On 30/09/2020 13:55, Pascal Martin wrote:
Hi all,
Maybe one way in France :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renater
I could contact them if it s possible, and more particularly the criann
he would only charge for electricity.
At the same time this allows to be able to save energy for users who
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. Cheers,
Peter
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Hi everyone,
Options
Hi everyone,
Options to mitigate any risks are numerous, especially when it comes to
content distribution (private/semi-private/public/delegated/federated/a mix
of everything) but given the current context I would restrain from having
this as a public / community discussion.
We, community
On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 12:22 PM Nathan wrote:
> Well, to Steven's point that you might need a jurisdiction where corporate
> officers and employees aren't subject to extradition... I believe Germany
> does in fact have an extradition treaty with the United States.
>
The chapters do seem like
Well, to Steven's point that you might need a jurisdiction where corporate
officers and employees aren't subject to extradition... I believe Germany
does in fact have an extradition treaty with the United States.
So far the criteria I'm hearing from the comments here:
1) Politically stable
2)
… hence the existence of Wikimedia chapters? I suspect at least WMDE could take
this on if it becomes necessary, although other chapters aren’t as
technologically developed as I’d have liked to have seen.
Thanks,
Mike
> On 30 Sep 2020, at 19:35, Steven Walling wrote:
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> SJ hinted at a
SJ hinted at a related problem which is that we'd also need a backup
organizational structure to run things operationally and legally. If the US
becomes so politically unstable that hosting Wikimedia data is under threat
there, just moving the data would not be enough. You'd also have to include
a
We should have technical partners in multiple other jurisdictions that
could help in a crisis, and load bearing infrastructure in at least one of
them, and a plan for how and when to switch. (The walkthrough of what would
be needed for a smooth transfer send most important, and useful for general
Hi all,
Maybe one way in France :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renater
I could contact them if it s possible, and more particularly the criann
he would only charge for electricity.
At the same time this allows to be able to save energy for users who
consult wikipedia in Europe.
Hi all,
as Dimi said, there had been some discussions about this topic over the
years. Unfortunately they were not taken for serious, for example
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Move_the_WMF_and_Servers_to_Iceland
.
And there is not only the political issue, there are
I agree there does a appear to be a need for the WMF and Board to consider
a contingency plan, does it need to be public? I'm not as convinced.
Privacy is just one of many questions that would have to be addressed, with
that being said it's important. There are other equally important needs
from
Hi all,
We have had discussions on this with many Wikimedians over the years, but
frankly, the issue never seemed pressing enough to pursue more seriously.
Some points made that I remember where:
- Perhaps it is enough to just have back-up servers in another
jurisdictions that could
On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 09:49, Erik Moeller wrote:
> I hope that some preliminary contingency plans exist or are being
> developed, and I'm sure that the movement-wide debate will widen if
> the US continues its downward slide into authoritarianism.
>
I agree with Erik. Even under the Obama
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 3:36 PM Joseph Seddon wrote:
> I believe options are going to be explored for sustainability but right now
> legally speaking the US is the best jurisdiction for hosting us now
Certainly.
> and the foreseeable future.
I can't foresee the future. But Trump's first term
Agreed. This is a perennial issue.
I believe options are going to be explored for sustainability but right now
legally speaking the US is the best jurisdiction for hosting us now and the
foreseeable future.
Seddon
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 11:30 PM Nathan wrote:
> Which political system would
Which political system would you prefer, so9q? Just a quick survey finds a
shortage of totally ideal alternatives with no objectionable political
activity in recent years.
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 6:20 PM wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> The US seems to me like an increasingly unsafe and unstable place to
>
Hi
The US seems to me like an increasingly unsafe and unstable place to
store data and servers from a privacy- and political perspective.
Do you have any plans to replicate or move the servers to datacenters in
Europe or elsewhere to protect the community from the risks
introduced by the
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