Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright workflows - research (Was: Re: Foundation management of volunteers)

2019-06-18 Thread Yann Forget
rounge up the money for a trial 6 month trial. > > James > > On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 2:59 AM Yann Forget wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Yes, James' pricing doesn't match the actual cost. > > We do not need to check all images uploaded to Commons, only the >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright workflows - research (Was: Re: Foundation management of volunteers)

2019-06-18 Thread Yann Forget
/cloud.google.com/vision/pricing > > Above that quantity "Contact Google for more information": > > https://cloud.google.com/contact/ > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 8:23 AM James Forrester > wrote: > > > > On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 at 06:28, Yann F

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright workflows - research (Was: Re: Foundation management of volunteers)

2019-06-17 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, It has been suggested many times to ask Google for an access to their API for searching images, so that we could have a bot tagging copyright violations (no free access for automated search). That would the single best improvement in Wikimedia Commons workflow for years. And it would benefit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-14 Thread Yann Forget
Le mar. 14 mai 2019 à 15:32, Andy Mabbett a écrit : > On Tue, 14 May 2019 at 04:50, Yann Forget wrote: > > > Currently, we require a confirmation via OTRS if an image was previously > > published elsewhere before being uploaded to Commons. > > Really? can you provid

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-13 Thread Yann Forget
and me as a photograper taking pictures for Commons? Is it the > name written om the lens? The shoes I'm wearing? > > There are no difference, this is a fallacy. > > John Erling Blad > /jeblad > > > tir. 14. mai 2019, 05.50 skrev Yann Forget : > > > Hi, > > &

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-13 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, Currently, we require a confirmation via OTRS if an image was previously published elsewhere before being uploaded to Commons. I think professional photographers should have their account confirmed by OTRS. Regards, Yann Forget Jai Jagat 2020 Grand March Coordinator https://www.jaijagat2020

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-13 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, Same as for reviewing files. I find more rewarding to work on content that creating and mainting help pages. I should mention that Aymatth2 has done an amazing work on completely reworking the copyright help pages, creating subpages by

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-13 Thread Yann Forget
uploaded by others. I guess most people feel the same. Regards, Yann Forget Jai Jagat 2020 Grand March Coordinator https://www.jaijagat2020.org/ +91-74 34 93 33 58 (also WhatsApp) Le lun. 13 mai 2019 à 11:39, Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga < galder...@hotmail.com> a écrit : > A good question to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-12 Thread Yann Forget
. But only around 30 admins have done most of the work. The content has grown exponentially, but the community has not. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Commons_Growth.svg https://stats.wikimedia.org/v2/#/commons.wikimedia.org/contributing/active-editors/normal|line|All|~total Regards, Yann Forget

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-12 Thread Yann Forget
Hi James, Of course. More admins would lesser the work charge, and it would be great. We specially appreciate admins with multi-language capabilities, as it is a multilangual project. Of course, comprehensive knowledge of copyright is needed. That is complex, but it can be learnt. Regards, Yann

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-12 Thread Yann Forget
This was reverted. It is a dishonest edit with a misleading summary. Regards, Yann Jai Jagat 2020 Grand March Coordinator https://www.jaijagat2020.org/ +91-74 34 93 33 58 (also WhatsApp) Le dim. 12 mai 2019 à 19:59, Andrew Lih a écrit : > This episode exposes a policy of Commons that may be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-12 Thread Yann Forget
Yes, Yaroslav is right. The active community is small compared to the amount of work to be done. I have advocated since long that massive training is needed to fix this. These trainings should be sponsored by the WMF and its affiliates. Regards, Yann Forget Jai Jagat 2020 Grand March

[Wikimedia-l] Hindi Wikisource waiting, developer needed

2019-05-08 Thread Yann Forget
it anymore :( The ticket was opened on March 13th. The community is actively waiting. Some workshops are planned, but postponed because of this issue. So this task should be given to some developer from WMF. Regards, Yann Forget Jai Jagat 2020 Grand March Coordinator https://www.jaijagat2020.org

