Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] [PRESS RELEASE] Airtel Offers Nigerians Free Access to Wikipedia

2014-06-03 Thread rupert THURNER
Hi yana, You are right, there is no hostility in my message. You know that wikimedians are very sensitive to follow existing law (especially copyright), and to provide and ask references all the time :) @labs Could you please provide a reference why labs can be misused? @understanding wikimedian

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Signpost is (sort of) published

2014-06-03 Thread Isarra Yos
On 02/06/14 20:14, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 2 June 2014 19:39, Ed Erhart wrote: There is one person in charge of making the final calls of every issue—me. This is troubling, Wikipedia is supposed to be an open, community-driven initiative. We've seen problems in the past with single-person gat

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funds Dissemination Committee seeking nominations for new members

2014-06-03 Thread Katy Love
Greetings, all: Here's a reminder that the FDC staff will be doing an IRC office hours in 12 minutes time (and counting!) about the FDC nominations on the #wikimedia-office channel. [1] We'll hold another office hours later today (though it might be "tomorrow," depending on your timezone) at 16:00

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-03 Thread ???
On 04/06/2014 00:06, Nathan wrote: On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 6:54 PM, ??? wrote: On 03/06/2014 22:35, Nathan wrote: Interesting. Can you link me to a biography where a school detention is the main feature of the article? How about this 8 yo? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Emmanuel_of_

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-03 Thread Nathan
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 6:54 PM, ??? wrote: > On 03/06/2014 22:35, Nathan wrote: > >> >> Interesting. Can you link me to a biography where a school detention is >> the >> main feature of the article? >> > > How about this 8 yo? > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Emmanuel_of_Belgium#Biography >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-03 Thread ???
On 03/06/2014 22:35, Nathan wrote: Interesting. Can you link me to a biography where a school detention is the main feature of the article? How about this 8 yo? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Emmanuel_of_Belgium#Biography What about these other kids? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_L

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quarterly reviews of high priority WMF initiatives

2014-06-03 Thread Tilman Bayer
Minutes and slides from last week's quarterly review of the Foundation's Mobile Contributions team are now available at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetings/Quarterly_reviews/Mobile_contributions/May_2014 . On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: > Hi folks

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-03 Thread Nathan
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 5:23 PM, ??? wrote: > On 03/06/2014 12:53, Mark wrote: > >> On 6/2/14, 10:55 PM, ??? wrote: >> >>> There is no public interest in how many time celeb X got a detention >>> at school for not doing their homework at junior high. >>> >> >> Isn't that the kind of information yo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-03 Thread ???
On 03/06/2014 12:53, Mark wrote: On 6/2/14, 10:55 PM, ??? wrote: There is no public interest in how many time celeb X got a detention at school for not doing their homework at junior high. Isn't that the kind of information you would in fact expect to find in a biography of any kind of public

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-06-03 Thread geni
On 2 June 2014 14:38, Jon Davies wrote: > £2600, our current estimate, seems good value. Some bloke is charging me > £120 to come and tell me my dishwasher is broken > > > These things are hard to calculate. You could however get a Canon EF 180mm f/3.5L Macro and a Tamron 150-600mm for that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] VisualEditor on English Wikipedia

2014-06-03 Thread Keegan Peterzell
Hey Risker, Pine, David, all, On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Risker wrote: > On 3 June 2014 12:25, David Gerard wrote: > > > On 3 June 2014 16:37, Risker wrote: > > > > > Okay, further to what I've said aboveI think that before having an > > RFC, > > > we should seek community assistanc

Re: [Wikimedia-l] VisualEditor on English Wikipedia

2014-06-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 3 June 2014 08:02, ENWP Pine wrote: > I have started to draft an RfC about re-enabling VE on English Wikipedia URL? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] VisualEditor on English Wikipedia

2014-06-03 Thread Risker
On 3 June 2014 12:25, David Gerard wrote: > On 3 June 2014 16:37, Risker wrote: > > > Okay, further to what I've said aboveI think that before having an > RFC, > > we should seek community assistance to carry out a small-scale study so > > that there is some evidence on which people can base

Re: [Wikimedia-l] VisualEditor on English Wikipedia

2014-06-03 Thread Edward Saperia
Sounds like your suggestion would be a perfect contribution to some kind of community discussion to try and decide a framework to decide if or when we might want to re-deploy visual editor, much like Pine was suggesting in the first place :-) *Edward Saperia* Chief Coordinator Wikimania London

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ASBS results

2014-06-03 Thread Alice Wiegand
Thanks to the organizers and facilitators for setting up the process. And congratulations to Frieda and Patricio. I wish both of you every success, strength and support for your work on the Board! Alice. On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Frieda Brioschi wrote: > Wow, I'm breathless :- > > .

