Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter: Issues needing addressing by the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees

On 28 Feb 2016, at 6:51 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: > > Chris, > > It's good to read you here and on WW. I think you're raising > legitimate points that others have also sought progress on. I would > just suggest one thing. Right now the Wikimedia Foundation is going > through

[Wikimedia-l] Open letter: Issues needing addressing by the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees

Hello all, I have finally decided to subscribe to this mailing list, but I will endeavour to keep my monthly post limits down, as requested :-) == Who am I? == First, some background. My name is Chris Sherlock, and may be better known to some of you as Ta bu shi da yu (or Tbsdy lives

Re: [Wikimedia-l] I am going to San Francisco

> On 28 Feb 2016, at 2:25 PM, Chris Sherlock <chris.sherloc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> On 28 Feb 2016, at 1:16 PM, Andreas Kolbe <jayen...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Anna Stillwell <astillw...@wikimedia.org> >>

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter: Issues needing addressing by the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees

Chris, I think you are misreading something that I wrote. > On 2/28/16 1:03 AM, Chris Sherlock wrote: > > The Jimmy sent an email to the mailing list: > > > >> It was written at a time when there were efforts underway by > >> Patricio to get Ja

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter: Issues needing addressing by the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees

> On 1 Mar 2016, at 3:09 AM, Nathan <nawr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Jimmy - the limit is a "soft limit" of 30 posts per month. If someone goes > well over you might get an e-mail from Austin or another moderator to cut > back, but otherwise there is no need to a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter: Issues needing addressing by the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees

On 1 Mar 2016, at 12:36 AM, Jimmy Wales wrote: > In mid-October, before he emailed the board, James wrote me with a huge > misconception - that we had a secret project to build a Google competing > search engine. Of course we didn't have such a project We had a few >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter: Issues needing addressing by the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees

On 1 Mar 2016, at 2:00 AM, Jimmy Wales <jimmywa...@wikia-inc.com> wrote: > > On 2/29/16 6:46 AM, Chris Sherlock wrote: >> Unfortunately though, the WMF very much did have internal documents >> that were positioning the WMF into building a search engine. In fact, >>

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A quick note about the future

This is actually a fairly easy one to clear up. Basically, it’s the law. Under Fl. St. § 617.0808, which deals with the removal of directors, it clearly states that "Any director who is removed from the board is not eligible to stand for reelection until the next annual meeting at which

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter: Issues needing addressing by the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees

> On 1 Mar 2016, at 11:12 AM, Kevin Smith wrote: > > I think some people aren't realizing the difference between the leaked > presentation (which outlined a general search engine) and the actual grant. > The former was just an idea, while the latter is official. By my

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter: Issues needing addressing by the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees

On 1 Mar 2016, at 5:00 PM, Erik Moeller <eloque...@gmail.com> wrote: > > 2016-02-29 19:24 GMT-08:00 Chris Sherlock <chris.sherloc...@gmail.com>: > >> With the greatest of respect, I'm not sure how could come to the conclusion >> that general >> I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A conversation?

> On 10 Mar 2016, at 8:25 PM, Jimmy Wales wrote: > > On 3/10/16 8:18 AM, Benjamin Lees wrote: >> I was glad when I saw Jimbo indicate he was reaching out to James. At >> the risk of sounding hopelessly naive, maybe Jimbo should send James >> another email, this time

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A conversation?

> On 10 Mar 2016, at 5:18 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: > > 2016-03-09 16:56 GMT-08:00 Pete Forsyth : > >> I feel this message can provide important insight into the dynamics >> surrounding James H.'s dismissal, and various people have expressed >>

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: A conversation?

Sent from my iPad > On 11 Mar 2016, at 9:24 AM, Leila Zia wrote: > > ​If you see that you don't have a healthy line of communication with Jimmy, > you may want to consider not communicating with him at all. Initiating > and/or participating in conversations about someone

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: A conversation?

