Re: [Wikimedia-l] Universal Code of Conduct Drafting Committee - Call for participation

I agree with Cieli. I have had the privilege to speak to people offline to get their view on the proposed UCoc. This includes people on this list who are not native speakers of the English language and not willing to openly engage in a discussion about it. Many of them are interested in seeing the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Universal Code of Conduct Drafting Committee - Call for participation

Yaroslav did, and again the Framwiki case was mentioned. And while I do realise this bruised and scarred the relationship between the English community and the WMF, please realise the UCoC could benefit a lot of other communities. Those who are not vocal on this list, and are just the silent

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Universal Code of Conduct Drafting Committee - Call for participation

Hello Ciell, These discussions took place on meta, not on en.wp. I don't believe anyone has brought up the English Wikipedia in particular. Todd On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 11:08 AM Ciell Wikipedia wrote: > Hi, > > Since this is about a Universal Code of Conduct, please do not focus this > thread

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Universal Code of Conduct Drafting Committee - Call for participation

Hi, Since this is about a Universal Code of Conduct, please do not focus this thread on the English language Wikipedia alone. Ciell Op vr 31 jul. 2020 18:25 schreef Aron Manning : > As firmly endorsed by 41 community members (out of thousands) in the ToU > for WMF > < >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Universal Code of Conduct Drafting Committee - Call for participation

As firmly endorsed by 41 community members (out of thousands) in the ToU for WMF discussion, I think we can agree that the Terms of Use (and also the Code of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Universal Code of Conduct Drafting Committee - Call for participation

It is known and widely recognized that online communities were excluded from the strategy process. There was no way one could open RfC on the process, and no approval of the strategy by the editing communities. This has to be fixed now. It is difficult to fix, because there are already too many

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Universal Code of Conduct Drafting Committee - Call for participation

If you choose to not take active part in he strategy process it it your privilege.  But the fact is that the Strategy is the steering document now for the nearest activities in the Movement. And the endorsments are there to be read. If you had wanted the endorsement to be visible in the form

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Universal Code of Conduct Drafting Committee - Call for participation

Hi Peter, I hear and understand your worries. I’d like to reassure you that we are very aware of the fact that no single person and no selected group of people can speak for the community as a whole. This is one of the big challenges all such efforts have to tackle. Representation here is not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Universal Code of Conduct Drafting Committee - Call for participation

I have read that, but do not see any public RfC nor any individual statements. Todd On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 9:34 AM Anders Wennersten wrote: > Read https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20 > and people involved supporting it and endorsing its different phases > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Universal Code of Conduct Drafting Committee - Call for participation

It was a "no" to having any type of universal code of conduct. You can see the discussion here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations/Iteration_1/Diversity/9#Terms_of_Use_for_the_WMF On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 8:57 AM Dan Garry (Deskana) wrote: >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Universal Code of Conduct Drafting Committee - Call for participation

Read https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20 and people involved supporting it and endorsing its different phases Anders Den 2020-07-31 kl. 17:28, skrev Todd Allen: Where was the public RfC that these "700 individuals" participated in? The one I saw, which took

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Universal Code of Conduct Drafting Committee - Call for participation

Where was the public RfC that these "700 individuals" participated in? The one I saw, which took place on Meta, was, again, a very firm "No". Off-wiki backchanneling stuff doesn't count. Todd On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 9:18 AM Anders Wennersten wrote: > The development of the Code of Conduct is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Universal Code of Conduct Drafting Committee - Call for participation

The development of the Code of Conduct is part of the Strategy. The strategy and this part was endorsed by some 700 individuals representing more or less all parts of the Movement. And that group is the closest we have seen resembling a government body of the movement. But as in a democracy,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Universal Code of Conduct Drafting Committee - Call for participation

On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 at 15:29, Todd Allen wrote: > That was a firm "No" on any Universal Code of Conduct. There shouldn't be a > "drafting committee" for it, it was disapproved. > It's not clear to me what you're referring to here. What is the "that" that was a "firm no"? Dan

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Universal Code of Conduct Drafting Committee - Call for participation

Uh, guys? That was a firm "No" on any Universal Code of Conduct. There shouldn't be a "drafting committee" for it, it was disapproved. Todd On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 11:49 AM Christel Steigenberger < csteigenber...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > > We are happy to announce that the