Re: [Wikimediach-l] Restaurant on Thursday evening in Lausanne

2014-01-16 Diskussionsfäden rupert THURNER
If i can leave work early enough i try to come as well. The only sure thing atm is: my last train back is at 22:45. Am 15.01.2014 23:58 schrieb "Ludovic Péron" : > Hi, > > I book the restaurant for 19h15 at Pinte Besson. (rue de la Hale) > > Ludovic > > > 2014/1/15 Gabriel Thullen > >> What are

[Wikimediach-l] FW: New Program Evaluation Report: GLAM Content Donations

2014-01-16 Diskussionsfäden Estermann Beat
Fyi. Beat From: LiAnna Davis Sent: Donnerstag, 16. Januar 2014 03:35 To: Wikimedia Chapters cultural partners coordination Subject: New Program Evaluation Report: GLAM Content Donations (please excuse cross-posting) Hi everyone! I posted the latest in the string of program evaluation reports o

[Wikimediach-l] WMF for proprietary video format

2014-01-16 Diskussionsfäden Ilario Valdelli
Dear all, there is an ongoing discussion to support in Wikipedia also the proprietary video format: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Requests_for_comment/MP4_Video Regards -- Ilario Valdelli Wikimedia CH Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Association pour l’avancement des connaissan

Re: [Wikimediach-l] WMF for proprietary video format

2014-01-16 Diskussionsfäden Emmanuel Engelhart
Le 16/01/2014 10:42, Ilario Valdelli a écrit : > there is an ongoing discussion to support in Wikipedia also the > proprietary video format: > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Requests_for_comment/MP4_Video This is IMO obvious, but maybe still essential to remember it: "Without free form

Re: [Wikimediach-l] WMF for proprietary video format

2014-01-16 Diskussionsfäden Gabriel Thullen
Thank you, Emmanuel, for pointing out the obvious. Instead of introducing full MPG4 support, we could support the development of a tool to transform a MPG4 file into an Open format which could be used on Commons. On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Emmanuel Engelhart < emmanuel.engelh...@wikimedia

Re: [Wikimediach-l] WMF for proprietary video format

2014-01-16 Diskussionsfäden Emmanuel Engelhart
Many Wikimedians use Fireogg: http://firefogg.org/ Le 16/01/2014 12:59, Gabriel Thullen a écrit : > Thank you, Emmanuel, for pointing out the obvious. > Instead of introducing full MPG4 support, we could support the > development of a tool to transform a MPG4 file into an Open format which > could

Re: [Wikimediach-l] WMF for proprietary video format

2014-01-16 Diskussionsfäden Manuel Schneider
Am 16.01.2014 12:59, schrieb Gabriel Thullen: > Instead of introducing full MPG4 support, we could support the > development of a tool to transform a MPG4 file into an Open format which > could be used on Commons. This is what I am looking for since a longer time and even made a proposal to the WM

Re: [Wikimediach-l] WMF for proprietary video format

2014-01-16 Diskussionsfäden Yann Heurtaux
We should talk a bit more with the Mozilla Foundation about that. I've seen how far you can push video editing for the (social) web with Popcorn at Mozilla Festival, last october in London; there's definitely an interest, a frustration and high expectations

Re: [Wikimediach-l] WMF for proprietary video format

2014-01-16 Diskussionsfäden Ilario Valdelli
Personally I am in contact with the School of Cinema of Lugano to investigate a partnership and as soon I said that Commons accepts only open format like ogg... there was a general unsatisfaction. The proposal was to upload in another website in proprietary format and after convert in open format.

Re: [Wikimediach-l] WMF for proprietary video format

2014-01-16 Diskussionsfäden Manuel Schneider
Am 16.01.2014 15:09, schrieb Ilario Valdelli: > Personally I am in contact with the School of Cinema of Lugano to > investigate a partnership and as soon I said that Commons accepts only > open format like ogg... there was a general unsatisfaction. > > The proposal was to upload in another website

Re: [Wikimediach-l] WMF for proprietary video format

2014-01-16 Diskussionsfäden Ilario Valdelli
Yes... the problem is to explain what is ogg. Doing transcoding with an unknown format may be a challenge. Regards On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Manuel Schneider < manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch> wrote: > Am 16.01.2014 15:09, schrieb Ilario Valdelli: > > Personally I am in contact with the S

Re: [Wikimediach-l] WMF for proprietary video format

2014-01-16 Diskussionsfäden Manuel Schneider
Am 16.01.2014 15:28, schrieb Ilario Valdelli: > Yes... the problem is to explain what is ogg. > > Doing transcoding with an unknown format may be a challenge. there is no challenge, they simply don't have to deal with it at all. They give the data in their format, we convert it. Once on Commons y

Re: [Wikimediach-l] WMF for proprietary video format

2014-01-16 Diskussionsfäden Ilario Valdelli
Yes, exactly. They produce a proprietary format uploaded in another website and someone will take in charge the conversion. Regards On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Manuel Schneider < manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch> wrote: > Am 16.01.2014 15:28, schrieb Ilario Valdelli: > > Yes... the problem i

Re: [Wikimediach-l] WMF for proprietary video format

2014-01-16 Diskussionsfäden Hartwig Thomas
MP4 is not proprietary as such – only some codecs are. Hartwig From: wikimediach-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediach-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Ilario Valdelli Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 10:43 AM To: Mailing list for Wikimedia CH Subject: [Wikimediach-l] W

Re: [Wikimediach-l] WMF for proprietary video format

2014-01-16 Diskussionsfäden Manuel Schneider
Am 16.01.2014 16:10, schrieb Hartwig Thomas: > MP4 is not proprietary as such – only some codecs are. Right. MP4 is a container format, such as AVI, MOV, OGG or WebM. That's why I am talking in my explanation about MP4 / H.264 or just H.264 - which is the problematic codec. When we talk about W

Re: [Wikimediach-l] WMF for proprietary video format

2014-01-16 Diskussionsfäden Gilbert Conus
Dear all, Emmanuel's remarks are not so obvious. Is there a strong motivation to force holding free content on a free support ? And if the answer is "yes", what is it ? How to understand this section: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Project_scope#Must_be_an_allowable_free_file_format ?

Re: [Wikimediach-l] An experiment

2014-01-16 Diskussionsfäden Yann Heurtaux
Lacks a story/persona re: sound, otherwise really powerful and to-the-point UX work. A vision I definitely share. It might be nice to get it done before 2016 though, or we'll become useless on those fronts by then. Thanks for sharing Ilario. On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ilario Valdelli wrot