians,
>
> Saw the message in this image [1] one week ago but didn't take it serious.
> Now it seems to be real. I can't Save. The screenshot [1] show messages
> from frwp and enwp when I tried to save my changes.
>
> Yes, I've tried logging in and out several times.
>
> Best,
>
> 1. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B99n1pG7IHtJdy1VeFZXX19HYTQ/view
>
> - Enock
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Help! Can't save on any Wikipedia

[Chico Venancio]

I have experienced this as well. For the problem went away when I restarted
the browser and logged out then logged in again. I'm not sure if this is a
local browser issue or if the session data got messed up server-side, but
getting a new session was the only way to solve it for me.

Chico Venancio

2017-02-21 16:16 GMT-03:00 Enock Seth Nyamador :

> Hello Wikimedians,
>
> Saw the message in this image [1] one week ago but didn't take it serious.
> Now it seems to be real. I can't Save. The screenshot [1] show messages
> from frwp and enwp when I tried to save my changes.
>
> Yes, I've tried logging in and out several times.
>
> Best,
>
> 1. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B99n1pG7IHtJdy1VeFZXX19HYTQ/view
>
> - Enock
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen

[Olatunde Isaac]

Thanks for the clarification, Flo.

Best,

Isaac
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Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen

H


Needs a bit of process clarification here...

So here is what we did (I know it is not perfect, but we did within our 
constraints and own skills).


1. I created a category on the English Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Wiki_Loves_Women_translation

I categorized the 16 articles from their talk page.
This category is simply a maintenance one (not used in the article 
mainspace)

In the future (asap I have the time...), I will rather create a template 
which will include the above category and replace the category in the 
talk page by the template. This will allow me to make the information 
prettier and more explicit (using a logo etc.).
But practically... the category is enough.



2. Sam (AfricanHope) wrote a bot : 
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:CivBot

The bot is updating this page to list articles per language : 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/Table

It does not use all languages, but only languages listed on this table : 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/languages

Where does that list come from ? Well... it includes all languages used 
at least once in one of the 16 biographies.

One thing the bot does NOT do is identify when a new language (not in 
the list above) is added.

I will have to figure that out on the way... it could certainly be 
automated... at the same time... we talk only of 16 articles to check. 
So... I may be lazy and just check once a day.

But if anyone knows a quick query that is able to tell me "which new 
language has been added as a new translation version on one of the 16 
articles, which is not in the current list"... feel free to contact me ;)



3) There were quite a few already existing articles in various 
languages. So I have done a quick review of the state of those articles 
at start. I summarize those state here : 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/status



4) The inclusion of the username on the meta page is not really to track 
participants. It is simply a human element, a place where we can meet 
and share and see which people are interested helping. It is more of a 
networking place if you want.



5) The complete list of participants is totally findable anytime Isaac.
I have not tried to do the query myself yet. It is essentially
* list of all usernames
* which edited those 16 biographies
* in any language (or the sublist above)
* between 20th of Feb and the 07 of March

We can even rank the result by "number of characters added" (in case we 
think quantity is a measure of involvement - which I am not fully sure).

Or we can rank the result by "number of biographies edited" by participants.



ANYONE WILLING TO HELP ON THIS ONE ? <--- get in touch

-

It is nice to consider a category or template to tag the talk page of 
each article in all language for "community building" reasons (as in 
"this article participated to the "16WikiWomen translation project"). 
Because it is simply cool for us together to remember what we did, when 
we did it, why we did it. It is cool to see who is interested. That's 
why we stick around doing the things we do. That's the HUMAN element.


But, when it comes to tracking...(to measure success), we do not need 
that category system to know who edited those articles...
Big brother ...


Anthere




Le 21/02/2017 à 00:56, Olatunde Isaac a écrit :
> Hi Romaine,
>
> Thanks for your comment but I think category like this is not uncommon on 
> Wikimedia projects. We often use it for maintenance and navigation (as you 
> have correctly noted above) and not as part of the encyclopedia. It is 
> different from content category. Thus, we don't include it on content 
> categories. We use it to track the number of articles created as part of a 
> project/contest as well as the number of participants.
>
> Let's look at it this way; If I'm participating in 16WikiWomen translation 
> project for example, and I did not include my username on the list of 
> participants on meta, there is no way the organizers would have known that 
> I'm a participant and any article I translate as part of the project would be 
> considered as a routine contribution.
>
> Measure of success is important in every project and I think the 16WikiWomen 
> organizers would be interested in knowing the number of articles translated 
> and the number of participants, to measure the success of their project.
>
> If there is something like "Category:16WikiWomen" for example, they could 
> visit each language Wikipedia they listed on the project page and search for 
> the category. This would show the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Help! Can't save on any Wikipedia

[Thibaut P .]

