Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

2016-01-19 Thread Luis Villa
My experiences with discourse in a non-Wikimedia context is great. Worth > a try. > > Alice. > > - Ursprüngliche Nachricht - > Von: "Samuel Klein" > Gesendet: ‎15.‎01.‎2016 02:46 > An: "Wikimedia Mailing List" > Betreff: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

2016-01-15 Thread Lodewijk
This talks mostly of 'moving there' which suddenly in a very short time quite a number of people seem on board with. Glad that you're so thrilled about it. To be honest, while I am not always happy with ways we discuss, that has more often to do with the people than with the technology. At the sam

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

2016-01-15 Thread Luis Villa
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 7:58 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 15 January 2016 at 15:50, Guillaume Paumier > wrote: > > > moving Wikimedia mailing lists to Discourse > > What problem is this intended to solve? > Very short answer is "that mailing lists are an awful user experience for most people".

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

2016-01-15 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 15 January 2016 at 15:50, Guillaume Paumier wrote: > moving Wikimedia mailing lists to Discourse What problem is this intended to solve? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: http

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

2016-01-15 Thread Guillaume Paumier
Hello, Le vendredi 15 janvier 2016, 06:07:54 Alice Wiegand a écrit : > My experiences with discourse in a non-Wikimedia context is great. Worth a > try. +1. A few weeks ago, I drafted some notes about moving Wikimedia mailing lists to Discourse (I posted them on a private wiki; I should have k

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

2016-01-15 Thread Milos Rancic
Wiegand" ha scritto: > >> My experiences with discourse in a non-Wikimedia context is great. Worth >> a try. >> >> Alice. >> >> - Ursprüngliche Nachricht - >> Von: "Samuel Klein" >> Gesendet: ‎15.‎01.‎2016 02:46 >> A

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

2016-01-15 Thread Andrea Zanni
-- Ursprüngliche Nachricht - > Von: "Samuel Klein" > Gesendet: ‎15.‎01.‎2016 02:46 > An: "Wikimedia Mailing List" > Betreff: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam > > On Jan 14, 2016 8:35 PM, "Luis Villa" wrote: > > > > I agree that thankspam i

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

2016-01-14 Thread Alice Wiegand
My experiences with discourse in a non-Wikimedia context is great. Worth a try. Alice. - Ursprüngliche Nachricht - Von: "Samuel Klein" Gesendet: ‎15.‎01.‎2016 02:46 An: "Wikimedia Mailing List" Betreff: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam On Jan 14, 2016 8:35 PM,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

2016-01-14 Thread Samuel Klein
On Jan 14, 2016 8:35 PM, "Luis Villa" wrote: > > I agree that thankspam is somewhat irritating, but it is also a good way to > make people feel welcome and appreciated. An alternative is to consider > moving wikimedia-l to a tool like discourse.org Thanks for that idea. Discourse looks great. Ma

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

2016-01-14 Thread Luis Villa
I agree that thankspam is somewhat irritating, but it is also a good way to make people feel welcome and appreciated. An alternative is to consider moving wikimedia-l to a tool like discourse.org that has (1) built-in likes, which communicate welcome and appreciation without creating noise and (2)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

2016-01-14 Thread Vituzzu
These days those messages are the best stuffs sent to this list, I'm definitely not bored by them. Anyone subscribing this list knows is a 500 emails/months list. Vito Il 13/01/2016 19:15, Milos Rancic ha scritto: On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 6:17 PM, Chris Keating wrote: To me, "Hello" and "Tha

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

2016-01-14 Thread Ricordisamoa
Thankspam is not big a problem in my opinion. One or two seconds per message and you're done, then your mind will be full of good. What I find most annoying are long emails with few actual contents. You have to read them to find out they were not worth reading. Il 13/01/2016 12:11, Fæ ha scrit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

2016-01-14 Thread Gnangarra
Crikey, balance, spam, dont contribute, very little contribution, +1 pile on (though we dont see many -1 pile ons). we are society/community that works because we collaborate we assume good faith int he actions of others, we know that while we speak(email) in english many of us have different

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

2016-01-13 Thread Lodewijk
I do agree in general that generic '+1' emails contribute very little. If you really want to thank someone, or welcome them, it probably makes a better impression if you write a little more than that. Say a few lines to introduce the list, give them a tip or offer them to show them around. Persona

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

2016-01-13 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Chris Keating wrote: > > To me, "Hello" and "Thank you" are quite under-used words on this list (in > the movement generally but particularly here) so I would prefer we didn't > rule these emails out. > > After all, if we remove pile-on positive threads that contai

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

2016-01-13 Thread Andrea Zanni
I agree with Chris too! Thank you Chris! Aubrey. Il 13/gen/2016 22:32 "Shabab Mustafa" ha scritto: > And "thank you" Fæ, for brining this up! [pun intended] [sarcasm alert] > [weapons down] > > Pardon my poor sense of humour, but I couldn't resist! :P > > I believe "thank you" and "please" are m

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

2016-01-13 Thread Shabab Mustafa
And "thank you" Fæ, for brining this up! [pun intended] [sarcasm alert] [weapons down] Pardon my poor sense of humour, but I couldn't resist! :P I believe "thank you" and "please" are magic words, specially in voluntary works. I agree with Chris. On Jan 13, 2016 5:11 PM, "Fæ" wrote: > TL;DR > C

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

2016-01-13 Thread Peter Southwood
I totally second this. Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Fæ Sent: Wednesday, 13 January 2016 1:11 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam TL;DR Can anyone suggest of a better way of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

2016-01-13 Thread Milos Rancic
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 6:17 PM, Chris Keating wrote: > To me, "Hello" and "Thank you" are quite under-used words on this list (in > the movement generally but particularly here) so I would prefer we didn't > rule these emails out. > > After all, if we remove pile-on positive threads that contain

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

2016-01-13 Thread Chris Keating
To me, "Hello" and "Thank you" are quite under-used words on this list (in the movement generally but particularly here) so I would prefer we didn't rule these emails out. After all, if we remove pile-on positive threads that contain little information then pile-on negative threads with equally li

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

2016-01-13 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The drawback is that not everyone has the inclination to read everything on Meta as well. At some stage it is just too much. By insisting on silence, the silence may become overwhelming and it increases the notion that this list is only for polical tigers. Thanks, GerardM On 13 January 2

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

2016-01-13 Thread Asaf Bartov
+1 from me too, and to not be spammy myself, I'll add: one very appropriate way to do welcomes and thanks is *on-wiki*. Notes welcoming people (or announcing new boards etc.) should, as a matter of habit, include a wiki URL (the user's page, or the affiliate's page, etc.), where people would be i

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

2016-01-13 Thread MF-Warburg
As a mostly silent reader of this list, I'd like to spammingly +1 this message. There's hardly anything more superfluous than these "Welcome from Wikimedia Schleswig-Holstein as well" mails. Am 13.01.2016 12:12 schrieb "Fæ" : > TL;DR > Can anyone suggest of a better way of publicly logging tha

[Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

2016-01-13 Thread
TL;DR Can anyone suggest of a better way of publicly logging thanks, hellos & goodbyes for our public email lists? BACKGROUND Wikimedia lists are probably unique in the number of emails over a year which 'thankspam'. For example there is a pattern set that an awful lot of chapter representatives s