Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-12 Thread Yann Forget
Hi James, Of course. More admins would lesser the work charge, and it would be great. We specially appreciate admins with multi-language capabilities, as it is a multilangual project. Of course, comprehensive knowledge of copyright is needed. That is complex, but it can be learnt. Regards, Yann

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-12 Thread Yann Forget
This was reverted. It is a dishonest edit with a misleading summary. Regards, Yann Jai Jagat 2020 Grand March Coordinator https://www.jaijagat2020.org/ +91-74 34 93 33 58 (also WhatsApp) Le dim. 12 mai 2019 à 19:59, Andrew Lih a écrit : > This episode exposes a policy of Commons that may be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-12 Thread Todd Allen
I wouldn't even have any idea what I'd need to do to be a sysop on Commons. I frequently do find copyvio images and nominate them for deletion on Commons while working on the English Wikipedia spam queue (and yes, I'm familiar with copyright law, and they have all, to my knowledge, indeed been

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-12 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, To have a clearer image of Commons admins, please see this https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:List_of_administrators_by_recent_activity There are currently 223 admins (comparing with the English Wikipedia 1,176). Among them 165 have done one admin action during the last month. But

[Wikimedia-l] Courtesy visit to the Vice-Chancellor of the University of Nigeria, Nsukka. ( UNN)

2019-05-12 Thread Olushola Olaniyan
Dear all, We are glad to inform you of our recent courtesy visit to the University of Nigeria. Our mandate as Wikimedia User Group (operating as Wikimedia Nigeria Foundation in Nigeria) is to introduce Wikipedia and it's sister projects to all the citizen of the federal republic of Nigeria. I

[Wikimedia-l] Structured data ethical implications

2019-05-12 Thread Mister Thrapostibongles
Dear all, There have been announcements about the Structured data project on Commons, that is intended to make it easier to view, search, edit, organize and re-use the metadata on media. This is clearly of great value to researchers and developers in image recognition, who will have a large

[Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-12 Thread Mister Thrapostibongles
Hello all, There seems to be a dispute between the Outreach and the Commons components of The Community, judging by the article "Wikimedia Commons: a highly hostile place for multimedia students contributions" at the Education Newsletter

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-12 Thread Benjamin Ikuta
Is the shortage of admins due to a lack of people willing or capable to do the job, or increasing difficulty in obtaining the bit? On May 12, 2019, at 3:55 AM, Tomasz Ganicz wrote: > Well, Actually, at the moment it looks they are all undeleted. > > The good habit - which I was keeping

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-12 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
Well, Actually, at the moment it looks they are all undeleted. The good habit - which I was keeping when organizing several GLAM-related mass uploads - was to create on Commons project page describing what it is intended to be uploaded, preferably in English. Then you can create a project

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-12 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Just the active community itself is too small, compared with the amount of material it has to deal with. Cheers Yaroslav On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 1:07 PM Benjamin Ikuta wrote: > > > > Is the shortage of admins due to a lack of people willing or capable to do > the job, or increasing difficulty

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-12 Thread Amir Sarabadani
IMO commons need either a Clue Bot NG for new uploads or ores support for images that might be copyright violation, or both. Best On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 1:10 PM Yaroslav Blanter wrote: > Just the active community itself is too small, compared with the amount of > material it has to deal with.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-12 Thread Yann Forget
Yes, Yaroslav is right. The active community is small compared to the amount of work to be done. I have advocated since long that massive training is needed to fix this. These trainings should be sponsored by the WMF and its affiliates. Regards, Yann Forget Jai Jagat 2020 Grand March

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-12 Thread
A couple of years ago a proposed project was for the WMF to pay for access to the Google image matching API access so we could run a copyvio bot on the live new uploads list. Such a bot would not be terribly hard to get working, and would be a great experiment to see if this aspect of the more