Hello,

There's a bug affecting recent versions of Firefox, the fix is described 
here: .

Regards,
Thibaut

On 21.02.2017 20:16, Enock Seth Nyamador wrote:
> Hello Wikimedians,
>
> Saw the message in this image [1] one week ago but didn't take it serious.
> Now it seems to be real. I can't Save. The screenshot [1] show messages
> from frwp and enwp when I tried to save my changes.
>
> Yes, I've tried logging in and out several times.
>
> Best,
>
> 1. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B99n1pG7IHtJdy1VeFZXX19HYTQ/view
>
> - Enock
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[Wikimedia-l] Diversity and EEO-1

[Rogol Domedonfors]

The BBC reports http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-39035512 on a
controversy involvig Uber and its diversity policies.



*Until now, Uber had been standing firm on not publishing its diversity
figures. Most major technology companies make public their EEO-1 - a
government filing that breaks down employees by race, religion, gender and
other factors.*
I assume that the WMF would prefer to align itself with the majority, and
demonstrate its commitment to transparency.  Will the WMF publish its EEO-1
figures?

"Rogol"
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[Wikimedia-l] Draft Code of Conduct for Technical Spaces

[Rogol Domedonfors]

This code has been under discussion at
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_Conduct/Draft since the summer
of 2015, and is finally nearing completion.  The original consensus in 2015
had been that the completed code would be submitted to the community for
ratification and adoption.  However, since the end of 2015 the drafting of
the code has largely been in the hands of a small group of WMF staff, and
they have taken it on themselves to change that consensus and stated that
the code will come into effect as soon as the last section is agreed, which
will be quite soon.

Do the WMF and the wider Community wish to adhere to the initial consensus,
and put the draft code out to the comunity for adoption?  Or will the WMF
choose to enact it on their own authority irrespective of any community
views on the subject?

If the code is to be voted on by the Community, what would be the
appropriate venue for the vote, and where should the vote be publicised?

"Rogol"
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Draft Code of Conduct for Technical Spaces

[Lane Rasberry]

Hello,

As of January the WMF has presented these also -

Dealing with online harassment
<
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Training_modules/Online_harassment/First_draft
>

Keeping events safe
<
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Training_modules/Keeping_events_safe/First_draft
>

I would like for whatever is adopted to match other similar proposals. So
far as I know, the technical space proposal is not compared with the
"online" proposal or the "events" proposal.

All of these are fine for informal consideration but I am not sure that now
is the time to call for final review of any of them. Votes take so much
community attention. I would be happy with any small group informally
approving any of these and circulating them slowly for a while instead of
calling for a vote just yet.

Thoughts?



On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Rogol Domedonfors 
wrote:

> This code has been under discussion at
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_Conduct/Draft since the summer
> of 2015, and is finally nearing completion.  The original consensus in 2015
> had been that the completed code would be submitted to the community for
> ratification and adoption.  However, since the end of 2015 the drafting of
> the code has largely been in the hands of a small group of WMF staff, and
> they have taken it on themselves to change that consensus and stated that
> the code will come into effect as soon as the last section is agreed, which
> will be quite soon.
>
> Do the WMF and the wider Community wish to adhere to the initial consensus,
> and put the draft code out to the comunity for adoption?  Or will the WMF
> choose to enact it on their own authority irrespective of any community
> views on the subject?
>
> If the code is to be voted on by the Community, what would be the
> appropriate venue for the vote, and where should the vote be publicised?
>
> "Rogol"
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Draft Code of Conduct for Technical Spaces

[Erik Bernhardson]

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Rogol Domedonfors 
wrote:

> This code has been under discussion at
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_Conduct/Draft since the summer
> of 2015, and is finally nearing completion.  The original consensus in 2015
> had been that the completed code would be submitted to the community for
> ratification and adoption.  However, since the end of 2015 the drafting of
> the code has largely been in the hands of a small group of WMF staff, and
> they have taken it on themselves to change that consensus and stated that
> the code will come into effect as soon as the last section is agreed, which
> will be quite soon.
>
> Do the WMF and the wider Community wish to adhere to the initial consensus,
> and put the draft code out to the comunity for adoption?  Or will the WMF
> choose to enact it on their own authority irrespective of any community
> views on the subject?
>
> It's not particularly clear hear, which community? The developers of
mediawiki-core? extension developers? people who attend hackathons and
such? It seems all of these groups have been bombarded with calls to
participate in the process over the last year and have had plenty of
opportunity to be heard. That only a small group of WMF staff have decided
to participate, almost entirely in their free time as volunteers and not
paid employees, doesn't seem to change that.