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata] Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-07-05 Thread Yann Forget
t; over there. I concur totally with analysis. Regards, Yann Forget ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

2017-12-04 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, Any CC license on Wikidata would be like puting a copyright on facts. I obviously strongly object on that, and therefore I also strongly object puting anything other than public domain or CC0 on Wikidata. The whole database could have a copyright in Europe, but I am also strongly against

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

2017-12-04 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, Any CC license on Wikidata would be like puting a copyright on facts. I obviously strongly object on that, and therefore I also strongly object puting anything other than public domain or CC0 on Wikidata. The whole database could have ___

Re: [Wikimedia-l] BLP and the Wikidata / Wikipedia controversy

2017-09-27 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, Related to this is the issue of photographers on Commons: *Should contributors have a Creator template, and then a WD entry? *Should Flickr photographers have a Creator template, and then a WD entry? See discussion at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimédia France

2017-08-03 Thread Yann Forget
2017-08-03 13:47 GMT+02:00 Rémi Mathis : > > To be honest, 25-30% of WMFR members is quite a lot. And, don't > > forget, include roughly half of the Wikimedia France Board elected at > > the last General Assembly. > > > > This isn't the first governance crisis in the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Réponse à Samuel Legoff, président de Wikimédia France / Answer to Samuel Legoff, president of Wikimedia France

2017-07-18 Thread Yann Forget
by moderating the mailing list and then deleting it seem to be from an old past. The unjustified removal of certain critical members is also unacceptable. I still hope that the Board will come back on these decisions before it is too late. Regards, Yann Forget === Bonjour, Merci Thierry pour ce

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikisource type of site for sheet music at kickstarter

2017-06-23 Thread Yann Forget
And the French Wikisource too. ;) Yann 2017-06-23 10:26 GMT+02:00 Andrea Zanni : > The English Wikisource already has the Lilypond extension to host Sheet > music: > https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Special: > PagesWithProp/score=500 > > AFAIK, though,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] a second commons, prevent cease and desist business

2017-03-05 Thread Yann Forget
, do you think you should have done? > > "Rogol" > > On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 7:45 PM, Yann Forget <yan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I have a personal experience which is worth considering. > > One of my picture uploaded on Com

Re: [Wikimedia-l] a second commons, prevent cease and desist business

2017-03-05 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, I have a personal experience which is worth considering. One of my picture uploaded on Commons under CC-BY-SA was used without attribution by a political party on their website and 2 of their leaflets (printed to more than 10,000 copies each). I contacted them, and they immediately

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Keeping historical documents related to Wikimedia

2017-01-14 Thread Yann Forget
.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Meta:Babel; > diff=prev=13362698#General_discussion_on_allowing_or_rejecting_fair_ > use_at_Meta > > [2] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Licensing_policy > > > > On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Yann Forget <yan...@gmail.com> wrote: &

[Wikimedia-l] Keeping historical documents related to Wikimedia

2017-01-11 Thread Yann Forget
have a formal license, but there is no real copyright issue. Where and how should we keep such files? Regards, Yann Forget ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons Picture of the Year 2015 round 2 voting has started

2016-05-16 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, The FB page owners are Ricky Setiawan and Jens Liebenau. Ricky Setiawan is Member of the Board of Trustees at Wikimedia Indonesia. https://www.facebook.com/Wikimedia.Commons/info/?tab=page_owners Regards, Yann 2016-05-16 10:18 GMT+02:00 Yann Forget <yan...@gmail.com>:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons Picture of the Year 2015 round 2 voting has started

2016-05-16 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, Actually I don't control the FB page. I was just interested to spread awareness of Wikimedia Commons on Facebook. Regards, Yann 2016-05-16 9:07 GMT+02:00 Steinsplitter Wiki : > As far i can see there are two volunteers listed at >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Account of the events leading to James Heilman's removal

