Re: [Wikimedia-l] editor retention initiatives

2014-09-03 Thread Isarra Yos
On 02/09/14 10:56, Ricordisamoa wrote: Il 26/08/2014 12:18, Craig Franklin ha scritto: The editor retention problem will not be solved with technological gizmos and doodads, nor with top-down solutions imposed from above. It will be solved with positive human contact and creating a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] editor retention initiatives

2014-09-02 Thread Ricordisamoa
Il 26/08/2014 12:18, Craig Franklin ha scritto: The editor retention problem will not be solved with technological gizmos and doodads, nor with top-down solutions imposed from above. It will be solved with positive human contact and creating a collaborative community that people actually want

Re: [Wikimedia-l] editor retention initiatives

2014-08-28 Thread David Goodman
Trying to radically change the NFCC guidelines, however desirable, is not something which is likely to succeed. Trying to somewhat simply image procedures might; I hope it could, because I no longer even attempt to work with images. Though this is in large part my own conceptually preference for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] editor retention initiatives

2014-08-26 Thread Liam Wyatt
On 26 August 2014 02:09, David Goodman dgge...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps the best way of doing this is the admittedly laborious method of personally communicating with new editors who seem promising and encouraging them and offering to help them continue. The key word in this is personally. It

Re: [Wikimedia-l] editor retention initiatives

2014-08-26 Thread Jane Darnell
I have seen good results with the thank feature. It is easy to use and seems appreciated. When thanked users write to me in response, I have noticed that a specific and neutral I read your edits about xyz and appreciate them seems to be more likely to encourage more edits about xyz rather than

Re: [Wikimedia-l] editor retention initiatives

2014-08-26 Thread Craig Franklin
I agree with this wholeheartedly. When I think back to when I was new on Wikipedia, pretty early on I got an honest-to-god personal message from someone to thank me for correcting a typo ( https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Lankiveildiff=5647166oldid=5629943 ). It made me feel

Re: [Wikimedia-l] editor retention initiatives

2014-08-26 Thread David Gerard
This is why the thanks mechanism needs to work for IP edits too. (I submit that the hazard that we might accidentally be nice to someone we didn't mean to is not a sufficient threat to block this.) On 26 August 2014 11:18, Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.net wrote: I agree with this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] editor retention initiatives

2014-08-26 Thread Anders Wennersten
I agree with Craig The Thank function is not only good to give to new editors but also as a measurement to what action is appreciated by new beginners I frequently get thanks from new one after I have complemented, wikiadjusted their articles (HELP is appreciated) I never get a Thanks for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] editor retention initiatives

2014-08-26 Thread Ilario Valdelli
The question here is about editor retention. Honestly we can say thank you or we can use a lot of emoticons but the problem is always the same. At the first error the thank you and the pink sweet world disappears. There is always someone in the other side who is so gentle like the elephants in

[Wikimedia-l] editor retention initiatives

2014-08-26 Thread Tim Davenport
David Goodman has this exactly right — new volunteers (as opposed to casual contributors) aren't made with templates of cookies or beer, they are generally made one at a time, with personal attention and personal assistance. Teahouse is one of the best ideas of the last five years, being a place

Re: [Wikimedia-l] editor retention initiatives

2014-08-26 Thread David Goodman
I too have seen some good results with the thank feature ( There are even better results when I write something specific.) I agree with Anders that the thank message is especially useful when sent to me, indicating that something I did was understood--in my case, usually that if I accepted or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] editor retention initiatives

2014-08-26 Thread Richard Farmbrough
I have coincidentally raised the question of fair-use images for living people at the Gender Gap Taskforce talk page. Perhaps this is something we shoudl take to the policy talk page? On 26 August 2014 14:24, Tim Davenport shoehu...@gmail.com wrote: David Goodman has this exactly right — new

Re: [Wikimedia-l] editor retention initiatives

2014-08-25 Thread Tanweer Morshed
Thanks James for addressing such a crucial issue. It is a vital matter but being discussed far less than other topics, in offline or offline programs, activities. Among measures fore retaining editors, there were some banners that appeared on top of articles viewed by new editors or readers. I've

Re: [Wikimedia-l] editor retention initiatives

2014-08-25 Thread Ilario Valdelli
Wikimedia ch is doing a big investment in supporting communities. There are three community liaisons (a third hired recently) to support the three national languages which are also within the biggest linguistic communities. Anyway there is not a unique solution to be adapted easily in user

Re: [Wikimedia-l] editor retention initiatives

2014-08-24 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi. I had a look at the youtube video. Really important in this context is the presentation by Dario. In it he shows how editing is taking of from mobile users using tablets. This is a recent shift but the implication as I see it that working on better tooling for mobile / tablet editors will get

Re: [Wikimedia-l] editor retention initiatives

2014-08-24 Thread Steven Walling
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 6:55 PM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a list somewhere of all currently active Foundation initiatives for attracting and retaining active editors? I am only aware of the one project, Task Recommendations, to try to encourage editors who have made a

[Wikimedia-l] editor retention initiatives

2014-08-23 Thread James Salsman
Is there a list somewhere of all currently active Foundation initiatives for attracting and retaining active editors? I am only aware of the one project, Task Recommendations, to try to encourage editors who have made a few edits to make more, described starting at