How would this proposed social media service avoid the problems of existing
social media in that they are generally not 'knowledge dissemination services',
but spreaders of opinion, disinformation, and often complete rubbish, with a
random sprinkling of knowledge scattered among the garbage?
On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 12:46 AM, Leinonen Teemu wrote:
> I have been looking for social networking service that would be fair: not
> personal data, funded by community, respecting privacy, accepting anonymity,
> free/libre/ open source etc. Haven’t found many.
I am very disappointed with this decision and announcement.
Surely anyone who has read this notice must be thinking that Brazil is at war,
in wreckage. But that is not true.
Brazil has never produced so much positive impact in our movement as it has
now. Both groups have extensively created
On 9 Apr 2018, at 11.28, Peter Southwood
Why would we want to?
Because we want to "become the essential infrastructure of the ecosystem of
How would it further the aims of the movement?
Eligibility for grants is determined by the Wikimedia Foundation's
community resources department, rather than by the Affiliations Committee.
I imagine that the Wikimedia Foundation may choose to take our decision
into account when evaluating future grant proposals, but it's not
Would you please comment on how these two techniques for creating new
articles affects the quality of ORES models?
You're entirely correct in that we don't want to see the situation in
Brazil remain as it is, and I think there are many potential ways forward
here. Certainly, creating a new user group could be one of them; so could
a collaborative network of smaller, more localized groups, or
We're certainly very aware of the broader context of conflict between
overlapping local groups, and the potential for individuals to misuse the
user group model as a vehicle for attacking existing affiliates or
furthering personal disputes among affiliate leaders or members; there have
"Further, the specific individuals who served as the primary contacts for
these user groups will be prohibited from serving as primary contacts for
any user group application or existing user group for a period of one year."
And grant requests? I am not privy to the conflict details, but it seems
You wrote above "all reasonable attempts to resolve the conflict have
failed". It would be interesting to let us have the idea of these
reasonable attempts. Why did you think de-recognizing these groups is the
best decision? What I understood from Tele's comment is that you did
Scoring platform team aims to support more wikis but keeping track of how
much support they need is not easy. This is why we built a tool that
automatically gets updated and shows us an overview of the current support
and specially it shows progress of labelling campaigns in different wikis
Why would we want to? How would it further the aims of the movement? How much
would it cost? Who would run it?
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I have been looking for social networking service that would be fair: not
abusing personal data, funded by community, respecting privacy, accepting
anonymity, free/libre/ open source etc. Haven’t found many. The Diaspora*
Project is not moving forward very fast and the Mastodon is
It makes sense to explain a little bit about the conflict management and
the position of both sides to define why both groups have been
At the opposite this decision will give the feeling that, to attack a local
Group, it will be sufficient to create another local Group
Extremely sad news. I can't comment on the fairness but it does seem like
the best decision has been taken.
On Apr 8, 2018 9:52 PM, "Lucas Teles" wrote:
> That’s very unexpected. I actually have been trying to talk with WMF plenty
> of times and waiting
Could you clarify what would be a path forward from this situation? For
example, would you encourage someone to set up a new application for a user
group in Brazil, if they have a good proposal (and/or proven commitment)
for how to manage the collaboration with the whole Brazilian
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