2016-05-09 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, I second everything said below. Yann 2016-05-08 5:20 GMT+02:00 Todd Allen : > Denny, > > I appreciate that you've put forth this account. That's in no way facetious > or just a pretext, I am actually very glad to see someone speak to this. > > I'd like, however, to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-15 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, 2015-03-13 5:54 GMT+01:00 MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com: phoebe ayers wrote: (...) Education is apolitical. Education is certainly not apolitical. People with different political opinions support education, but free education like the one promoted by the WMF is certainly more a political

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-10 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, Wow! I am proud to be a volunteer working with an organisation daring to take such steps. I hope that this will bring concrete results. Best regards, Yann 2015-03-10 8:53 GMT+01:00 Michelle Paulson mpaul...@wikimedia.org: Hi All, I’m writing to let you know that today the Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to fix Commons

2014-12-17 Thread Yann Forget
You need to precise that you created a whole farm of sockpuppets, which are all blocked on the English Wikipedia and Commons. For what I know, these socks mostly are pursuing a political agenda about a power game. Yann 2014-12-14 6:49 GMT+01:00 Bruentrup claus.bruent...@gmail.com: Hi One of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to fix Commons

2014-12-17 Thread Yann Forget
Hahaha. Taking the Church of Scientology has an example shows your true face... Yann 2014-12-14 14:30 GMT+01:00 Bruentrup claus.bruent...@gmail.com: And you assert that I personally did all those things ? And you do not acknowledge then IAC is an actual public movement / organisation, with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Re-licensing Wikimedia logos on Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0

2014-10-30 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, Just a note: we can update the license on Commons, but I noticed that the files were copied locally on https://wikimediafoundation.org/ Someone with the right priviledges will have to do it there. Regards, Yann 2014-10-30 17:30 GMT+01:00 Yana Welinder ywelin...@wikimedia.org: Still

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Feedback with Android on Commons

2014-09-09 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, 2014-09-08 10:45 GMT+05:30 Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com: I don't know what you mean by entering an email, but when you add I mean that the application asks how and where do I want to send my report. And could I know that? It seems obvious to me that, once I agree to send a report, the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Feedback with Android on Commons

2014-09-07 Thread Yann Forget
like to join me and Yann, you can install the app on your Android device here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.wikimedia.commonshl=en ,Wil On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am not a mobile user. So for the first time, I used

Re: [Wikimedia-l] To Flow or not to Flow

2014-09-06 Thread Yann Forget
Hi Erik, While I have a lot of reservations about the usefulness of the Media Viewer, I agree with you that talk pages are now inefficient for all and complex for new users. Personally I am willing to try any system which offers the features missing in the current talk pages, specially removing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upload Wizard work (was Re: Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments)

2014-09-06 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, 2014-09-04 12:34 GMT+05:30 Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org: On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com wrote: the most urgent and important thing is to fix the UploadWizard. This is indeed underway, and has been for some time, with focus on bug fixes and code quality

Re: [Wikimedia-l] To Flow or not to Flow

2014-09-06 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, That seems a sensible plan. I am thinking of the help desk on Commons (in English or in another language) as a good testbed. Regards, Yann 2014-09-06 17:09 GMT+05:30 Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org: On Saturday, September 6, 2014, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: So we think a

[Wikimedia-l] Feedback with Android on Commons

2014-09-06 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, I am not a mobile user. So for the first time, I used the Mobile App on a Samsung S4 to upload a few pictures. I am quite disappointed, to say the least. I stopped counting how many times the application crashed while uploading just a few pictures. Then in reviewing my uploads, I can't see

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-09-02 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, Thanks for your message. I think it is honest and useful. 2014-09-01 20:40 GMT+05:30 Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org: ... MV is a perfect example. 99% of the problems it objectively has (we ignore here matters of taste) derive from the difficulty of parsing the multitude

