Re: [Wikimedia-l] Status of the Code of Conduct for technical spaces

[Chris "Jethro" Schilling]

FYI, Edward Galvez has been maintaining this calendar that has been going
for a while that chapters and staff have been using for various
consultations, surveys, and RfCs.


https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Engagement/Calendar


Seems to me this is a good approach to avoid the issue of "my inbox is
inundated with so many notices" while also informing community members with
what is going on.

- Chris

Chris "Jethro" Schilling
I JethroBT (WMF) 
Community Organizer, Wikimedia Foundation


On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Pine W  wrote:

> My point is more or less the same one that you're making. Communications
> (too much and too little) and information overload are both challenges. I
> don't think there's going to be a silver bullet solution, but I hope that
> WMF will invest effort into addressing this set of problems during the next
> Annual Plan. Some of this is WMF-specific, but some of it also relates to
> how we've organized ourselves in the community through organic growth and
> over time we've developed so many channels that one wonders if we would
> benefit from some consolidation and pruning.
>
> Pine
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 2:15 PM, David Gerard  wrote:
>
> > You mean, "how to deal with people who complain they weren't consulted
> > then turn around and complain they were excessively consulted"? At
> > this point, the appropriate thing would be to put forward a plausible
> > solution rather than complain they did the thing you claimed they
> > hadn't sufficiently done.
> >
> >
> > - d.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 18 March 2017 at 20:39, Pine W  wrote:
> > > Chris,
> > >
> > > That last paragraph assumes that people (1) know where to look and (2)
> > have
> > > hours to spend watching countless channels for announcements. On the
> > other
> > > hand, there's also a problem of burying people in so many
> announcements,
> > > surveys, and consultations that people start to tune it all out. This
> is
> > > part of a larger set of communications and "information overload"
> > problems
> > > that I'm hoping that WMF will address, particularly during its next
> > Annual
> > > Plan.
> > >
> > > Pine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

[Gergő Tisza]

On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Pine W  wrote:

> As I said, some of this is WMF-specific. For example, WMF could coordinate
> its requests for surveys and consultations so that they happen on a
> predictable monthly basis instead of sending what feels like 10+
> notifications every month for separate consultations and surveys


You might be looking for https://meta.wikimedia.
org/wiki/Community_Engagement/Calendar
In any case, it seems a bit tendentious to raise this in the context of the
Code of the Coduct, which (as it has been told ad nauseam) was a volunteer
initiative, organized mostly with resources available to volunteers.
Feel free though to discuss your preferences on notification frequency with
the people who complained all along that insufficient effort is being made
to get the community to participate.
There is a Hungarian saying about a rabbit and a hat, of which these
conversations somewhat remind me:
https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/4bd293/til_that_hungary_held_a_contest_to_name_a_danube/d18f4k9/
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Status of the Code of Conduct for technical spaces

[Chico Venancio]

Pine,
Of course we could benefit from consolidation and pruning of communication
channels. This has been the case for at least a decade, how to do that
without alienating part of the community that uses the pruned channels is a
very difficult task, however.
Nevertheless, this does not mean one can claim he did not get involved with
an issue because it was communicated too many times over too many places,
or rather, though one can claim that it is unlikely he will be taken
seriously.

Chico Venancio

2017-03-18 18:52 GMT-03:00 Pine W :

> My point is more or less the same one that you're making. Communications
> (too much and too little) and information overload are both challenges. I
> don't think there's going to be a silver bullet solution, but I hope that
> WMF will invest effort into addressing this set of problems during the next
> Annual Plan. Some of this is WMF-specific, but some of it also relates to
> how we've organized ourselves in the community through organic growth and
> over time we've developed so many channels that one wonders if we would
> benefit from some consolidation and pruning.
>
> Pine
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 2:15 PM, David Gerard  wrote:
>
> > You mean, "how to deal with people who complain they weren't consulted
> > then turn around and complain they were excessively consulted"? At
> > this point, the appropriate thing would be to put forward a plausible
> > solution rather than complain they did the thing you claimed they
> > hadn't sufficiently done.
> >
> >
> > - d.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 18 March 2017 at 20:39, Pine W  wrote:
> > > Chris,
> > >
> > > That last paragraph assumes that people (1) know where to look and (2)
> > have
> > > hours to spend watching countless channels for announcements. On the
> > other
> > > hand, there's also a problem of burying people in so many
> announcements,
> > > surveys, and consultations that people start to tune it all out. This
> is
> > > part of a larger set of communications and "information overload"
> > problems
> > > that I'm hoping that WMF will address, particularly during its next
> > Annual
> > > Plan.
> > >
> > > Pine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

[Pine W]

As I said, some of this is WMF-specific. For example, WMF could coordinate
its requests for surveys and consultations so that they happen on a
predictable monthly basis instead of sending what feels like 10+
notifications every month for separate consultations and surveys, with some
of those being repeat requests (personally I think a ceiling of 2 requests
per consultation/survey would be appropriate). I'm in favor of
consultations, but there can be too much of a good thing. Information
overload is as much of a problem as lack of communication.