Sent from my iPad > On 11 Mar 2016, at 6:11 AM, Keegan Peterzell wrote: > ​Kevin, > > You've been touting your experience on Boards in giving advice, and I have > some experience there myself, so let's think of ​it in those Real World > terms: > > Regardless of what

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A quick note about the future

> On 2 Mar 2016, at 5:55 AM, Kevin Gorman wrote: > > Chris: I parse the reference to paragraph (i) in (a.1) as meaning that a > director removed without cause may in fact stand for the next election > cycle. As far as I can tell, James was removed without cause. Every >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter: Issues needing addressing by the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees

> On 2 Mar 2016, at 5:24 AM, Kevin Smith wrote: > >> You can tell me the scope was intended to be only for Wikimedia projects, >> but that isn't what is said in that grant application. That document as it >> stands literally states that it is to be an Internet search

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Using this list to tear people down

> On 3 Mar 2016, at 10:49 AM, Keegan Peterzell wrote: > > There's a quote popularly attributed to Eleanor Roosevelt: > > "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds > discuss people."[0] > > Now, I'm not calling any particular people small

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Using this list to tear people down

> On 3 Mar 2016, at 3:35 PM, Keegan Peterzell wrote: >> >> ​Write words with measured logic and sound emotions. >> >> > ​"Strike that, reverse it." ~ Willy Wonka[0] > > Sound logic and measured emotions. > > 0. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWJo2EZW8yU​ Thank

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open and recorded WMF Board meetings

> On 3 Mar 2016, at 6:22 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: > > To discuss which practices to adopt, it's worth first looking at the > existing Board manual, which is a remarkably detailed document that > goes into many of these issues including the exact process for minutes >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open and recorded WMF Board meetings

On 3 Mar 2016, at 11:36 PM, Chris Keating wrote: >> Sent from my iPhone >> On 3 Mar 2016, at 11:22 PM, Chris Keating >> wrote: >>> >>> Out of interest, Chris, have you ever served on a nonprofit board? >> >> Nope. > If you ever do, I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open and recorded WMF Board meetings

Sent from my iPhone On 3 Mar 2016, at 11:22 PM, Chris Keating wrote: > > Out of interest, Chris, have you ever served on a nonprofit board? Nope. Chris ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open and recorded WMF Board meetings

On 3 Mar 2016, at 10:56 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > > Why would minutes be written after the fact instead of during the meeting > by the designated note taker(s)? > > -- brion And why is the entire board writing up the minutes? In fact, the job of a scribe is to be able

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open and recorded WMF Board meetings

> On 3 Mar 2016, at 5:31 PM, Pine W wrote: > > Circling back to a subject that I've mentioned before, I favor having > meetings of the WMF Board be open and recorded by default, with limited > exceptions for discussions of legally privileged information and other > subjects

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Executive transition planning

Sent from my iPhone > On 5 Mar 2016, at 1:14 PM, Alice Wiegand wrote: > > Hi all, > short update, as announced by Patricio: > > Our organization needs stability, it needs a chance to rest for a moment and > to move on with the things that matter at the same time.

[Wikimedia-l] The end

I've just been blocked forever. I've been bullied, and I'm having suicidal thoughts. I don't know what to do now. Right now I'm reaching out to anyone who might listen. I've been called obsessive, someone who attacks people, I've not been listened to and I've been lectured on policy by

[Wikimedia-l] Disrupting journal publishing

USD shows that for one article it is about 2,150 AHD, or half the monthly wage of an Afghani with a median income! We could step into this space. And we could do our disruption legally, and make things like Sci-Hub less necessary for those in countries who cannot afford the extraordinary prices of jou

[Wikimedia-l] Sexual harassment

Hello all, I have been advised by the WMF that if anyone is concerned about being sexually harassed they must report this to AN/I and there are no private mechanisms to report this sort of thing. Is this for real? Chris Sherlock Sent from my iPhone

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sexual harassment

be the Administrator's board for incidents. I hope the above is helpful.” Chris Sent from my iPhone > On 24 Aug 2020, at 6:43 am, Chris Sherlock wrote: > > Hello all, > > I have been advised by the WMF that if anyone is concerned about being > sexually harassed they must r

[Wikimedia-l] Protest

I don’t have much to say, so I will try to make this short. I have been told that I have “invoked [my] mental heath as a weapon”, and that I should “stop whining”. The full, unedifying, thread can be viewed here: