Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia mocks expert contributor

Usually a good idea to cite your source for a quotation that may be controversial, or where the source may not be obvious. (Yes, this is common sense, but common sense is not as common as it is touted to be. (as we all know, or do we?)) Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

2017-11-29 23:45 GMT+02:00 Mathieu Stumpf Guntz < psychosl...@culture-libre.org>: > Now, what would be the additional cost of storing sources in > Wikidata? Well, zero cost. Actually, it's already here as the > "reference" attribute is part of the Wikibase item structure. So >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

Saluton Nicolas, Le 30/11/2017 à 00:23, Nicolas VIGNERON a écrit : Mathieu, I know you and like you personally, that why I can say that this mail is clearly not your best argument. Despite saying multiple times this is not a manifesto nor against Wikidata, your mail seems clearly fuelled

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

2017-11-30 11:46 GMT+02:00 mathieu stumpf guntz < psychosl...@culture-libre.org>: >> Nobody suggest in no way to do license laundering nor to violates Wiktionaries licence, > > It's not suggestion, it's what Wikidata is already doing with Wikipedia, despite the initial statement of Wikidata

[Wikimedia-l] Call for Scholarship Committee, Help wanted for new applicants and African community

Dear Wikimaniacs, we are now calling for the Scholarship Committee. The Scholarship Committee is an important and diverse group of volunteers who help to run the scholarship program. We encourage people from all Wikimedia wikis to apply for this position so that the committee can handle

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Call for Scholarship Committee, Help wanted for new applicants and African community

Some links are broken but should forward now to the right places. However, please send us mails to wikimania-scholarsh...@wikimedia.org and not to whatever is linked there. Sorry about that. Please help us spread the word, thank you! Best,Martin Von: Martin Rulsch

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

Hello Markus, First rest assured that any feedback provided will be integrated in the research project on the topic with proper references, including this email. It might not come before beginning of next week however, as I'm already more than fully booked until then. But once again it's on a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

My reference was to in-place discussions at WMDE, not the open meetings with Markus. Each week we had an open demo where Markus usually attended. As I remember the May-discussion, it was just a discussion in the office, there was a reference to an earlier meeting. It is although easy to mix up old

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

Le 30/11/2017 à 11:04, Amir E. Aharoni a écrit : 2017-11-30 11:46 GMT+02:00 mathieu stumpf guntz < psychosl...@culture-libre.org>: promises of Wikidata team regarding respect of licenses can not be trusted. So even if they suggested that that kind of massive import won't be done, it wouldn't be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

Just to make it clear; the discussions at the dev-project was in April-May 2012, linking of wd-items on site late in 29 October 2012 (actually 29. October), Danny told us about his new Google job in January 2013. I believe someone must have gotten this backwards.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

> Le 30 nov. 2017 à 00:50, James Hare a écrit : > > On November 29, 2017 at 3:33:47 PM, Scott MacLeod ( > worlduniversityandsch...@gmail.com) wrote: > > Dear Lydia, Mathieu, Nicolas and All, > > I'm seeking a clarification here to "An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of Gabriele Theren and Peter Dewald to the WMDE Board of Trustees

Thanks Cornelius! Why am I not surprised that you would have the precise documentation already prepared :-) p.s. Sandra: understood. this is what I mean by the legal contexts being different for how boards are formed but the desire being [approximately] the same. wittylama.com Peace, love &

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of Gabriele Theren and Peter Dewald to the WMDE Board of Trustees

Dear Gabriele and Peter, Welcome! Best regards, antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv *NOTICE: You may have received this message outside of your normal working hours/days, as I usually can work more as a volunteer during weekend. You should not feel obligated to answer it during your days off. Thank you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of Gabriele Theren and Peter Dewald to the WMDE Board of Trustees

Thank you for this information Tim, and welcome Peter, and Gabriele! I know that the boards of Wikimedia- Germany, France, UK and Netherlands have "appointed" seats (also known as "external" or "expert" seats), and so too does the WMF. I assume that the formal legal process for these are all

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of Gabriele Theren and Peter Dewald to the WMDE Board of Trustees

Congratulations, Peter and Gabriele, and WMDE. Liam, to your question, at least one other chapter has appointed board members: Wikimedia Israel. A. On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 5:36 AM Liam Wyatt wrote: > Thank you for this information Tim, and welcome Peter, and Gabriele!

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of Gabriele Theren and Peter Dewald to the WMDE Board of Trustees

These sound like amazing choices for the board. Congratulations and welcome! On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 7:47 AM Tim Moritz Hector < tim-moritz.hec...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > Dear all, > > I am delighted to announce that Wikimedia Deutschland’s Board has taken the > opportunity to appoint two new

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

Le 30/11/2017 à 08:57, Luca Martinelli a écrit : I basically stopped reading this email after the first attack to Denny. That's sad to read, but I guess I must mostly blame my unfortunate formulations. I was there since the beginning, and I do recall the *extensive* discussion about what

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

Maybe, instead of thinking about CC0 vs CC-BY-SA, we should try to think at the goal: how can we, as a movement, "fight" the exploitation from over-the-top players of community-generated content? Of course, license is the primary tool every one of us thinks about. But (and please correct me if

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

Hi Mathieu, I understand you care a lot about this topic and are posting about it in many places but I have a personal rule that a lot of the people in Wikidata know. I am willing to discuss and explain basically anything on a calm and rational basis. (And I did this on-wiki I believe.) The rule

[Wikimedia-l] Appointment of Gabriele Theren and Peter Dewald to the WMDE Board of Trustees

Dear all, I am delighted to announce that Wikimedia Deutschland’s Board has taken the opportunity to appoint two new members for the first time. Dr. Gabriele Theren and Peter Dewald are taking appointed seats in our board. After our general assembly decided to make way for up to 3 appointed

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of Gabriele Theren and Peter Dewald to the WMDE Board of Trustees

Hi all, just a short rectification: We have up to 2 (not 3) appointed seats in the board. So in total our board consists of 9 members: 7 elected by the general assembly and 2 appointed. I am happy that now, with the appointment of Gabriele and Peter, we have all seats on our board filled. Best

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

Le 30/11/2017 à 10:13, Egon Willighagen a écrit : Dear Mathieu, On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:45 PM, Mathieu Stumpf Guntz > wrote: I forward here the message I initially posted on the Meta Tremendous Wiktionary User

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

Hi, Did not read your whole argument, but as a collection of brute facts, it is hard to see how the content of wikidata could be in something else than public domain. As a whole, the database could present a Sui generis database right (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sui_generis_database_right) ,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

You can copyright an expression about facts, but you can't copyright the facts. In some jurisdictions a collection of facts can be given a special protection, but still the individual facts are not protected. >>A single property licensing scheme would allow storage of data, >>it might or might

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

Le 30/11/2017 à 12:14, Andrea Zanni a écrit : Maybe, instead of thinking about CC0 vs CC-BY-SA, we should try to think at the goal: how can we, as a movement, "fight" the exploitation from over-the-top players of community-generated content? Thank you for enlightening this surely far better

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

Scott, The NC license clause is problematic in a number of jurisdictions. For example, at least in Germany, as I remember from my law classes, it also would definitively include not-for-profits, NGOs, and even say bloggers, with or without ads on their sites. One must always be careful in the