I don't have a solution to this package of problems, but I think it would
be worth researching and trying to refine information flows for greater
efficiency and effectiveness, and to make more effective use of everyone's
time. I imagine that large organizations (e.g. IBM) have people whose jobs
are focused on improving information workflows within their organization,
and I think that WMF and the community could benefit from that kind of
approach to communications and information management.

Pine


On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Lodewijk 
wrote:

> (branching this into a new thread as it gets quite off topic)
>
> Pine: Why do you think the solution lies with the Wikimedia Foundation?
>
> Lodewijk
>
> 2017-03-18 22:52 GMT+01:00 Pine W :
>
> > My point is more or less the same one that you're making. Communications
> > (too much and too little) and information overload are both challenges. I
> > don't think there's going to be a silver bullet solution, but I hope that
> > WMF will invest effort into addressing this set of problems during the
> next
> > Annual Plan. Some of this is WMF-specific, but some of it also relates to
> > how we've organized ourselves in the community through organic growth and
> > over time we've developed so many channels that one wonders if we would
> > benefit from some consolidation and pruning.
> >
> > Pine
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 2:15 PM, David Gerard  wrote:
> >
> > > You mean, "how to deal with people who complain they weren't consulted
> > > then turn around and complain they were excessively consulted"? At
> > > this point, the appropriate thing would be to put forward a plausible
> > > solution rather than complain they did the thing you claimed they
> > > hadn't sufficiently done.
> > >
> > >
> > > - d.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 18 March 2017 at 20:39, Pine W  wrote:
> > > > Chris,
> > > >
> > > > That last paragraph assumes that people (1) know where to look and
> (2)
> > > have
> > > > hours to spend watching countless channels for announcements. On the
> > > other
> > > > hand, there's also a problem of burying people in so many
> > announcements,
> > > > surveys, and consultations that people start to tune it all out. This
> > is
> > > > part of a larger set of communications and "information overload"
> > > problems
> > > > that I'm hoping that WMF will address, particularly during its next
> > > Annual
> > > > Plan.
> > > >
> > > > Pine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Board Recruitment Kick-Off: Changes to the Timeline

[Pine W]

Christophe,

Thanks for the comments.

I think of WMF Board membership as being similar to ENWP Arbcom or some
event committee memberships in the sense that doing the roles well often
seems to require a near-martyrdom level of commitment. I'd like to see some
ceilings on workloads for volunteers, and that includes the WMF Board if
Board members aren't going to be compensated for their time. One way to
enable those ceilings to be realistic, as we've discussed in this thread,
is to provide support from paid staff for routine work, organizing
communications, preparing reports, writing grant requests, etc. I guess my
priorities in no particular order are that (1) work gets done in a timely
and reasonably high-quality manner, (2) people don't get burnt out. I'm in
favor of using funds to support the community in achieving those goals.

By the way, I'm also aware that taking on roles like WMF Board membership,
ENWP Arbcom, etc. means dealing with a seemingly endless string of
complaints and requests, and I appreciate your making efforts to do a good
job.

Pine


On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 12:36 AM, Christophe Henner 
wrote:

> Hey,
>
> Many topics covered here :)
>
> 1. Paid vs. unpaid: I don't know of the legal situation, but I always felt
> that for a NGO it is better to have a volunteer board. Especially for us as
> our movement is built thanks to volunteers. I fear it would slightly hinder
> our message if trustees were paid. But, when we need a specific expertise,
> then we can pay for it. But not as a trustee, as an expert helping us on a
> specific matter;
>
> 2. Time comitment. So on that, we are actively working on trying to reduce
> the mandatory time board members have to allocate to WMF. Goal is between
> this year and next year to lower it down to what we benchmarked as average
> (and I can't find the number again, I'll dig into that). That work started
> after a discussion with Guy on the fact that the time comitment was so high
> we migh scare away high profiles. So working to get mandatory board time
> down.
> But there's also "non-mandatory" time comitment. I can only speak for me,
> but right now, it takes me from 2h in the day up to 6h, almost everyday. I
> try to have Sundays when I don't work (either for my job or wikimedia). In
> that I do include reading (scanning for some mailing lists) emails.
>
> Right now, I think that the most complicated thing to handle is travel
> times as you need to take almost a week off every time we travel abroad.
> But until we invent teleportation (that would be super cool), I can't see a
> way to change that.
>
> 3. Staff support to the board : We already have some. First, as the
> treasurer and secretary roles are filled by staff members, it unburden
> board members a lot. On top of that, we also benefit from support from each
> department on a needs basis. Travels are taken care of by staff, I'm
> working on slides now, I could ask the communication department to help me
> on that. Anna and Michelle work a lot with Natalia on board recruitement.
>
> To be fair, staff does a lot of heavy lifting for us already.
>
> What is true however is that we don't have one personn fully assigned to
> support the board. But I'm not sure it is needed right now. That might be a
> discussion worth having.
>
> 4. Appointed seats "quality": yes we are looking for great board members.
> And that is also why we need more time than one could expect.
>
>
>
> Christophe HENNER
> Chair of the board of trustees
> chen...@wikimedia.org
> +33650664739
>
> twitter *@schiste*skype *christophe_henner*
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 3:52 AM, Pine W  wrote:
>
> > Hi James,
> >
> > Two points:
> >
> > 1. Intrinsic motivation, at this point, appears to be inadequate for
> > increasing the population of the Wikimedia volunteer community. I am
> > skeptical that we should rely on the same mechanism which isn't working
> in
> > the volunteer community to fill slots on the WMF Board, which also seems
> to
> > be struggling to fill its ranks.
> >
> > 2. I think that there's some grey between fully intrinsic and fully
> > extrinsic motivation. For example, there are a number WMF employees to
> > which WMF pays $100,000+ compensation packages. Yet we don't complain
> that
> > their motivations are extrinsic and incompatible with the Wikimedia
> > mission. WMF pays them that level of compensation to encourage them to
> stay
> > with WMF instead of working for another organization (probably a
> for-profit
> > one) which would likely pay them similar levels of compensation. It seems
> > to me that if WMF is struggling to attract the quantity and quality of
> > Board members that it needs, then compensation is a reasonable option to
> > consider.
> >
> > Responding to Pete: although it's unusual for nonprofit board members to
> be
> > paid, as far as I can see the practice isn't forbidden. I imagine that
> WMF
> > Legal could provide guidance about what is and isn't allowed. Whether
> > whether 

[Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

[Lodewijk]

(branching this into a new thread as it gets quite off topic)

Pine: Why do you think the solution lies with the Wikimedia Foundation?

Lodewijk

2017-03-18 22:52 GMT+01:00 Pine W :

> My point is more or less the same one that you're making. Communications
> (too much and too little) and information overload are both challenges. I
> don't think there's going to be a silver bullet solution, but I hope that
> WMF will invest effort into addressing this set of problems during the next
> Annual Plan. Some of this is WMF-specific, but some of it also relates to
> how we've organized ourselves in the community through organic growth and
> over time we've developed so many channels that one wonders if we would
> benefit from some consolidation and pruning.
>
> Pine
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 2:15 PM, David Gerard  wrote:
>
> > You mean, "how to deal with people who complain they weren't consulted
> > then turn around and complain they were excessively consulted"? At
> > this point, the appropriate thing would be to put forward a plausible
> > solution rather than complain they did the thing you claimed they
> > hadn't sufficiently done.
> >
> >
> > - d.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 18 March 2017 at 20:39, Pine W  wrote:
> > > Chris,
> > >
> > > That last paragraph assumes that people (1) know where to look and (2)
> > have
> > > hours to spend watching countless channels for announcements. On the
> > other
> > > hand, there's also a problem of burying people in so many
> announcements,
> > > surveys, and consultations that people start to tune it all out. This
> is
> > > part of a larger set of communications and "information overload"
> > problems
> > > that I'm hoping that WMF will address, particularly during its next
> > Annual
> > > Plan.
> > >
> > > Pine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Status of the Code of Conduct for technical spaces

[Pine W]

My point is more or less the same one that you're making. Communications
(too much and too little) and information overload are both challenges. I
don't think there's going to be a silver bullet solution, but I hope that
WMF will invest effort into addressing this set of problems during the next
Annual Plan. Some of this is WMF-specific, but some of it also relates to
how we've organized ourselves in the community through organic growth and
over time we've developed so many channels that one wonders if we would
benefit from some consolidation and pruning.

