Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-10-30 Thread Tilman Bayer
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Bence Damokos wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Jan-bart de Vreede > wrote: > >> Hey >> >> So someone sent me the internal-l mail and I do think that the "zero >> real-world" thing is taken out of context here. But a few points >> >> 3) I am sure t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-09-14 Thread Frédéric Schütz
On 14/09/12 18:08, Jan-bart de Vreede wrote: 4) Doesn't every survey contain questions that don't apply to the whole responding audience? No, because the answer would not be terribly useful. In all surveys I have seen in my work life [statistics work -- I don't design much surveys myself, b

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-09-14 Thread Bence Damokos
Hi, On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Jan-bart de Vreede wrote: > Hey > > So someone sent me the internal-l mail and I do think that the "zero > real-world" thing is taken out of context here. But a few points > > 1) Lets not have these discussions on internal-l, there is no reason to > not have

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-09-14 Thread Jan-bart de Vreede
Hey So someone sent me the internal-l mail and I do think that the "zero real-world" thing is taken out of context here. But a few points 1) Lets not have these discussions on internal-l, there is no reason to not have those in public 2) See 1) 3) I am sure that the data set allows us to see ch

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-09-14 Thread Florence Devouard
On 9/12/12 4:14 PM, Jan-Bart de Vreede wrote: Hey So I might have missed some mails on this thread (perhaps because they were not posted on this public list) but I highly doubt that Sue perform surveys that do not have a real-world impact on our operations. I know that the results of the pr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-09-14 Thread Samuel Klein
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 3:57 AM, charles andrès wrote: > Because we all agree that there is now such thing like a zero real-world > impact survey, we really hope that the raw results of this survey will be > made as public as possible (privacy issue), and that in the future , survey > including

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-09-14 Thread charles andrès
Dear Jan-Bart, Unfortunately the exact wordings was "I'll point out also that there are zero real-world implications for the survey results". Because we all agree that there is now such thing like a zero real-world impact survey, we really hope that the raw results of this survey will be made as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-09-12 Thread Jan-Bart de Vreede
Hey So I might have missed some mails on this thread (perhaps because they were not posted on this public list) but I highly doubt that Sue perform surveys that do not have a real-world impact on our operations. I know that the results of the previous surveys were used in several discussions (i

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-09-10 Thread Delphine Ménard
Hello Tilman, On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Tilman Bayer wrote: > Hi Delphine, > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 6:57 AM, Delphine Ménard wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Tilman Bayer wrote: > ... >>> >>> Still, I was aware that there had been some objections to that >>> question by chap

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-09-10 Thread Craig Franklin
Great, THANKYOU for finally moving on this. Cheers, Craig Franklin Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 10:24:39 -0700 > From: Tilman Bayer > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and > Office Hour > Message-ID: >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-09-09 Thread Tilman Bayer
Hi Delphine, On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 6:57 AM, Delphine Ménard wrote: > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Tilman Bayer wrote: ... >> >> Still, I was aware that there had been some objections to that >> question by chapter representatives (which I don't assume have to do >> with the fact that respo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-08-24 Thread charles andrès
Le 22 août 2012 à 13:11, Cristian Consonni a écrit : > 2012/8/21 Delphine Ménard : >> If, however, we're going to mix editor's experience and satisfaction >> about Wikimedia, I am cruelly missing any kind of feedback question >> about the work of the chapters and/or other organisations or grou

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-08-22 Thread Cristian Consonni
2012/8/21 Delphine Ménard : > If, however, we're going to mix editor's experience and satisfaction > about Wikimedia, I am cruelly missing any kind of feedback question > about the work of the chapters and/or other organisations or groups in > the Wikimedia Universe that would give people the right

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-08-21 Thread Delphine Ménard
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Tilman Bayer wrote: > I'm not sure she actually said that. In any case, it is wrong - > question D6 in the last survey asked if there was a Wikimedia chapter > in the country where the respondent lived > (https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:December_2

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-08-21 Thread Tilman Bayer
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 5:04 AM, Delphine Ménard wrote: > Hi, sorry to fish out a very old message, but since the survey is > about to go live, I would like to share some concerns I have about it. > Unfortunately, I was on holidays as this announcement came out, so > couldn't do it earlier. > > I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-08-21 Thread Delphine Ménard
Hi, sorry to fish out a very old message, but since the survey is about to go live, I would like to share some concerns I have about it. Unfortunately, I was on holidays as this announcement came out, so couldn't do it earlier. I find the idea of an editor's survey to be extremely important, since

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-07-31 Thread Tilman Bayer
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 10:28 PM, Christine Moellenberndt < christine...@gmail.com> wrote: > *Hi everyone, > > It's been a bit since I last emailed this list (or any list, for that > matter!)... you may remember me, I worked at the Foundation last year in > the Community Department, working with P