Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Creation of Noongar (Aboriginal) Wikipedia

2014-03-08 Thread Gnangarra
Since was in WA would have been nice to wait until someone here had commented before making contact I have already emailed Len Collard, they were trying to organise a date to talk 2/3 weeks ago Believe WMF Philippe is also involved because of the negative use of WP name in the press release a

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Creation of Noongar (Aboriginal) Wikipedia

2014-03-08 Thread Craig Franklin
7;t appear to be mentioned in the article but > I found it from this tweet - > https://twitter.com/IndigenousTweet/status/433230348801961985 ) > > Regards, > > Charles > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Creation of Noongar (Aboriginal) Wikipedia

2014-03-08 Thread Janet Reid
On 8 March 2014 21:54, Craig Franklin wrote: > For what it's worth, this is something I thought about a lot during my > time involved with WMAU. > > I don't think an Indigenous language Wikipedia is going to be viable in > the short term. > It would be nice for there to be a way to recognise Abo

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Creation of Noongar (Aboriginal) Wikipedia

2014-03-08 Thread Charles Gregory
Hi Janet, One thing that most of us (who are generally only English speakers) don't take into account is that a lot of the "rules" that we have on Wikipedia are actually English Wikipedia rules. Verifiability, notability, etc guidelines are pretty broad, but some language Wikipedias may choose to

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Creation of Noongar (Aboriginal) Wikipedia

2014-03-08 Thread Andrew Owens
that's a very valid point. I heard something a while ago about an initiative between India and South Africa supported by WMF which was collecting oral information from elders in those places in such a way that it could be used as a verifiable source on Wikipedia on topics not readily covered by reg

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Creation of Noongar (Aboriginal) Wikipedia

2014-03-08 Thread Andrew Owens
anguage >> version >> of Wikipedia? (Wikipedia doesn't appear to be mentioned in the article >> but >> I found it from this tweet - >> https://twitter.com/IndigenousTweet/status/433230348801961985 ) >> >> Regards, >> >> Charles >> -

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Creation of Noongar (Aboriginal) Wikipedia

2014-03-08 Thread Craig Franklin
ow-lifeline-ancient-language >>> >>> Has anyone seen this? Does it refer to a new website or a language >>> version >>> of Wikipedia? (Wikipedia doesn't appear to be mentioned in the article >>> but >>> I found it from this tweet - >>>

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Creation of Noongar (Aboriginal) Wikipedia

2014-03-08 Thread Craig Franklin
Oh, and on the other topic you raise, you're thinking of "Oral citations". https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research%3aOral_Citations Unfortunately, it didn't end happily on English Wikipedia as it was just too much of a cultural leap for everyone to make, which is why you don't see them anymore.

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] creation of Noongar wiukipedia

2014-03-08 Thread SatuSuro
Sorry folks, but I honestly believe this conversation is not appropriate here. It is pending resolution or clarification of a number of legal issues, and should not be here. simple as that Sats ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikime

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Creation of Noongar (Aboriginal) Wikipedia

2014-03-08 Thread Gnangarra
Oral histories are better being recorded, stored separately and then used for citation of quotes rather than pure reference sources, I think creating a Wikitionary Noongar language would be a better fit with en articles covering noongar stories and inclusion of Noongar stories, names etc in already

[Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: Wikiversity- University engagement with Wikimedia projects

2014-03-08 Thread Leigh Blackall
> Leigh Blackall, 28/05/2013 11:18: > >> Hi folks. >> >> Who can point me to or suggest a process for a university wishing to >> engage Wikimedia projects? By that I mean initial consultation to get >> advice on how to consider and formulate an appropriate plan encompasing >> the alignment of polic

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Creation of Noongar (Aboriginal) Wikipedia

2014-03-08 Thread Bruce White
Hey all Just as an observation regarding the possibilities and potential for an Aboriginal Australian peoples kind project (see below): 1. the native title determination processes generate a lot of detailed research around the manner and extend to which original Aboriginal 'societies' contin

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Creation of Noongar (Aboriginal) Wikipedia

2014-03-08 Thread Pru Mitchell
Interesting that the question about whether oral history was a valid source came up at yesterday`s Paralympics workshop in Melbourne (great day by the way for anyone who can get to today`s session). If someone publishes an oral history do they usually verify facts before publishing? We thought

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Creation of Noongar (Aboriginal) Wikipedia

2014-03-08 Thread Gnangarra
Pru is right in that they wouldnt verify facts as such how could verify someones recollection, how could you decide that what a person remember isnt what they experienced. The value of a oral history in an encyclopedic subjects is in the emotional side of event, in being able to provide a personal