Pine


On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 2:15 PM, David Gerard  wrote:

> You mean, "how to deal with people who complain they weren't consulted
> then turn around and complain they were excessively consulted"? At
> this point, the appropriate thing would be to put forward a plausible
> solution rather than complain they did the thing you claimed they
> hadn't sufficiently done.
>
>
> - d.
>
>
>
>
> On 18 March 2017 at 20:39, Pine W  wrote:
> > Chris,
> >
> > That last paragraph assumes that people (1) know where to look and (2)
> have
> > hours to spend watching countless channels for announcements. On the
> other
> > hand, there's also a problem of burying people in so many announcements,
> > surveys, and consultations that people start to tune it all out. This is
> > part of a larger set of communications and "information overload"
> problems
> > that I'm hoping that WMF will address, particularly during its next
> Annual
> > Plan.
> >
> > Pine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Status of the Code of Conduct for technical spaces

[David Gerard]

You mean, "how to deal with people who complain they weren't consulted
then turn around and complain they were excessively consulted"? At
this point, the appropriate thing would be to put forward a plausible
solution rather than complain they did the thing you claimed they
hadn't sufficiently done.


- d.




On 18 March 2017 at 20:39, Pine W  wrote:
> Chris,
>
> That last paragraph assumes that people (1) know where to look and (2) have
> hours to spend watching countless channels for announcements. On the other
> hand, there's also a problem of burying people in so many announcements,
> surveys, and consultations that people start to tune it all out. This is
> part of a larger set of communications and "information overload" problems
> that I'm hoping that WMF will address, particularly during its next Annual
> Plan.
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Status of the Code of Conduct for technical spaces

[Pine W]

Chris,

That last paragraph assumes that people (1) know where to look and (2) have
hours to spend watching countless channels for announcements. On the other
hand, there's also a problem of burying people in so many announcements,
surveys, and consultations that people start to tune it all out. This is
part of a larger set of communications and "information overload" problems
that I'm hoping that WMF will address, particularly during its next Annual
Plan.

Pine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Status of the Code of Conduct for technical spaces

[Chris "Jethro" Schilling]

Well, folks are free to ignore invitations to comment; there are indeed a
lot of discussion notices for various matters, so I don't blame them if
they world rather volunteer their time in other places.

But they cannot then also argue that they didn't know about it. If people
want to know what's going on in our projects, it's their responsibility to
follow places where announcements are posted and read them.

- Chris

On Mar 11, 2017 3:53 PM, "Isarra Yos"  wrote:

On 09/03/17 20:36, Antoine Musso wrote:

> The RfC has been going on for almost two years already. Given the flood
> of announces on a wide range of mailing lists, I don't see how one could
> have missed it.
>

The flood might be exactly how. Keep being inundated with notices, many
people are likely to just start ignoring all of the notices. This is a
problem for a lot of things, though.

-I


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen

[Anna Stillwell]

Well done.
/a

On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 1:02 AM, Isla Haddow-Flood 
wrote:

> The wonders of this community! Love that 160 people contributed to the
> #16WikiWomen!!
>
> On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 at 19:36 Florence Devouard 
> wrote:
>
> > And... magically... just today, I got the query data thanks to Amanda,
> > EricB and Roan ! Thanks a lot !
> >
> > I copied it here :
> >
> > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1m9Kefc7QE3Ler7955vK4BMk1NK2XM
> rivw99K06_9GFE/edit?usp=sharing
> >
> > So in the end, we had 160 unique participants alltogether !
> >
> > Flo
> >
> > Le 17/03/2017 à 14:11, Florence Devouard a écrit :
> > > Hello everyone
> > >
> > >
> > > Time for some feedback about the #16WikiWomen translation drive !
> > >
> > > The #16WikiWomen translate-a-thon was largely successful ! It not only
> > > contributed more content for Wikipedia, but also visibility about the
> > > African women gap !
> > >
> > > Some figures
> > >
> > > * Overall, 116 articles have been created based on translation from the
> > > English version.
> > > * Out of those, 64 are basically a near equivalent of the master
> article
> > > in terms of quality
> > > * Additionally, 39 previously existing article versions have been
> > improved
> > > * The overall number of languages concerned is 44 (+ English)
> > > * Several communities created local pages on their own wiki to
> > > coordinate the effort (nice !)
> > > * The most active linguistic communities to participate to produce high
> > > quality content were French, Spanish, Catalan, Hebrew. We also had good
> > > participation rates from Dutch, Portuguese, Punjabi, Swahili and very
> > > cool content from Igbo, Yoruba, Creole Haitien etc. (please do not be
> > > offended if I do not cite all languages ;))
> > > * Half a dozen other articles were also suggested and though they
> raised
> > > less interest from translators, they are now noticed...
> > > * Whilst we have not been able to figure out exactly how many people
> > > participated, 54 people self reported participating to the
> > > translate-a-thon ! Awesome !
> > >
> > > I hope everybody enjoyed it.
> > >
> > >
> > > If I may share some "organizational feedback with you"
> > >
> > > 1) It is quite challenging to actually communicate with many linguistic
> > > communities. As much as I was motivated, trying to actually post
> > > information on a wiki where I do not recognise anything (like Hebrew or
> > > Arabic ...)... very tough
> > >
> > > 2) I have not been able to identify someone who could help me do the
> > > query that would allow to know how many people participated. I really
> > > tried... but failed. I must say I found that very frustrating to know
> > > that the info is out there but I do not have the skills to do the query
> > > myself and not able to find someone to help within two months. Missing
> > > something here
> > >
> > > 3) Much to my dismay, many people obviously did not use the translation
> > > feature. I had put a very visible link though. Weird
> > >
> > > Thank you to all those who participated or relayed the information
> about
> > > the drive around.
> > >
> > > Next steps: we plan to do... booksmarks... with the ladies biographies
> ;)
> > >
> > > Florence
> > >
> > >
> > > Le 20/02/2017 à 11:10, Florence Devouard a écrit :
> > >> In the run up to International Women’s Day on the 8th March, Wiki
> Loves
> > >> Women is launching the on-Wikipedia translation drive #16WikiWomen.
> > >>
> > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon
> > >>
> > >> The idea is for Wikipedians to take 16 days to make translate the
> > >> Wikipedia biographies on 16 notable African women, into at least 16
> > >> languages (African or international languages).
> > >>
> > >> The articles to be translated will be the biographies of African
> women.
> > >> The list of language can be, but is not limited to:
> > >> * International languages: Arabic, English, French, Spanish,
> Portuguese,
> > >> Mandarin, German
> > >> * African languages: Akan, Afrikaans, Igbo, Hausa, Wolof, Tswana,
> Zulu,
> > >> Xhosa, Shona, Swahili, Yoruba, Sudanese, Amharic, Tsonga, Ewe,
> Sesotho,
> > >> Chichewa
> > >>
> > >> The list of the 16 women biographies that will be translated are:
> > >> * Malouma, a Mauritanian singer, songwriter and politician
> > >> * Nozizwe Madlala-Routledge, a South African politician. The best
> > >> initial version was in French
> > >> * Cri-Zelda Brits, a South African cricketer
> > >> * Anna Tibaijuka, a Tanzanian politician and former
> > >> under-secretary-general of the United Nations
> > >> * Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti, a Nigerian women’s rights activist
> > >> * Flora Nwapa, a Nigerian author who writes predominantly in Igbo
> > >> * Samia Yusuf Omar, Sprinter from Somalia
> > >> * Maggie Laubser, a South African painter
> > >> * Fatima Massaquoi, a pioneering educator from Liberia
> > >> * Frances Ames, a South African neurologist, psychiatrist, and human
> > >> rights activist
>

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Picture of the Year | 2016 | voting open

[Steinsplitter Wiki]

>>I dont understand why this picture :
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Feixina_Park_Torrent_de_Sa_Riera_Basti%C3%B2_de_Sant_Pere_Palma_de_Mallorca.jpg
is in the birds category :


Sorting error. It has been moved to the correct category. Thank you :-)

--Steinsplitter

Von: Wikimedia-l  im Auftrag von 
Lionel Allorge 
Gesendet: Samstag, 18. März 2017 14:10
An: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Betreff: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Picture of the Year | 2016 | voting open

Hi,

> We are happy to announce that the 2016 Picture of the Year competition is now 
> open.

Thank you. It is always a pleasure to vote for those very good pictures.

> For your convenience, we have sorted the images into topic categories.

Great !

I dont understand why this picture :
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Feixina_Park_Torrent_de_Sa_Riera_Basti%C3%B2_de_Sant_Pere_Palma_de_Mallorca.jpg
is in the birds category :
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Picture_of_the_Year/2016/R1/Gallery/Birds

Regards.
--
Lionel Allorge
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Lune Rouge : http://www.lunerouge.org
Wikimedia France : http://wikimedia.fr

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Picture of the Year | 2016 | voting open

[Lionel Allorge]

Hi,

> We are happy to announce that the 2016 Picture of the Year competition is now 
> open.

Thank you. It is always a pleasure to vote for those very good pictures.

> For your convenience, we have sorted the images into topic categories.

Great !