Re: [Wikimedia-l] VisualEditor on English Wikipedia

2014-06-03 Thread David Gerard
On 3 June 2014 16:37, Risker wrote: > Okay, further to what I've said aboveI think that before having an RFC, > we should seek community assistance to carry out a small-scale study so > that there is some evidence on which people can base their decisions. This > is what I would suggest. [sn

Re: [Wikimedia-l] VisualEditor on English Wikipedia

2014-06-03 Thread Risker
Thanks Ed. The point I am trying to make is that the community can't make a good decision on this unless they understand the VisualEditor product as it exists today. I think pretty much everyone agrees it wasn't ready for default editing on 1 July 2013, but absent recent data most people would na

Re: [Wikimedia-l] VisualEditor on English Wikipedia

2014-06-03 Thread Risker
On 3 June 2014 09:05, Risker wrote: > > > On 3 June 2014 03:02, ENWP Pine wrote: > >> Because VE has repeatedly been mentioned in this list as something that >> is improving and may help us with acquisition of editors and their >> knowledge, I have started to draft an RfC about re-enabling VE on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-03 Thread Mike Godwin
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Nathan wrote: > Does the ECJ need to establish jurisdiction over Wikimedia or specific users > (presumably only those users directly involved in creating or curating the > content in dispute)? We've seen in some situations in the past (e.g. with > the DCRI and frw

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-03 Thread Nathan
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Mike Godwin wrote: > On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Todd Allen wrote: > > Would WMF, being in the US, need to worry about this to any greater > degree > > than it worries about, say, Chinese publishing restrictions, or UK > > "superinjunctions"? > > First, WMF op

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-03 Thread Mike Godwin
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Chris Keating wrote: >> >> > I don't believe Wikipedia could be a data controller as it has no legal >> > personality, and legal personality is quite difficult to acquire when >> > you >> > set out to avoid acquiring it. >> >> On this point I must disagree. WMF is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-03 Thread Mike Godwin
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Todd Allen wrote: > Would WMF, being in the US, need to worry about this to any greater degree > than it worries about, say, Chinese publishing restrictions, or UK > "superinjunctions"? First, WMF operates globally, and while I took pains as general counsel, just a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] VisualEditor on English Wikipedia

2014-06-03 Thread Risker
On 3 June 2014 03:02, ENWP Pine wrote: > Because VE has repeatedly been mentioned in this list as something that is > improving and may help us with acquisition of editors and their knowledge, > I have started to draft an RfC about re-enabling VE on English Wikipedia. > > I am not proposing any s

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ASBS results

2014-06-03 Thread Frieda Brioschi
Wow, I'm breathless :- ..I've many to thank: * thank you voters for your choice, I'll do my best * thank you Wikimedia Italia for your support, it was really important to me * thank you Patricio, Alice and Anders, it was great sharing this experience with you * thank you Chris, Lorenzo and Jam

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ASBS results

2014-06-03 Thread Anders Wennersten
Congratulations to you Patricio and Frieda! I am very glad to see the thorough support you Patricio got. Having met you during our last three FDC sessions I know that you are worthy of the full confidence the chapters have in you. I am also looking forward to see the renewed Board getting int

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-03 Thread Mark
On 6/2/14, 10:55 PM, ??? wrote: There is no public interest in how many time celeb X got a detention at school for not doing their homework at junior high. Isn't that the kind of information you would in fact expect to find in a biography of any kind of public figure? If I were reading a biogr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ASBS results

2014-06-03 Thread Patricio Lorente
Thank you, chapters and thorgs! I take your decision as a vote of confidence that encourages me to work harder and better. Congratulations, Frieda! I'm really happy to share with you this responsability and I'm looking forward to work with you in the Board. I also need to thank Alice for her work

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ASBS results

2014-06-03 Thread Jon Davies
Yes well done, and thanks to all who stood making this a really difficult choice for us all! On 3 June 2014 08:42, Santi Navarro wrote: > Felicidades Patricio / Auguri Frieda > > -- > Santiago Navarro Sanz > Wikimedia España > http://www.wikimedia.org.es/ > > > _

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ASBS results

2014-06-03 Thread Santi Navarro
Felicidades Patricio / Auguri Frieda -- Santiago Navarro Sanz Wikimedia España http://www.wikimedia.org.es/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscri

[Wikimedia-l] VisualEditor on English Wikipedia

2014-06-03 Thread ENWP Pine
Because VE has repeatedly been mentioned in this list as something that is improving and may help us with acquisition of editors and their knowledge, I have started to draft an RfC about re-enabling VE on English Wikipedia. I am not proposing any specific outcome in the RfC. My goal is to set u