Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-05-21 Thread James Alexander
Thanks so much for the help with this Fæ! James Alexander Legal and Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation (415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Fæ wrote: > On 10 May 2014 19:02, Fæ wrote: > > ... I'll take a look at Faebot keeping > > a table regularly synchronize

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-05-21 Thread
On 10 May 2014 19:02, Fæ wrote: > ... I'll take a look at Faebot keeping > a table regularly synchronized on meta using the Google spreadsheets > API. For anyone that may be interested in seeing which WMF employees have what advanced permissions, there is now a wikitable on meta automatically gen

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-05-14 Thread James Alexander
I'm heading to bed but will follow up with you tomorrow from the office. Publishing is on for that sheet at the moment (that's what I'm using to show it through the link I gave) so not exactly sure what else you need but I'd love if faebot was able to help keep it synced up on wiki. Actually, othe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-05-14 Thread
On 10 May 2014 19:02, Fæ wrote: > On 21/04/2014, James Alexander wrote: > ... >> we ask for a use case for every rights request, you can see most of them >> here >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AvhjkTJIpW2zdDl1bVBuOU1jQUJwOHd5YmhmSzFaZHc&single=true&gid=5&output=htmlsysadmin > > J

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-05-10 Thread
On 21/04/2014, James Alexander wrote: ... > we ask for a use case for every rights request, you can see most of them > here > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AvhjkTJIpW2zdDl1bVBuOU1jQUJwOHd5YmhmSzFaZHc&single=true&gid=5&output=htmlsysadmin James, if you open this spreadsheet and swit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-04-22 Thread Gryllida
On Mon, 21 Apr 2014, at 0:58, Isarra Yos wrote: > On 20/04/14 11:50, Liangent wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) > > wrote: > > > >> Amir E. Aharoni, 20/04/2014 08:39: > >> > >> Silly technical remark: Everybody, please stop doing this with > >>> parentheses. > >>>

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-04-21 Thread Michael Peel
On 21 Apr 2014, at 19:35, James Alexander wrote: > Right now it's on a google doc because it is a public view of the tracking > spreadsheet Philippe and I use (which includes staff whose rights requests > were denied or removed as well as some contact info and additional tracking > (for example

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-04-21 Thread James Alexander
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Michael Peel wrote: > Hi James, > > On 21 Apr 2014, at 19:16, James Alexander > wrote: > > > Philippe and I have worked hard to try and make the 'staff' user group as > > it traditionally stands a very 'as needed' right and so the default is > now > > to give ou

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-04-21 Thread Nathan
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 2:16 PM, James Alexander wrote: > On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Nathan wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Marc A. Pelletier > > wrote: > > > > > On 04/21/2014 12:07 PM, Nathan wrote: > > > > Of the 120 staffers that don't have a "staff account", how many ha

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-04-21 Thread Michael Peel
Hi James, On 21 Apr 2014, at 19:16, James Alexander wrote: > Philippe and I have worked hard to try and make the 'staff' user group as > it traditionally stands a very 'as needed' right and so the default is now > to give out no rights or "smaller", more focused, rights (meta admin, > central no

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-04-21 Thread James Alexander
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Nathan wrote: > On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Marc A. Pelletier > wrote: > > > On 04/21/2014 12:07 PM, Nathan wrote: > > > Of the 120 staffers that don't have a "staff account", how many have > > > accounts with (WMF) in the username - or accounts at all? > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-04-21 Thread Brandon Harris
It is so that there is (theoretically) no question when we are operating as a staff versus operating as volunteers. On Apr 21, 2014, at 11:08 AM, Nathan wrote: > Ah, interesting. I wonder why its necessary for most or all WMF staffers to > have accounts with an explicit WMF affiliatio

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-04-21 Thread Nathan
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: > On 04/21/2014 12:07 PM, Nathan wrote: > > Of the 120 staffers that don't have a "staff account", how many have > > accounts with (WMF) in the username - or accounts at all? > > I honestly do not know the numbers, though I'd wager "most"