I dont understand why this picture :
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Feixina_Park_Torrent_de_Sa_Riera_Basti%C3%B2_de_Sant_Pere_Palma_de_Mallorca.jpg
is in the birds category :
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Picture_of_the_Year/2016/R1/Gallery/Birds

Regards.
-- 
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Lune Rouge : http://www.lunerouge.org
Wikimedia France : http://wikimedia.fr

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Board Recruitment Kick-Off: Changes to the Timeline

[Rogol Domedonfors]

Christophe

Thanks for that.  You write

we are actively working on trying to reduce
> the mandatory time board members have to allocate to WMF. Goal is between
> this year and next year to lower it down to what we benchmarked as average
> (and I can't find the number again, I'll dig into that).


The adverts you are already running say "the time commitment for standard
service is roughly 75 hours per year".  Presumaby you mean that you will
reduce it from that figure to some lower figure over the next year?

There are some optional activities that are already failing to get
sufficient effort to make them worthwhile: I'm thinking in particular of
dialogue at the Wikimedia Foundation Board noticeboard on Meta,
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard
Perhaps you should bite the bullet here and close it down?  Already
previous and current Board members have commented that it was not
sustainable.  Of course I would encourage you to find some alternative
mechanism, one that you can and will sustain, for serious strategic
engagement between Board and Community.

"Rogol"
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[Wikimedia-l] Picture of the Year | 2016 | voting open

[Steinsplitter Wiki]

Dear Wikimedians,

We are happy to announce that the 2016 Picture of the Year competition is now 
open.

Hundreds of images that have been rated Featured Pictures by the international 
Wikimedia Commons community. From professional animal and plant shots to 
breathtaking panoramas and skylines, historically relevant images, images 
portraying the world's best architecture, maps created with the most modern 
technology, Commons features pictures of all flavors.

For your convenience, we have sorted the images into topic categories. Two 
rounds of voting will be held: In the first round, you can vote for as many 
images as you like. The first round category winners and the top ten overall 
will then make it to the final. In the final round, when a limited number of 
images are left, you must decide on the one image that you want to become the 
Picture of the Year.

To see the candidate images just go to the POTY 2016 page on Wikimedia Commons: 
 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Picture_of_the_Year/2016

Round 1 will end 30 March 2017, 23:59:59.

Thanks,
POTY 2016 committee

Note: Users must vote with an account meeting following requirements: 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Picture_of_the_Year/2016/Rules

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen

[Isla Haddow-Flood]

The wonders of this community! Love that 160 people contributed to the
#16WikiWomen!!

On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 at 19:36 Florence Devouard  wrote:

