Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-20 Thread Ravishankar
Anirudh, On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Anirudh Bhati wrote: > Most of the visitors on Wikipedia end up there through search engines. > But there is another group which attempts to access Wikipedia directly by > typing in www.wikipedia.com or www.wikipedia.org in the address bar of > their br

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-20 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Rather than replacing, I suggest reorganising the order. Indic ones on top and others below. Who knows, an Indian may try and access European or African languages too. On 12/20/11, Shiju Alex wrote: >> >> Currently, the landing page for www.wikipedia.org (wikipedia.comredirects >> to >> wikipedia

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-20 Thread Shiju Alex
> > Currently, the landing page for www.wikipedia.org (wikipedia.comredirects to > wikipedia.org) lists the ten largest Wikipedia projects. Apart from the > English Wikipedia, the rest of the projects are practically useless for > most of us in this country. Replacing the foreign language project

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-20 Thread Pradeep Mohandas
hi, Perhaps somebody here has already brought this up, but you can now switch languages on Commons using a drop down menu. You can spot the drop down just below the Village Pump link. There is also a helpful site notice, that suggested I read Commons in British English :). It seems to do this cha

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-20 Thread Anirudh Bhati
Most of the visitors on Wikipedia end up there through search engines. But there is another group which attempts to access Wikipedia directly by typing in www.wikipedia.com or www.wikipedia.org in the address bar of their browsers. Currently, the landing page for www.wikipedia.org (wikipedia.com

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-20 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
I agree with Ravi. On 12/20/11, Ravishankar wrote: >> >> This is a really useful discussion and there's a powerful idea. I agree >> with Ravi that there is an opportunity to build awareness and traffic to >> Indic language sites. While we are already seeing considerable readership >> of Indic l

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-20 Thread Ravishankar
> > This is a really useful discussion and there's a powerful idea. I agree > with Ravi that there is an opportunity to build awareness and traffic to > Indic language sites. While we are already seeing considerable readership > of Indic languages, there's clearly a lot more that can be done to s

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Hisham
On Dec 19, 2011, at 8:16 PM, Theo10011 wrote: > On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Ravishankar wrote: This is a really useful discussion and there's a powerful idea. I agree with Ravi that there is an opportunity to build awareness and traffic to Indic language sites. While we are already see

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Yuvi Panda
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 5:41 PM, CherianTinu Abraham wrote: > On a slightly related note > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector Arun Ganesh was doing this at the Hackathon, and if implemented *properly* I think this should help with the discovery issue a lot. > > -TC > > On

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Theo10011
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Ravishankar wrote: > Theo, > > Clearly, links in sidebars are not getting enough eyeballs. It is also > hard to look for one's own language when there are too many interwiki > links. Unless you are intentionally looking for it, it is hard to notice. > The placeme

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Ravishankar
> > Conclusion, it did not make a dent. Most people dismissed the banners, and > never clicked, those that did, never followed to edit. It made little to no > difference in the visitor or editor stats for the period. > Theo, Clearly, links in sidebars are not getting enough eyeballs. It is also h

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Theo10011
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Theo, last time I checked, Indic languages are no longer listed in the > side of the English Main Page. A limited number of languages is there > with a link to More Languages. They are, it's just that Ind

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Theo, last time I checked, Indic languages are no longer listed in the side of the English Main Page. A limited number of languages is there with a link to More Languages. On 12/19/11, Theo10011 wrote: > Also, we already have that in the left side of every page, the sidebar on > every article lis

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Theo10011
Also, we already have that in the left side of every page, the sidebar on every article lists the version of that article available in different languages. Regards Theo On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Theo10011 wrote: > On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Ravishankar wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Today,

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Theo10011
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Ravishankar wrote: > Hi, > > Today, I went to download WordPress and it told me it is also available in > Tamil. Very neatly done as it somehow detected that I am from Tamilnadu. > > See the screenshot at: http://ravidreams.com/ta-wordpress.png > > A similar annou

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 18:12, Ravishankar wrote: > Srikanth, > {{Disambiguation needed}},Not just here, in many threads going forward, especially atleast 2 Srikanth's are active on the list :D > So, let us not loose steam on discussing the technical hurdles up front. > I guess Universal Lang

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Ravishankar
Srikanth, Even if only x% (or say people who wear white shirt on Monday evenings) are going to see this notice, it is still useful and not going to hurt the project in anyway. Unless the community stands united and requests this feature, it will not happen any sooner. So, let us not loose steam

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Surya Prakash
I think Sundar has suggested something like this before in this list. :) *$U®¥∩* http://goo.gl/RoMyo.com http://about.me/suryaceg On 19 December 2011 18:04, Srikanth Ramakrishnan wrote: > Ravi, I agree. The rotation system, if implemented works best. However

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Ravi, I agree. The rotation system, if implemented works best. However do note, this is best suited for the desktop version only, not Mobiles. I'd like to point out that - People who use Opera Mini on their mobiles, get routed thru a European server while all BlackBerry users get routed thru a serv

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Ravishankar
A single line like "Wikipedia is also available in Bengali, Hind, Malayalam, Telugu, Tamil at the top and to the left of "Login/create account link" will be fine. The line can be as what you see in http://www.google.co.in/ . If we feel showing too many languages is clutter, show random and lim

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Ravishankar
Hi All, Every time this idea is discussed, the technical issue of state / city level resolution and filtering of language issue comes and the discussions stalls. *State / city level resolution is not necessary and need not be an excuse for not implementing this feature.* If we find this feature

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
A small extension of my previous post. Logic, geolocation within India is very much possible. Atleast I know Google can do it. The only hitch is that it doesn't work well with Wireless connections. For instance, I frequently use a Reliance Wireless modem, which is registered in K'taka but even in B

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Ravishankar
Subha, If you check WordPress.com it shows all available Indic languages. If you check WordPress.org, I think it is showing only Tamil (may be because as you said it is the only translation available and that too for Srilankan Tamil : ) But the point is: Even if you show all available Indic lang

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread CherianTinu Abraham
On a slightly related note http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector -TC On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Ravishankar wrote: > Hi, > > Today, I went to download WordPress and it told me it is also available in > Tamil. Very neatly done as it somehow detected that I am from Tamil

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
A good idea no doubt, but I think the detecting which state the user comes from part is a small road block. While Google Mail has been showing which state the IP is from in the logins section, I think the browser or system language should also be taken into consideration, though it may seem obvious

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 17:24, Ravishankar wrote: > Hi, > > Today, I went to download WordPress and it told me it is also available in > Tamil. Very neatly done as it somehow detected that I am from Tamilnadu. > Geolocation within India is impossible. My guess is it used your browser's accepted

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Subhashish Panigrahi
I think localization is done only for Tamil as of now, for me also it's showing Tamil :) But expecting it'd be available in other Indic languages as well. Best Subha On 19 December 2011 17:24, Ravishankar wrote: > Hi, > > Today, I went to download WordPress and it told me it is also available i