> If the code is to be voted on by the Community, what would be the
> appropriate venue for the vote, and where should the vote be publicised?
>
> "Rogol"
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Draft Code of Conduct for Technical Spaces

[Todd Allen]

Actually, I had no idea it was going on until very recently. It seems the
initial communications were pretty much restricted to those already
involved in technical areas or mailing lists.

"The community", when we're talking about something that will affect
everyone, means, well, everyone who cares to participate in the discussion.
The final version should be advertised as widely as possible, and the
community (not a subset of it) should decide if it's acceptable.

The fact that some people have participated on specific parts does not
negate the need for ratification of the full and final version. Work on
individual sections hammers out what you're going to present to the
community. It does not bypass the need to actually do that.

Todd

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Erik Bernhardson <
ebernhard...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Rogol Domedonfors 
> wrote:
>
> > This code has been under discussion at
> > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_Conduct/Draft since the
> summer
> > of 2015, and is finally nearing completion.  The original consensus in
> 2015
> > had been that the completed code would be submitted to the community for
> > ratification and adoption.  However, since the end of 2015 the drafting
> of
> > the code has largely been in the hands of a small group of WMF staff, and
> > they have taken it on themselves to change that consensus and stated that
> > the code will come into effect as soon as the last section is agreed,
> which
> > will be quite soon.
> >
> > Do the WMF and the wider Community wish to adhere to the initial
> consensus,
> > and put the draft code out to the comunity for adoption?  Or will the WMF
> > choose to enact it on their own authority irrespective of any community
> > views on the subject?
> >
> > It's not particularly clear hear, which community? The developers of
> mediawiki-core? extension developers? people who attend hackathons and
> such? It seems all of these groups have been bombarded with calls to
> participate in the process over the last year and have had plenty of
> opportunity to be heard. That only a small group of WMF staff have decided
> to participate, almost entirely in their free time as volunteers and not
> paid employees, doesn't seem to change that.
>
>
> > If the code is to be voted on by the Community, what would be the
> > appropriate venue for the vote, and where should the vote be publicised?
> >
> > "Rogol"
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Draft Code of Conduct for Technical Spaces

[Erik Bernhardson]

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Todd Allen  wrote:

> Actually, I had no idea it was going on until very recently. It seems the
> initial communications were pretty much restricted to those already
> involved in technical areas or mailing lists.
>
> "The community", when we're talking about something that will affect
> everyone, means, well, everyone who cares to participate in the discussion.
> The final version should be advertised as widely as possible, and the
> community (not a subset of it) should decide if it's acceptable.
>
> Again this hasn't defined what the community is.  The opening statement of
the draft says

This is a *code of conduct for Wikimedia technical spaces*. It applies both
> within physical spaces, such as Wikimedia technical events and Wikimedia
> technical presentations in other events, and virtual spaces (MediaWiki.org,
> wikitech.wikimedia.org , Phabricator
> , Gerrit
> , technical
> mailing lists
> 
> , technical IRC channels
> ,
> and Etherpad 
> ).


Is this the community you are referring to?


> The fact that some people have participated on specific parts does not
> negate the need for ratification of the full and final version. Work on
> individual sections hammers out what you're going to present to the
> community. It does not bypass the need to actually do that.
>
> Todd
>
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Erik Bernhardson <
> ebernhard...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Rogol Domedonfors <
> domedonf...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > This code has been under discussion at
> > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_Conduct/Draft since the
> > summer
> > > of 2015, and is finally nearing completion.  The original consensus in
> > 2015
> > > had been that the completed code would be submitted to the community
> for
> > > ratification and adoption.  However, since the end of 2015 the drafting
> > of
> > > the code has largely been in the hands of a small group of WMF staff,
> and
> > > they have taken it on themselves to change that consensus and stated
> that
> > > the code will come into effect as soon as the last section is agreed,
> > which
> > > will be quite soon.
> > >
> > > Do the WMF and the wider Community wish to adhere to the initial
> > consensus,
> > > and put the draft code out to the comunity for adoption?  Or will the
> WMF
> > > choose to enact it on their own authority irrespective of any community
> > > views on the subject?
> > >
> > > It's not particularly clear hear, which community? The developers of
> > mediawiki-core? extension developers? people who attend hackathons and
> > such? It seems all of these groups have been bombarded with calls to
> > participate in the process over the last year and have had plenty of
> > opportunity to be heard. That only a small group of WMF staff have
> decided
> > to participate, almost entirely in their free time as volunteers and not
> > paid employees, doesn't seem to change that.
> >
> >
> > > If the code is to be voted on by the Community, what would be the
> > > appropriate venue for the vote, and where should the vote be
> publicised?
> > >
> > > "Rogol"
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Draft Code of Conduct for Technical Spaces