> And... magically... just today, I got the query data thanks to Amanda,
> EricB and Roan ! Thanks a lot !
>
> I copied it here :
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1m9Kefc7QE3Ler7955vK4BMk1NK2XMrivw99K06_9GFE/edit?usp=sharing
>
> So in the end, we had 160 unique participants alltogether !
>
> Flo
>
> Le 17/03/2017 à 14:11, Florence Devouard a écrit :
> > Hello everyone
> >
> >
> > Time for some feedback about the #16WikiWomen translation drive !
> >
> > The #16WikiWomen translate-a-thon was largely successful ! It not only
> > contributed more content for Wikipedia, but also visibility about the
> > African women gap !
> >
> > Some figures
> >
> > * Overall, 116 articles have been created based on translation from the
> > English version.
> > * Out of those, 64 are basically a near equivalent of the master article
> > in terms of quality
> > * Additionally, 39 previously existing article versions have been
> improved
> > * The overall number of languages concerned is 44 (+ English)
> > * Several communities created local pages on their own wiki to
> > coordinate the effort (nice !)
> > * The most active linguistic communities to participate to produce high
> > quality content were French, Spanish, Catalan, Hebrew. We also had good
> > participation rates from Dutch, Portuguese, Punjabi, Swahili and very
> > cool content from Igbo, Yoruba, Creole Haitien etc. (please do not be
> > offended if I do not cite all languages ;))
> > * Half a dozen other articles were also suggested and though they raised
> > less interest from translators, they are now noticed...
> > * Whilst we have not been able to figure out exactly how many people
> > participated, 54 people self reported participating to the
> > translate-a-thon ! Awesome !
> >
> > I hope everybody enjoyed it.
> >
> >
> > If I may share some "organizational feedback with you"
> >
> > 1) It is quite challenging to actually communicate with many linguistic
> > communities. As much as I was motivated, trying to actually post
> > information on a wiki where I do not recognise anything (like Hebrew or
> > Arabic ...)... very tough
> >
> > 2) I have not been able to identify someone who could help me do the
> > query that would allow to know how many people participated. I really
> > tried... but failed. I must say I found that very frustrating to know
> > that the info is out there but I do not have the skills to do the query
> > myself and not able to find someone to help within two months. Missing
> > something here
> >
> > 3) Much to my dismay, many people obviously did not use the translation
> > feature. I had put a very visible link though. Weird
> >
> > Thank you to all those who participated or relayed the information about
> > the drive around.
> >
> > Next steps: we plan to do... booksmarks... with the ladies biographies ;)
> >
> > Florence
> >
> >
> > Le 20/02/2017 à 11:10, Florence Devouard a écrit :
> >> In the run up to International Women’s Day on the 8th March, Wiki Loves
> >> Women is launching the on-Wikipedia translation drive #16WikiWomen.
> >>
> >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon
> >>
> >> The idea is for Wikipedians to take 16 days to make translate the
> >> Wikipedia biographies on 16 notable African women, into at least 16
> >> languages (African or international languages).
> >>
> >> The articles to be translated will be the biographies of African women.
> >> The list of language can be, but is not limited to:
> >> * International languages: Arabic, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese,
> >> Mandarin, German
> >> * African languages: Akan, Afrikaans, Igbo, Hausa, Wolof, Tswana, Zulu,
> >> Xhosa, Shona, Swahili, Yoruba, Sudanese, Amharic, Tsonga, Ewe, Sesotho,
> >> Chichewa
> >>
> >> The list of the 16 women biographies that will be translated are:
> >> * Malouma, a Mauritanian singer, songwriter and politician
> >> * Nozizwe Madlala-Routledge, a South African politician. The best
> >> initial version was in French
> >> * Cri-Zelda Brits, a South African cricketer
> >> * Anna Tibaijuka, a Tanzanian politician and former
> >> under-secretary-general of the United Nations
> >> * Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti, a Nigerian women’s rights activist
> >> * Flora Nwapa, a Nigerian author who writes predominantly in Igbo
> >> * Samia Yusuf Omar, Sprinter from Somalia
> >> * Maggie Laubser, a South African painter
> >> * Fatima Massaquoi, a pioneering educator from Liberia
> >> * Frances Ames, a South African neurologist, psychiatrist, and human
> >> rights activist
> >> * Asmaa Mahfouz, a Egyptian activist. The best version is currently in
> >> Arabic
> >> * Yaa Asantewaa, the legendary former Queen Mother of Ghana
> >> * Fatou Bensouda, a Gambian lawyer
> >> * Martha Karua, a Kenyan politician
> >> * Chinwendu Ihezuo, a Nigerian professional footballer
> >> * Nassima Saif

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Board Recruitment Kick-Off: Changes to the Timeline

[Christophe Henner]

Hey,

Many topics covered here :)

1. Paid vs. unpaid: I don't know of the legal situation, but I always felt
that for a NGO it is better to have a volunteer board. Especially for us as
our movement is built thanks to volunteers. I fear it would slightly hinder
our message if trustees were paid. But, when we need a specific expertise,
then we can pay for it. But not as a trustee, as an expert helping us on a
specific matter;

2. Time comitment. So on that, we are actively working on trying to reduce
the mandatory time board members have to allocate to WMF. Goal is between
this year and next year to lower it down to what we benchmarked as average
(and I can't find the number again, I'll dig into that). That work started
after a discussion with Guy on the fact that the time comitment was so high
we migh scare away high profiles. So working to get mandatory board time
down.
But there's also "non-mandatory" time comitment. I can only speak for me,
but right now, it takes me from 2h in the day up to 6h, almost everyday. I
try to have Sundays when I don't work (either for my job or wikimedia). In
that I do include reading (scanning for some mailing lists) emails.

Right now, I think that the most complicated thing to handle is travel
times as you need to take almost a week off every time we travel abroad.
But until we invent teleportation (that would be super cool), I can't see a
way to change that.

3. Staff support to the board : We already have some. First, as the
treasurer and secretary roles are filled by staff members, it unburden
board members a lot. On top of that, we also benefit from support from each
department on a needs basis. Travels are taken care of by staff, I'm
working on slides now, I could ask the communication department to help me
on that. Anna and Michelle work a lot with Natalia on board recruitement.

To be fair, staff does a lot of heavy lifting for us already.

What is true however is that we don't have one personn fully assigned to
support the board. But I'm not sure it is needed right now. That might be a
discussion worth having.

4. Appointed seats "quality": yes we are looking for great board members.
And that is also why we need more time than one could expect.