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-04-21 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 04/21/2014 12:07 PM, Nathan wrote: > Of the 120 staffers that don't have a "staff account", how many have > accounts with (WMF) in the username - or accounts at all? I honestly do not know the numbers, though I'd wager "most" is close to reality - certainly any recent addition to the teams. I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-04-21 Thread Nathan
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: > On 04/21/2014 09:16 AM, Nathan wrote: > > Do WMF accounts still get the staff usergroup? > > Most accounts of staff and contractors do not get that usergroup: it is > a very highly privileged group that includes pretty much every > permi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-04-21 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 04/21/2014 09:16 AM, Nathan wrote: > Do WMF accounts still get the staff usergroup? Most accounts of staff and contractors do not get that usergroup: it is a very highly privileged group that includes pretty much every permission on every wiki, and access to it is on a strictly-needed basis. h

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-04-21 Thread Peter Southwood
Hence the suggestion that the user has to request removal. Cheers, Peter - Original Message - From: "Nathan" To: "Wikimedia Mailing List" Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:40

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-04-21 Thread Nathan
User should be able to add > affiliations at will but probably should have to request to have them > removed > Peter > - Original Message - From: "Chris McKenna" > To: "Wikimedia Mailing List" > Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 6:23 PM > Subject: Re: [Wiki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-04-21 Thread Peter Southwood
Peter - Original Message - From: "Chris McKenna" To: "Wikimedia Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 6:23 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username On Sun, 20 Apr 2014, Isarra Yos wrote: Removing the affiliation from the name itself and adding

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-04-20 Thread Chris McKenna
On Sun, 20 Apr 2014, Isarra Yos wrote: Removing the affiliation from the name itself and adding it as a group would allow the mediawiki to format the name and group in a way that makes sense for the given language. Keep to the parentheses for english and such, do other things for ones where t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-04-20 Thread Isarra Yos
On 20/04/14 11:50, Liangent wrote: On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: Amir E. Aharoni, 20/04/2014 08:39: Silly technical remark: Everybody, please stop doing this with parentheses. It breaks in right to left languages. Gary-WMF is just as readable, and doesn't have

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-04-20 Thread Liangent
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Amir E. Aharoni, 20/04/2014 08:39: > > Silly technical remark: Everybody, please stop doing this with >> parentheses. >> It breaks in right to left languages. Gary-WMF is just as readable, and >> doesn't have this problem. Thanks for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-04-20 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Amir E. Aharoni, 20/04/2014 08:39: Silly technical remark: Everybody, please stop doing this with parentheses. It breaks in right to left languages. Gary-WMF is just as readable, and doesn't have this problem. Thanks for the attention. Your suggestion works against the built-in assumptions of M

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-04-20 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Amir, this is the first time that one's been brought up. I'll chat with OIT about potentially changing moving forward. pb *Philippe Beaudette * \\ Director, Community Advocacy \\ Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. T: 1-415-839-6885 x6643 | phili...@wikimedia.org | : @Philippewiki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-04-19 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Silly technical remark: Everybody, please stop doing this with parentheses. It breaks in right to left languages. Gary-WMF is just as readable, and doesn't have this problem. Thanks for the attention. בתאריך 20 באפר 2014 02:17, מאת "Gryllida" : > On a second thought, do we want to add an optional

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-04-19 Thread Risker
I hear where you're coming from, Gryllida. This only works if there is some mechanism by which the affiliation can be confirmed. The (WMF) affiliation is easily confirmed, and in fact anyone adding that affiliation to their account name who isn't a WMF staffer gets blocked pretty quickly. Howeve

[Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-04-19 Thread Gryllida
On a second thought, do we want to add an optional "affiliation" field to the signup form, so the affiliation goes at the end of username in braces? - DGarry (WMF) - Fred (DesignSolutionsInc) - David (MIT) - ... So the signup form would look like this: -