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-08-31 Thread Yann Forget
Hi all, Thank you Erik for your mail. It shows that the WMF is willing to discuss rather than to impose its solution. I am really shocked that the dispute reaches that level of confrontation, and although some community members have a hard stance, this is largely due to WMF actions, specially

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The tragedy of Commons

2014-06-27 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, 2014-06-27 5:57 GMT+05:30 Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com: On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: than aggressively purging content in the fear that a single byte of potentially non-free content may infect the repository. You're attacking a straw

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lets delete everything from commons (was The tragedy of Commons)

2014-06-22 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, 2014-06-22 16:00 GMT+05:30 Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com: It is a bit crazy :-) The use to be copyright holder of these files is Israeli goverment. But according to the goverment it does not claim any copyrights as it clearly stated that the these files are not copyrightable, and it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The tragedy of Commons

2014-06-20 Thread Yann Forget
is not found. Regards, Yann 2014-06-17 5:04 GMT+05:30 Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com: Hi, Some Commons contributors like to ask impossible requirements, and threaten to delete files if these are not met. We have now a case of famous pictures from the government of Israel and Israel Defense Forces

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The tragedy of Commons

2014-06-18 Thread Yann Forget
2014-06-18 1:43 GMT+05:30 Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com: Yann, On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 4:01 AM, Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com wrote: The rules of the project, free license, or in the public domain in USA and in the source country, are fine as long as they are not used to game

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The tragedy of Commons

2014-06-17 Thread Yann Forget
from that consultation. Lodewijk Regards, Yann 2014-06-17 1:34 GMT+02:00 Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com: Hi, Some Commons contributors like to ask impossible requirements, and threaten to delete files if these are not met. We have now a case of famous pictures from the government of Israel

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The tragedy of Commons

2014-06-17 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, 2014-06-18 0:37 GMT+05:30 Nathan nawr...@gmail.com: I don't think the concept of the project is the problem. I'm skeptical that an Uncommons project built around fair use could be workable, considering that the validity of a fair use claim is context-specific and no cross-wiki project

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The tragedy of Commons

2014-06-17 Thread Yann Forget
2014-06-18 0:55 GMT+05:30 Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com: On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: The problem is the behavior of a certain core set of Commons admins; Yes. George, SJ, and Nathan: In addition to Erik Moeller's initial proposal that Commons be

[Wikimedia-l] The tragedy of Commons

2014-06-16 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, Some Commons contributors like to ask impossible requirements, and threaten to delete files if these are not met. We have now a case of famous pictures from the government of Israel and Israel Defense Forces.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons and OCILLA

2014-06-13 Thread Yann Forget
wrote: Hi Yann This is a really useful resource. Who is looking after it now, and how is it being funded? I don’t know who ‘Ray’ is. Michael On 8 Jun 2014, at 17:43, Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-06-08 21:56 GMT+05:30 rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com: Would it make

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons and OCILLA

2014-06-08 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, 2014-06-08 21:56 GMT+05:30 rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com: Would it make sense to deploy a server in another country under a domain not owned by the foundation? E.g. Switzerland? I already started that in 2005. It is called Wikilivres: http://wikilivres.ca/ In 2010, I could not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons' frontpage probably shouldn't prominently feature a decontextualised stack of corpses.

2014-05-12 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, I am puzzled than you launch such a Wikimedia-wide protest about this, and that you are even not active on Commons. If there is something which you don't like, come to Commons and participate! Sending you opinion accross without doing anything won't help... Yann 2014-05-09 7:40 GMT+05:30

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-17 Thread Yann Forget
+1 Yann 2014-04-16 2:02 GMT+05:30 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: On 15 April 2014 21:08, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote: It's a difficult question. I'm in favour in general, and I think it's a good idea to support projects that we use and need the money. The problem I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-17 Thread Yann Forget
2014-04-16 2:10 GMT+05:30 Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com: (...) 2) We need a free toolchain that we can build upon and digitize / gather / curate / format / publish knowledge with. There are currently major gaps in this toolchain -- core projects and collaborations rely on non-free tools or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Commons-l] A decision in Commons regarding URAA affected files

