Re: [Wikimedia-l] DEITYBOUNCE and reader logs (was Re: Introducing Victoria Coleman, WMF Chief Technology Officer)

If you want to hear about the results of this research collaboration, or have additional questions about the data collection approach or the analysis, I invite you to come and join us at our upcoming showcase on *Wednesday 11/16. *

Re: [Wikimedia-l] DEITYBOUNCE and reader logs (was Re: Introducing Victoria Coleman, WMF Chief Technology Officer)

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:10 AM, James Salsman wrote: > I assumed that when an affiliated researcher apart from Foundation > staff says, "we have the complete server logs for Wikipedia," > amounting to 17 terabytes per month, that means they possess the > information. I am

Re: [Wikimedia-l] DEITYBOUNCE and reader logs (was Re: Introducing Victoria Coleman, WMF Chief Technology Officer)

Dario, I assumed that when an affiliated researcher apart from Foundation staff says, "we have the complete server logs for Wikipedia," amounting to 17 terabytes per month, that means they possess the information. I am glad to be wrong about that, but I object to the implication that such an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] DEITYBOUNCE and reader logs (was Re: Introducing Victoria Coleman, WMF Chief Technology Officer)

Hi James, > If this does not imply that the logs are copied from Foundation servers, that is certainly advantageous over the apparent meaning of the language used. I am saddened to see that – instead of asking (legitimate) questions to clarify how data is collected and shared – you are assuming

Re: [Wikimedia-l] DEITYBOUNCE and reader logs (was Re: Introducing Victoria Coleman, WMF Chief Technology Officer)

James Salsman wrote: > > If this does not imply that the logs are copied from Foundation > servers, that is certainly advantageous over the apparent meaning > of the language used. Reading the links you provided, and Robert West's acknowledgements which you did not link to, the above strikes me

Re: [Wikimedia-l] DEITYBOUNCE and reader logs (was Re: Introducing Victoria Coleman, WMF Chief Technology Officer)

Leila Zia wrote: >... we are not aware of any reader logs being shipped out of the > WMF servers. Page 20 of http://infolab.stanford.edu/~west1/pubs/West_Dissertation-2016.pdf says, "We have access to Wikimedia’s full server logs, containing all HTTP requests to Wikimedia projects." Page 19

Re: [Wikimedia-l] DEITYBOUNCE and reader logs (was Re: Introducing Victoria Coleman, WMF Chief Technology Officer)

Having looked at this situation further, I am glad to say that I did not find any information in Victoria's background that I considered to be a red flag. However, I would appreciate hearing more from Victoria about her involvement in "Total Information Awareness" [0] and similar programs, past

Re: [Wikimedia-l] DEITYBOUNCE and reader logs (was Re: Introducing Victoria Coleman, WMF Chief Technology Officer)

Hi James, On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 10:22 AM, James Salsman wrote: > The Foundation's main security problem at present is that all of the > reader logs with IP addresses get shipped off to a lab at Stanford > which is under NDA, > ​Please create a task in phabricator for this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] DEITYBOUNCE and reader logs (was Re: Introducing Victoria Coleman, WMF Chief Technology Officer)

On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 10:19 PM, James Salsman wrote: > > Also I would like to know what "Orwellian philosophy" is > http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF01211002 From the paper (you can find download links with minimal effort): "*George Orwell tells us of a language

Re: [Wikimedia-l] DEITYBOUNCE and reader logs (was Re: Introducing Victoria Coleman, WMF Chief Technology Officer)

James, thanks for bringing up that NYTimes article. Having taken a quick look at it, it does raise some concerns but I would consider it a matter worthy of further inquiry rather than a red flag. In Wikimedia we have our own issues with trying to have an "open society" type atmosphere while

Re: [Wikimedia-l] DEITYBOUNCE and reader logs (was Re: Introducing Victoria Coleman, WMF Chief Technology Officer)

] On Behalf Of James Salsman Sent: Friday, 04 November 2016 7:19 AM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] DEITYBOUNCE and reader logs (was Re: Introducing Victoria Coleman, WMF Chief Technology Officer) Katherine Maher wrote: > >... If you have further questions about Victoria’

Re: [Wikimedia-l] DEITYBOUNCE and reader logs (was Re: Introducing Victoria Coleman, WMF Chief Technology Officer)

Katherine Maher wrote: > >... If you have further questions about Victoria’s work with the U.S. > Department of Defense, it is/should soon be a matter of U.S. > Congressional record. Her findings and recommendations will also > be a matter of public record, as all government work should be. >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] DEITYBOUNCE and reader logs (was Re: Introducing Victoria Coleman, WMF Chief Technology Officer)

Hi everyone, Given Victoria’s many engagements over two decades, we weren’t able to list everything in the announcement itself. I can assure you that we carefully considered all of Victoria’s past experience and, with her full support, vetted her background for areas of possible concern, as is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] DEITYBOUNCE and reader logs (was Re: Introducing Victoria Coleman, WMF Chief Technology Officer)

Gerard Meijssen wrote: > > There are two conflicting approaches to vulnerabilities known > to"government"; vulnerabilities make government vulnerable > and therefore they need to be handled properly in code. The > other approach is that a vulnerability is a vector to attack Well, the general

Re: [Wikimedia-l] DEITYBOUNCE and reader logs (was Re: Introducing Victoria Coleman, WMF Chief Technology Officer)

Hoi, There are two conflicting approaches to vulnerabilities known to "government"; vulnerabilities make government vulnerable and therefore they need to be handled properly in code. The other approach is that a vulnerability is a vector to attack. When Mrs Coleman works for the WMF, it follows

Re: [Wikimedia-l] DEITYBOUNCE and reader logs (was Re: Introducing Victoria Coleman, WMF Chief Technology Officer)

A similar thought crossed my mind regarding MediaWiki software. I believe that a number of USG agencies use MediaWiki, and that some of them use it for classified purposes. This is a bit of a two-edged sword; I imagine that they'd want to support the continued development of MediaWiki (which is

[Wikimedia-l] DEITYBOUNCE and reader logs (was Re: Introducing Victoria Coleman, WMF Chief Technology Officer)

It's great that the CTO position was filled. The blog announcement's biography omitted these details: "As Director for Security Initiatives for Intel’s Digital Enterprise Group [Victoria Coleman] was responsible for defining the company’s security technology roadmap and translating it to product