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-12 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Well.. there where instructions. All the videos were supervised before uploading, all the songs were perfectly cited at the descriptions and all the own work was marked as own work. This are the instructiones to follow when uploading to Commons. From:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-12 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
A large part of the problem is the disconnection between online and offline communities or types of users. It is quite counterproductive having affiliates, outreach programs, whatever, reaching out to people out to the Wikimediaverse inviting them to use our projects without having any plans or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-12 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
This is true. I verified and restored almost all the files. There was one or two problems with students who uploaded an occasional derivative work (integrated in their own work), but almost all the files were OK, and correctly uploaded. The main problem here, IMO, was marking sourced stuff as "no

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-12 Thread Vi to
Major projects surely deal with a significant amount of uploads in an efficient way. Vito Il giorno dom 12 mag 2019 alle ore 17:31 Paulo Santos Perneta < paulospern...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > I absolutely disagree with this. A Wikipedia sysop do not necessarily has - > and from my experience,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-12 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
Anyone doing Commons stuff has to do have Commons skills. Wikipedia sysops are not asked to have them, and do not have them by default. If Wikipedia sysops that deal with copyright want to be Commons admins, they can apply anytime for that role. Otherwise, render to Caesar the things that are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikimédiens du Bénin User Group

2019-05-12 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Sun, 12 May 2019 11:41:53 -0400 Kirill Lokshin wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized > [1] the Wikimédiens du Bénin User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User Group. The > group aims to support the community of active contributors that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-12 Thread Peter Southwood
It seems to be a situation where there were no clear instructions, so people did what they thought was a good idea, but others thought it was a bad idea. No communications, now the blame is being spread without analysing the problem and proposing a solution. Not an unusual situation really.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-12 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
I absolutely disagree with this. A Wikipedia sysop do not necessarily has - and from my experience, most of the time hasn't - the necessary skills to deal with copyright. Best, Paulo A domingo, 12 de mai de 2019, 14:35, Vi to escreveu: > I wonder wheter local sysops could be allowed to

[Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikimédiens du Bénin User Group

2019-05-12 Thread Kirill Lokshin
Hi everyone! I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized [1] the Wikimédiens du Bénin User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User Group. The group aims to support the community of active contributors that develop content about Bénin, its story, culture, and people; to promote

[Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the WikiClassics User Group

2019-05-12 Thread Kirill Lokshin
Hi everyone! I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized [1] the WikiClassics User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User Group. The group aims to improve the quantity and quality of information about classical antiquity on the Wikimedia projects. Please join me in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the WikiClassics User Group

2019-05-12 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Sun, 12 May 2019 11:43:22 -0400 Kirill Lokshin wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized > [1] the WikiClassics User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User Group. The group > aims to improve the quantity and quality of information about

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-12 Thread Vi to
I wonder wheter local sysops could be allowed to delete/undelete images on commons in order to reduce workload. Most risky commons' uploads come from cw-upload, allow local sysops to handle them could work. Vito Il giorno dom 12 mag 2019 alle ore 15:31 James Heilman ha scritto: > It is hard to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-12 Thread Andrew Lih
This episode exposes a policy of Commons that may be unknown to many folks - the precautionary principle. It is an explicit exception to assuming good faith, so I noted this on the AGF page on Commons. https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Assume_good_faith=prev=349650525

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-12 Thread James Heilman
It is hard to get the admin bit there aswell. Is Commons interested in having more admins? James On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 5:41 AM Fæ wrote: > A couple of years ago a proposed project was for the WMF to pay for > access to the Google image matching API access so we could run a > copyvio bot on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-12 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
As I am the author of the post, some remarks: * Commons is, indeed, the only [cloud] storage for file in most of the Wikipedias. Making an accusation of using Commons as a storage place is unfair and nonsense. * Communication could be better, of course, but we don't have to think on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-12 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
niedz., 12 maj 2019 o 16:23 Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga napisał(a): > As I am the author of the post, some remarks: > > * Commons is, indeed, the only [cloud] storage for file in most of the > Wikipedias. Making an accusation of using Commons as a storage place is > unfair and nonsense. > I