2014-04-04 Thread Yann Forget
://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Massive_restoration_of_deleted_images_by_the_URAA 2014-04-04 2:02 GMT+05:30 Robinson Tryon bishop.robin...@gmail.com: On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Well, it doesn't go so easily. Some Commons admins refuse to accept the community

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal: Transparency for Wikimedia paid volunteers

2014-04-04 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, In 2007, there was some significant conflict on the French Wkipedia, when people working for the nuclear industry edited related articles, and denied anyone without a PhD on nuclear physics any autority about this subject. Further more they refused any reference from outside the nuclear

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A decision in Commons regarding URAA affected files

2014-04-03 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, Well, it doesn't go so easily. Some Commons admins refuse to accept the community decision, and want to maintain the status quo inspite of the huge majority of opinions for supporting this. They are usually the most vocal and bold admins. Some admins are supporting it, some are afraid to go

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA

2014-02-28 Thread Yann Forget
2014-02-28 7:00 GMT+05:30 geni geni...@gmail.com: On 27 February 2014 22:56, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: This is the essential point of the problem: * Commons has a long-running attitude of absolute copyright paranoia, so that no reuser will ever be put in legal danger. This

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA

2014-02-26 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, 2014-02-26 16:01 GMT+05:30 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: On 24 February 2014 20:51, Galileo Vidoni gali...@gmail.com wrote: However, over the last months certain Wikimedia Commons administrators have conducted massive deletions of these contents, in many cases involving entire

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter on open letters (Was: Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA)

2014-02-26 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, 2014-02-26 22:56 GMT+05:30 Fæ fae...@gmail.com: On 26 February 2014 17:07, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 February 2014 16:46, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: If anyone wants to create meaningful and lasting change to Commons, then please create a Request for Comment on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter on open letters (Was: Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA)

2014-02-26 Thread Yann Forget
2014-02-26 23:39 GMT+05:30 Fæ fae...@gmail.com: On 26 February 2014 17:55, Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com wrote: ... On this, I agree (at least partially) with David. If only some Commons admins were not pursuing a political campaign to delete URAA-affected files under false pretences

Re: [Wikimedia-l] extend mediawiki software to allow append a group, and COI to an edit

2014-02-25 Thread Yann Forget
2014-02-25 21:20 GMT+05:30 Laura Hale la...@fanhistory.com: So if you are editing an article about Serbian politics, you would be asked if you are a Serb nationalist, a Croatian nationalist, a right wing political party member, a left wing political party member, male, Christian, Muslim, have

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright URAA trolls on Wikimedia Commons

2013-12-31 Thread Yann Forget
2013/12/31 ??? wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk Isn't that the attitude that got Kim Dotcom into trouble? http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/us-unveils-the- case-against-kim-dotcom-revealing-e-mails-and-financial-data/ This is a typical trolling. Comparing Megaupload with Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright URAA trolls on Wikimedia Commons

2013-12-30 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, 2013/12/30 Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com On Dec 29, 2013 5:51 PM, Fæ faewik+comm...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 Dec 2013 22:43, Klaus Graf klausg...@googlemail.com wrote: I think it would be the best if _all_ URAA affected files would be kept until a DMCA take down notice. Your

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright URAA trolls on Wikimedia Commons

2013-12-30 Thread Yann Forget
2013/12/30 geni geni...@gmail.com On 30 December 2013 11:26, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi Tomasz, You have a really strong opinion. When you read this thread, you will notice that it is not appreciated by many and seen as disruptive. Can you appreciate it in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] XOWA has released a complete copy of 2013-11-04 English Wikipedia with images -- Help wanted!

