Victor Grigas wrote:
> This was because much of the material surrounding the video was
> written in English, and there was a lot of it, so translation would
> have been slow, expensive and prone to error.
That's what community translations are perfect for; they are free (in
terms of licence) an
Bence Damokos wrote:
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/1714329?hl=en "Note that just
active views will be counted and that it won’t include views from videos
set to autoplay."
The video that was included in the banners was not set to autoplay, so I
can hardly see your point.
On Jul 17, 2013, at 8:48 AM, "Tomasz W. Kozlowski"
wrote:
> Victor Grigas wrote:
>
> > This was because much of the material surrounding the video was
> > written in English, and there was a lot of it, so translation would
> > have been slow, expensive and prone to error.
>
> That's what com
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote:
> Victor Grigas wrote:
>
> > This was because much of the material surrounding the video was
> > written in English, and there was a lot of it, so translation would
> > have been slow, expensive and prone to error.
>
> That's what commun
On Jul 17, 2013, at 6:50 AM, Bence Damokos wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 7:52 AM, Tomasz W. Kozlowski > wrote:
>
>> However, as you correctly write, that banner only served those millions of
>> our viewers a cached image that was uploaded to donate.wm.org (so it was
>> cached the usual way)
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 7:52 AM, Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote:
> However, as you correctly write, that banner only served those millions of
> our viewers a cached image that was uploaded to donate.wm.org (so it was
> cached the usual way) and /only/ if they had clicked the play button were
> they se
Dear Victor,
Thank you for the great explanation. I myself have often experienced
problems with the videos on Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons, especially on a
mobile device. So if youtube makes it (realistically) possible that people
can our videos, I am fine with that. You pointed out rightly that
* Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote:
>it came to my attention very recently that a link to a YouTube video has
>been included in our fundraising banners[1] last year, enabling people
>by default to watch a video about Wikipedia loaded through a YouTube
> element.
>I am told that there are technical lim
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo)
wrote:
> The fundraising team is very careful about making banners that the editors
> don't notice. Trying to check how the banners are doing is like playing hide
> and seek, and only a true masochist would do so given how invasive they are.
>
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Victor Grigas wrote:
> In my view, this whole argument would provide reason to:
> 1.) Only use a third party video option sparingly, as-needed until there
> are better open-source video options to use.
> 2.) Put more resources into open source video.
>
On a posit
I'd like to hijack this thread a bit to advertise
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:YouTube_files , for cases
when one sees a freely licensed video on YouTube that ought to be on
Commons too. With WebM available both on YouTube (as one of several
download formats, for many videos) and on
Victor Grigas, 17/07/2013 07:09:
I was expecting to see this thread start the
moment that the banners went live, because I think it is something that the
community should concern itself with. [...]
The fundraising team is very careful about making banners that the
editors don't notice. Trying
A few clarifications inline.
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Victor Grigas wrote:
> On the fundraising team we had used banners to host still images (.jpgs) in
> the past. We wanted to make a video we could put into banners but in July
> 2012 there was no open source HTML5 video player built in
Oliver Keyes wrote:
I would disagree that the scale does not match. I'm not sure how many
people the fundraising banners reach, but I imagine it's a subset of
"people who use wikipedia". Almost /all/ of our external links are going
to be linking to somewhere with a non-compliant privacy policy.
I would disagree that the scale does not match. I'm not sure how many
people the fundraising banners reach, but I imagine it's a subset of
"people who use wikipedia". Almost /all/ of our external links are going to
be linking to somewhere with a non-compliant privacy policy.
On 17 July 2013 06:52
Hi Victor,
thanks for your e-mail, I does indeed provide a lot of valuable
background information!
I'm being told that the technical limitations I mentioned in my opening
e-mail are somehow related to Squid and Varnish (the caching software we
use) and our infrastructure being unable to serve
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Victor Grigas wrote:
> My thanks to everyone who made it happen - we actually had a player that
> would work on many (but not all) devices and it had the added benefit of
> open source closed captions, which I had never seen anywhere else. It was
> awesome, but th
Hi Tomasz & everyone else,
I think it's appropriate I respond to this issue, since it was the video
that I directed that was used in the campaign last year that you talk about.
So last year at Wikimania in Washington D.C. (July 2012) my team conducted
a series of interviews with around 100 Wikipe
On 17 July 2013 04:12, Fajro wrote:
>
> Youtube does not need free advertising on Wikipedia.
>
>
To be frank,[1] youtube has twice our annual unique visitors every /month/.
I would agree: they don't need advertising.
[1] my apologies to Frank - I'll be Oliver from hereonin
--
Oliver Keyes
Comm
>
> Also, why the Wikimedia shop uses Shopify.com instead of the many FOSS
> alternatives?
> http://shop.wikimedia.org/
>
>
>
I have transitioned away from the shop (it's now moving to the fundraising
team) so the future of that is in their hands but I can say that the
biggest thing was that the FO
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 11:44 PM, Tomasz W. Kozlowski
wrote:
> (such as their IP address) to an external website (because no one's going to
> read the small information about YouTube privacy policy).
Except for the good people of tosdr.org:
http://tosdr.org/#youtube
http://tosdr.org/blog/suzanne
From what I understand the technical limitations are actually real; mostly
they operate around throwing the number of donors (or potential donors) we
get at the video.
(Having said that, I'm neither opsen nor fundraising, and will promptly
cram it. But: to the best of my knowledge there is a lot o
Hi,
it came to my attention very recently that a link to a YouTube video has
been included in our fundraising banners[1] last year, enabling people
by default to watch a video about Wikipedia loaded through a YouTube
element.
There's been a small discussion about this on IRC, and I've been a
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