[Wikimedia-l] WCNA 2019: Nov 8-11 in Boston / Submissions + Scholarships open!

Hello, For those interested, WikiConference North America 2019 will be taking place in Boston, Massachusetts on Friday, November 8 through Monday, November 11! https://wikiconference.org/wiki/2019/Main_Page Plans are under way for our annual Culture Crawl, hackathon and programming days. We're

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

I agree with Fae. I strongly oppose the proposal, and I somehow used to assume that our opinion would be asked in a structured way. Cheers Yaroslav On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 7:03 PM Fæ wrote: > If the WMF is going to make statements that are not derived from all > the demonstrable facts, perhaps

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

We sometimes spend several minutes trying to explain to potentials partners the difference between Wikipedia and Wikimedia and the relationship between them. In most cases we just use "Wikipedia" so as to not confuse them. Of course some people would share an opposing view for many reasons but I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

I think a rebranding to Wikipedia is the best branding option but, at the same time, I aknowledge that this can cause a wide variety of problems to so many people inside our community that doing it without a plan to give safety (not only legal, as their lives could be compromised) is a bigger

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

I think it's a fine idea. I know that nobody knows what "Wikimedia means", and see value to moving at least the Foundation's name towards a more recognizable brand. I also see valid points being raised from the community, such as the distinction between Wikipedia and WikiBooks, -Versity, -Source,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

Hi all, I think the problem arises from the lack of transparency about Wikimedia Foundation's intent to hire a consulting firm for a rebranding advice. This is a major thing that affects our entire movement and thousands of contributors who self-identify with the brand names that we currently

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

Yet another potentially good idea from the Foundation killed by the usual atrocious style of stakeholder management. No benefits framed for the community, no indication that this change is coming from the bottom up, no assurance that this change happens or not based on the results of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

After the last disastrous WMF intervention in Wikipedia - Framgate - I believe the timing is just perfect for the WMF to go forward with this fit of creativity of branding themselves as the "Wikipedia Foundation". It's one after another, and never stops. Best, Paulo Yaroslav Blanter escreveu

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

Pe vineri, 6 septembrie 2019, Adrian Raddatz a scris: > Yet another potentially good idea from the Foundation killed by the usual > atrocious style of stakeholder management. No benefits framed for the > community, > > no indication that this change is coming from the bottom up, Huh? Have

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

I agree that an RFC would be a reasonable way forward. > On Sep 6, 2019, at 10:02 AM, Fæ wrote: > > If the WMF is going to make statements that are not derived from all > the demonstrable facts, perhaps the community should now respond with > a completely unambiguous RFC on meta so there

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Departing the WMF, the Future of The Wikipedia Library, and What's Next?

Jake, we are really going to miss you. You are an inspiration and a role model. Today, I am happy to say that the discussion we had in 2015 about building an active Wikimedia movement/community in Nigeria was productive. After the discussion we had, I began to contact Wikipedia editors from

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

Hi Pine - Thanks for your questions. We set out to measure community appetite for this change, knowing that it is something we share as our Movement's identity and therefore something that needs broad support. On Meta-Wiki, we shared our consultation metrics for assessing that support and/or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

If the WMF is going to make statements that are not derived from all the demonstrable facts, perhaps the community should now respond with a completely unambiguous RFC on meta so there can be no doubt? Something along the lines of: "The WMF have employed Wolff Olins for rebranding advice, and

[Wikimedia-l] Departing the WMF, the Future of The Wikipedia Library, and What's Next?

Dear Wiki-Friends, September 6th marks the end of my time at the Wikimedia Foundation. At my center has been the belief that I serve the movement above all else. This was what motivated the creation of a research service for editors in the first place. Today, it leaves me to look outside the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

Hi, I agree with Pine. There is a majority of people who actually oppose the rebranding proposition. I don't quite understand why this is still going forward (except that it is difficult to acknowledge a mistake and take steps backwards - but it is sometimes necessary). Have other options even