2013-11-25 Thread Yann Forget
Hello, Good work, but could you make a list of torrent somewhere on Meta? Are there torrent files for all projects (Wiktionary, Wikisource, etc.)? Because IA search really sucks. Thanks, Yann 2013/11/25 gnosygnu gnosy...@gmail.com Hi. I am the developer for XOWA -- a free, open-source

Re: [Wikimedia-l] September 11 wiki

2013-11-20 Thread Yann Forget
Hello, 2013/11/21 Nathan nawr...@gmail.com I think it would be better to reformulate it into book format and make it available as an e-book, for free download either directly from Wikimedia or other outlets like iTunes or Amazon. That would be searchable, and I don't know that hosting it in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: Big data benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

2013-01-10 Thread Yann Forget
Hello, I agree totally with Tim's assessments of the situation, and it is quite the same on the French WP, and that's why I stopped editing there. Some people like power more than anything else (well, that's not surprising, because it is quite the same IRL), including the growth of the project.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation and Saudi Telecom (STC) partner to provide access to Wikipedia free of mobile data charges in the Middle East

2012-10-16 Thread Yann Forget
Hello, 2012/10/16 Kul Wadhwa kwad...@wikimedia.org: The goal in working with Intigral/STC is to remove barriers so more people in the world can have access to free knowledge, and in this specific case it's in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Bahrain. There isn't a deal here that involves content

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation and Saudi Telecom (STC) partner to provide access to Wikipedia free of mobile data charges in the Middle East

2012-10-15 Thread Yann Forget
2012/10/16 Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com: On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:35 PM, Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, This announcement is worrying, to say the least. In other words, the Wikimedia Foundation is doing a partnership with one of the most retrograde government, which is also

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation and Saudi Telecom (STC) partner to provide access to Wikipedia free of mobile data charges in the Middle East

2012-10-15 Thread Yann Forget
2012/10/16 Ciphers Wikip ciphersw...@gmail.com: Well, this telecom company is the arm of the government to impose censorship in KSA. This is a poor excuse. In creating such a partnership, WMF is implicitely supporting the censorship by providing a moral caution, even if it is not directly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Policy and Political Affiliations Guideline

2012-08-03 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, Man, what a talent for story telling! But I don't think you story represents anything close to WP. First comparing copying digital content illegally with stealing cakes is a very bad analogy. That's what the industry wants us to believe, and you falled by the trick. Then I don't think people

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI+ certification proposal

2012-08-01 Thread Yann Forget
Hello, Conflict of Interest (CoI) is a much bigger issue than paid editing. I have seen several serious CoI within Wikipedia where the editors are not strictly paid because they edit WP, nevertheless they do not respect the basic NPOV rules: allowing other opinions to be heard, balancing sources

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-08-01 Thread Yann Forget
2012/7/28 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org: On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: On 27/07/12 09:46, Nikola Smolenski wrote: An excellent list :) I'd like to add: you sneak in the stadium without paying the ticket. IOC can do nothing. Seriously, if IOC decides to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-11 Thread Yann Forget
2012/7/11 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: On 11 July 2012 08:57, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: It is quite possible, as in China, political censorship is the actual purpose, and pornography, and whatever, is just the excuse. Censoring porn is *always* a stalking horse for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who invoked principle of least surprise for the image filter?

2012-06-21 Thread Yann Forget
2012/6/21 Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com: Incidentally, a Commons copyright specialist is currently being banned for copyright specialist? Is this supposed to be a joke? A 4th degree sargasm? An alien way of defining a specialist? Or anything else? Yann (cut nonsense rethoric about the PK

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who invoked principle of least surprise for the image filter?

2012-06-21 Thread Yann Forget
2012/6/21 Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com: Incidentally, a Commons copyright specialist is currently being banned for nominating admins' copyright violations for deletion, even though the vast majority of his deletions have always turned out to be correct ... the administrators are feeling