Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Legal threat for Wikimedia community volunteers in India getting WMF grants

Ansuman, Thanks for dropping the allegation. Ravi ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Legal threat for Wikimedia community volunteers in India getting WMF grants

I have already said myself that Vishnu misunderstood my words as a threat when it was not. Mistaking my words he had said, what he had to say. And later he had apologised in the same thread. That's why I said he has very poor understanding skills. And also i have said already 'there is no point acc

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Legal threat for Wikimedia community volunteers in India getting WMF grants

Hi, I requested Ansuman to share his email conversation with Vishnu. He gave only a very brief snippet. >From what was shared with me, it is impossible to form a clear opinion about the conversation. So the benefit of doubt should go to Vishnu. The conversation goes like this: Ansuman states t

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Legal threat for Wikimedia community volunteers in India getting WMF grants

It's not a serious issue like I said already. And he had already apologised for the same back then. Unlike him I had not taken it as a threat. I just wanted to share, that happened. Period. Ansuman On 16 May 2014 00:19, Srikanth Ramakrishnan wrote: > If anyone wants, please contact Ansuman o

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Legal threat for Wikimedia community volunteers in India getting WMF grants

If anyone wants, please contact Ansuman offlist for the mails. There is no need to splash them around needlessly. If it is a matter of serious concern, you can take it up with WMF or FDC. On May 15, 2014 11:58 PM, "Jayantilal Kothari" wrote: > Ansuman: Can you please share the mail public? > > -J

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Legal threat for Wikimedia community volunteers in India getting WMF grants

Ansuman: Can you please share the mail public? -Jayantilal. On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:43 PM, ansuman wrote: > If anybody wants to read the conversation, drop me an email, I will share > the part where Vishnu misunderstood and took it as a threat, and his reply > threatening me on the same not

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Legal threat for Wikimedia community volunteers in India getting WMF grants

If anybody wants to read the conversation, drop me an email, I will share the part where Vishnu misunderstood and took it as a threat, and his reply threatening me on the same note. He was not the right person to share my concerns, writing the email on the first place was a mistake by me. So there

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Legal threat for Wikimedia community volunteers in India getting WMF grants

Ansuman, Please make the email conersation public or withdraw your allegation that Vishnu threatened you. Baseless or one sided allegations will only show the community in poor light. Ravi ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikime

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Legal threat for Wikimedia community volunteers in India getting WMF grants

Sunil, Thanks for once again confirming that Wikipedia India Trust had no role in former WMF India programs. My intention is not to investigate if WMF adhered to local laws while running the program but to highlight that community led programs with WMF grants are no different in execution from WM

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Legal threat for Wikimedia community volunteers in India getting WMF grants

Dear Ravi, Thanks so much for all the feedback and the useful questions that you are asking. On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Ravishankar wrote: > The former WMF India programs did not get any financial support from the > Wikimedia India > Trust

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Legal threat for Wikimedia community volunteers in India getting WMF grants

On Wednesday 14 May 2014 11:29 AM, Ravishankar wrote: How were programs like India Education program run? Will this come under FCRA violation? How is the IEP different from any community led event in receiving foreign money and executing projects? Dear Ravi, I do not have a clue how this was

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Legal threat for Wikimedia community volunteers in India getting WMF grants

Why would someone threaten the other when writing an email for the first time, without knowing their intention! Yes, you threaten me, saying not to threaten when it was not a threat. As i have mentioned earlier your understanding skills are very poor, and you failed to understand the Wikimedia mov

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Legal threat for Wikimedia community volunteers in India getting WMF grants

Vishnu, I don't feel threatened :) Nevertheless, it is good to discuss and clarify the alert you have raised. The former WMF India programs did not get any financial support from the Wikimedia India Trust. How were program

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Legal threat for Wikimedia community volunteers in India getting WMF grants

Dear Ansuman, I am assuming that you are referring to our e-mail exchange during April 29 to June 26, 2013. Firstly, it was I who brought to your notice to not threaten in my e-mail dated June 25, 2013. At which point you indicted me of threatening you. It would be best if you could share

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Legal threat for Wikimedia community volunteers in India getting WMF grants

I have had a similar experience with Vishnu when I first wrote an email (prior to the job application) to him with the concerns about A2K. He couldn't understand my concerns, misunderstood my intention, and threaten me without seeking clarification. That day I knew of his intentions and understand

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Legal threat for Wikimedia community volunteers in India getting WMF grants

Vishnu, What you were writing there was fairly off-topic, and quite unnecessary. And that hints of malice. In retrospect, that could have been seriously avoided. It also dangerously undermines other community members who're willing to speak out expressing their opinion in an open discussion. I p

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Legal threat for Wikimedia community volunteers in India getting WMF grants

Dear Hari, I seriously refute the way you are wrongly interpreting my intentions. It is never my intention nor style of work to threaten anyone, least of all a Wikimedian friend like Ravi. I was only making a legal point that we as a movement should look into and I have very clearly stated t

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Legal threat for Wikimedia community volunteers in India getting WMF grants

Ravi, While I do not approve of the way this has been worded here or presented here by you, it does seem like a veiled threat clearly directed towards you by Vishnu for your speaking out (which has been quite vehement, to be honest). And an apparent threat like this coming in from a Program Direct

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Legal threat for Wikimedia community volunteers in India getting WMF grants

Is receiving money as an individual from a foreign body in violation of the Act? If that is so, won't half of India be violating it? I have a copy of the Act from the Ministry of Law and Justice and it doesn't seem to say so. On 13 May 2014 19:11, Ravishankar wrote: > Hey, > > Is there a lega