Re: [Wikimedia-l] Celebrating Parisian culture and libertarianism

Kaya I know I have contributed to the confusion here and for that I apologize, thank you Christophe for express better what I was getting at. Can I suggest that we choose period to put focus on the positive aspects of the migration over the last 70 years, including the various UN charters and tr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Celebrating Parisian culture and libertarianism

Hi, My email was an answer to this topic going to the religion ground, sorry if it was interpretated otherwise. More to the point. As a movement, we must never remember that we ARE diverse. That is one of the thing I love the most is that twice a year I do actually get to meet people from the oth

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Celebrating Parisian culture and libertarianism

Hoi, Do read about exclusion (a sociology term) and given the people concerned it fits. The reason people give and the mechanisms involved are separate. While we suffer for France, we will suffer the consequences when people no longer appreciate that one of the universal human rights is the right

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Celebrating Parisian culture and libertarianism

This thread went to a bad place surprisingly fast, even for this list. I understand that emotions are high, but please keep your tempers in check and your discussion on-topic. Whatever you may think of Fæ's proposal, I don't think it was intended to provoke a religious argument, which I hope every

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Celebrating Parisian culture and libertarianism

Isaac David makes good points, and writing it off as racist and discrimination is ridiculous. The people who did these things may indeed be bloodlusty assholes, but what led them to this is important too, and denying that will only ensure that it is not understood, not addressed. I don't care i

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Celebrating Parisian culture and libertarianism

What I said was I think we should be cautious about linking the items Fea proposed both because of the generalisations - stereotypes it would elevate because of Wikipedias online authority. I pointed out that Wikimedians as a community strectches beyond Western Europe and North America and that we

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Celebrating Parisian culture and libertarianism

Just +1 on the stfu. Le 16 nov. 2015 7:53 AM, "Christophe Henner" a écrit : > I'm sorry but just shut the fuck up about "religion". > > They're bloodlusty assholes that wanted to kill and divide. Nothing more. > > It's not a religious thing (Paris isn't à holy city) or a cultural thing. > It's ha

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Celebrating Parisian culture and libertarianism

I'm sorry but just shut the fuck up about "religion". They're bloodlusty assholes that wanted to kill and divide. Nothing more. It's not a religious thing (Paris isn't à holy city) or a cultural thing. It's hate. Simple and plain hate. They'd like us to say it's about religion and culture. Becau

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Celebrating Parisian culture and libertarianism

Le dim. 15 nov. 2015 à 23:06, Gerard Meijssen a écrit : Hoi, Your sarcasm is nothing but discrimination. You throw everybody who beliefs on one pile. I don't know how anyone could be more explicit on his treatment of the problems of making an overt generalisation, yet you attack me persona

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Celebrating Parisian culture and libertarianism

Hoi, Your sarcasm is nothing but discrimination. You throw everybody who beliefs on one pile. Just as if a religion, any religion is needed for people to get off the rails. There are plenty of examples of that. As to who is an actual Muslim and who understands the sunna and its interpretation part

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Celebrating Parisian culture and libertarianism

Yes, because there are many nice self-avowed Jewish, Muslims, Christians, etc. around the world. Therefore when some bad people do something horrible in the name of their cultural and ideological identity it actually has nothing to do with the ideas themselves, it's always got to be some othe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Celebrating Parisian culture and libertarianism

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Gnangarra wrote: > Not sure we should be making such a link as the events in Paris are not > about Islam just as the actions of the women in Kentucky was not a > reflection of Christianity. Paris is not the only place its unfortunately > its not even the latest p

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Celebrating Parisian culture and libertarianism

Hoi, I blogged earlier .. Thanks, GerardM http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2015/11/wikipedia-on-syria-and-iraq-in-light-of.html On 15 November 2015 at 12:12, Fæ wrote: > As an international communi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Celebrating Parisian culture and libertarianism

Not sure we should be making such a link as the events in Paris are not about Islam just as the actions of the women in Kentucky was not a reflection of Christianity. Paris is not the only place its unfortunately its not even the latest place to fall victim to ISIS. Wikimedia is a world wide comm