Christophe HENNER
Chair of the board of trustees
chen...@wikimedia.org
+33650664739

twitter *@schiste*skype *christophe_henner*



On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 3:52 AM, Pine W  wrote:

> Hi James,
>
> Two points:
>
> 1. Intrinsic motivation, at this point, appears to be inadequate for
> increasing the population of the Wikimedia volunteer community. I am
> skeptical that we should rely on the same mechanism which isn't working in
> the volunteer community to fill slots on the WMF Board, which also seems to
> be struggling to fill its ranks.
>
> 2. I think that there's some grey between fully intrinsic and fully
> extrinsic motivation. For example, there are a number WMF employees to
> which WMF pays $100,000+ compensation packages. Yet we don't complain that
> their motivations are extrinsic and incompatible with the Wikimedia
> mission. WMF pays them that level of compensation to encourage them to stay
> with WMF instead of working for another organization (probably a for-profit
> one) which would likely pay them similar levels of compensation. It seems
> to me that if WMF is struggling to attract the quantity and quality of
> Board members that it needs, then compensation is a reasonable option to
> consider.
>
> Responding to Pete: although it's unusual for nonprofit board members to be
> paid, as far as I can see the practice isn't forbidden. I imagine that WMF
> Legal could provide guidance about what is and isn't allowed. Whether
> whether it's allowed and whether it should actually happen are, of course,
> two different questions. A resource that I find instructive is
> https://www.asaecenter.org/resources/articles/an_plus/
> 2015/december/should-board-members-of-nonprofit-
> organizations-be-compensated,
> which provides a list of pros and cons for providing compensation to Board
> members. One of the points that they make is along similar lines as Lane's:
> that providing compensation could increase the diversity of candidates. A
> point that I think is also worth making is that if Board members are
> compensated then expectations should be proportionately greater for their
> performance and attendance to Board matters; I don't want anything like a
> repeat of the situation that happened with Lila in which the WMF Board
> seems to have been asleep at the wheel. Given that current Board members
> seem to be struggling with their workloads, I think that exploring the pros
> and cons of compensating WMF Board members is worth serious consideration.
>
> I like the idea of the Board having its own staff separate from the ED.
> This would be similar to how legislative bodies are supported by their own
> staff which is separate from the executive branch. If this kind of support
> would be adequate to address the pr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Board Recruitment Kick-Off: Changes to the Timeline

[Rogol Domedonfors]

Pine,

By the same argument, then, the Foundation should be compensating the
unpaid volunteers who actually create the content of the projects, and
supporting them with the tools and resources they need to do that work.

"Rogol"

On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 2:52 AM, Pine W  wrote:

> Hi James,
>
> Two points:
>
> 1. Intrinsic motivation, at this point, appears to be inadequate for
> increasing the population of the Wikimedia volunteer community. I am
> skeptical that we should rely on the same mechanism which isn't working in
> the volunteer community to fill slots on the WMF Board, which also seems to
> be struggling to fill its ranks.
>
> 2. I think that there's some grey between fully intrinsic and fully
> extrinsic motivation. For example, there are a number WMF employees to
> which WMF pays $100,000+ compensation packages. Yet we don't complain that
> their motivations are extrinsic and incompatible with the Wikimedia
> mission. WMF pays them that level of compensation to encourage them to stay
> with WMF instead of working for another organization (probably a for-profit
> one) which would likely pay them similar levels of compensation. It seems
> to me that if WMF is struggling to attract the quantity and quality of
> Board members that it needs, then compensation is a reasonable option to
> consider.
>
> Responding to Pete: although it's unusual for nonprofit board members to be
> paid, as far as I can see the practice isn't forbidden. I imagine that WMF
> Legal could provide guidance about what is and isn't allowed. Whether
> whether it's allowed and whether it should actually happen are, of course,
> two different questions. A resource that I find instructive is
> https://www.asaecenter.org/resources/articles/an_plus/
> 2015/december/should-board-members-of-nonprofit-
> organizations-be-compensated,
> which provides a list of pros and cons for providing compensation to Board
> members. One of the points that they make is along similar lines as Lane's:
> that providing compensation could increase the diversity of candidates. A
> point that I think is also worth making is that if Board members are
> compensated then expectations should be proportionately greater for their
> performance and attendance to Board matters; I don't want anything like a
> repeat of the situation that happened with Lila in which the WMF Board
> seems to have been asleep at the wheel. Given that current Board members
> seem to be struggling with their workloads, I think that exploring the pros
> and cons of compensating WMF Board members is worth serious consideration.
>
> I like the idea of the Board having its own staff separate from the ED.
> This would be similar to how legislative bodies are supported by their own
> staff which is separate from the executive branch. If this kind of support
> would be adequate to address the problems of Board recruitment (which I
> doubt) then I'd say to go for it. It might be worthwhile exploring this
> option in tandem with exploring the option of compensating Board members.
>
> Pine
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