[Todd Allen]

No. The community I am referring to is all WMF project participants who
might be interested in presenting their opinion on the subject, regardless
of whether or not they currently participate in any given specific area.
That is always the case.

Todd

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 4:21 PM, Erik Bernhardson <
ebernhard...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Todd Allen  wrote:
>
> > Actually, I had no idea it was going on until very recently. It seems the
> > initial communications were pretty much restricted to those already
> > involved in technical areas or mailing lists.
> >
> > "The community", when we're talking about something that will affect
> > everyone, means, well, everyone who cares to participate in the
> discussion.
> > The final version should be advertised as widely as possible, and the
> > community (not a subset of it) should decide if it's acceptable.
> >
> > Again this hasn't defined what the community is.  The opening statement
> of
> the draft says
>
> This is a *code of conduct for Wikimedia technical spaces*. It applies both
> > within physical spaces, such as Wikimedia technical events and Wikimedia
> > technical presentations in other events, and virtual spaces
> (MediaWiki.org,
> > wikitech.wikimedia.org ,
> Phabricator
> > , Gerrit
> > , technical
> > mailing lists
> >  MediaWiki_and_technical>
> > , technical IRC channels
> > ,
> > and Etherpad  >
> > ).
>
>
> Is this the community you are referring to?
>
>
> > The fact that some people have participated on specific parts does not
> > negate the need for ratification of the full and final version. Work on
> > individual sections hammers out what you're going to present to the
> > community. It does not bypass the need to actually do that.
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Erik Bernhardson <
> > ebernhard...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Rogol Domedonfors <
> > domedonf...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > This code has been under discussion at
> > > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_Conduct/Draft since the
> > > summer
> > > > of 2015, and is finally nearing completion.  The original consensus
> in
> > > 2015
> > > > had been that the completed code would be submitted to the community
> > for
> > > > ratification and adoption.  However, since the end of 2015 the
> drafting
> > > of
> > > > the code has largely been in the hands of a small group of WMF staff,
> > and
> > > > they have taken it on themselves to change that consensus and stated
> > that
> > > > the code will come into effect as soon as the last section is agreed,
> > > which
> > > > will be quite soon.
> > > >
> > > > Do the WMF and the wider Community wish to adhere to the initial
> > > consensus,
> > > > and put the draft code out to the comunity for adoption?  Or will the
> > WMF
> > > > choose to enact it on their own authority irrespective of any
> community
> > > > views on the subject?
> > > >
> > > > It's not particularly clear hear, which community? The developers of
> > > mediawiki-core? extension developers? people who attend hackathons and
> > > such? It seems all of these groups have been bombarded with calls to
> > > participate in the process over the last year and have had plenty of
> > > opportunity to be heard. That only a small group of WMF staff have
> > decided
> > > to participate, almost entirely in their free time as volunteers and
> not
> > > paid employees, doesn't seem to change that.
> > >
> > >
> > > > If the code is to be voted on by the Community, what would be the
> > > > appropriate venue for the vote, and where should the vote be
> > publicised?
> > > >
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[Wikimedia-l] Blocks of new accounts in Angola?

[Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton]

I've been receiving complains via Facebook from people of Angola about not
being able to create new accounts, some know something about it? They
receive the as if the IP was blocked, however we receive more then 5
complains just in the Commons FB page.

Any ideas?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks of new accounts in Angola?

[George William Herbert]

Have them hit whatismyip.org and tell us what shows up..,

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 21, 2017, at 5:58 PM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've been receiving complains via Facebook from people of Angola about not
> being able to create new accounts, some know something about it? They
> receive the as if the IP was blocked, however we receive more then 5
> complains just in the Commons FB page.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> -- 
> Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton
> rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com
> +55 11 979 718 884
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