Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-21 Thread Ravishankar
(Continued from http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2014-May/011390.html ) OK, where were we :) Ah yes, I was asking about the outcome of CIS's work in general in Kannada Wikipedia. I wanted to hear the story from the community as most of the reports by CIS are unilateral. So,

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-21 Thread Ravishankar
(Continued from http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2014-May/011389.html ) Hang on ! While all these stats highlight the people who make 5+ edits, the real strength of any Wikipedia is people who make 100+, 1000+, 2500+ edits per month. Only those Wikipedias which manage to nurt

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-21 Thread Ravishankar
Pavanaja, Thanks for the explaining the outcome of Tulu Workshops and Christ University partnership. While you take a microscopic view of the recent activity and ask me to be optimistic, I would like to be realistic after taking a macroscopic view on past activities. Please see http://cis-india

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-20 Thread Vikram Vincent
Hi HPN, On 21 May 2014 08:21, Hari Prasad Nadig wrote: > Perhaps we should hear more from the fellow Wikimedians who're neutral and > friends on Kannada Wikipedia mailing list who're neutral to assess the > actual impact than from CIS's partners (Christ College as on this thread, > for instance).

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-20 Thread Hari Prasad Nadig
As a sysop, significant contributor and presently an avid observer on Kannada Wikipedia, I can say that it is true that the user activity has returned to pre-education programme levels within a month or faster than that. In fact, there has not been considerable increase in quality or momentum on pa

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-19 Thread sankarshan
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Pavanaja U B wrote: > The very first email in this thread by Ravi had two main queries –one was > about Tulu Wikipedia workshop and another one about Christ University > project. I have answered both of them. Since both questions were asked in > the same email, I a

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-19 Thread Pavanaja U B
shnan Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 02:00 AM To: Wikimedia India Community list Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia Ravi, with all due respect. It's been 15 mails on this thread and there is nothing about what the thread subject says: Kannada. There is talk

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-19 Thread Abhilash S Unni
: Wikimedia India Community list Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia Ravi, with all due respect. It's been 15 mails on this thread and there is nothing about what the thread subject says: Kannada. There is talk of Tulu, but no Kannada. On 20 May

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-19 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Ravi, with all due respect. It's been 15 mails on this thread and there is nothing about what the thread subject says: Kannada. There is talk of Tulu, but no Kannada. On 20 May 2014 01:49, Ravishankar wrote: > Pavanaja, > > Thanks for providing info regarding outcomes from your efforts in Tulu

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-19 Thread Ravishankar
Pavanaja, Thanks for providing info regarding outcomes from your efforts in Tulu Wikipedia outreach and Kannada Wikipedia education program. I will provide a detailed response by tomorrow. Hey Srikanth and others, Doesn't matter if I asked for Tulu stats. I appreciate Pavanaj's efforts to highl

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-19 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
and you are free to correct my wrong understanding. > > > > Abhi > > > > *From:* wikimediaindia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [ > mailto:wikimediaindia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] > *On Behalf Of *Pavanaja U B > *Sent:* Monday, May 19, 2014 12:03 PM > *To:*

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-19 Thread Pavanaja U B
ja From: wikimediaindia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaindia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Abhilash S Unni Sent: 19 May 2014 12:52 To: 'Wikimedia India Community list' Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia Sorry,

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-19 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
n just one month as I already > wrote. > > > > Regards, > > Pavanaja > > > > > > *From:* wikimediaindia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [ > mailto:wikimediaindia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] > *On Behalf Of *ansuman > *Sent:* 18 May 2014 21:06 > *To:

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-19 Thread Abhilash S Unni
aindia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org> [mailto:wikimediaindia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of ansuman Sent: 18 May 2014 21:06 To: Wikimedia India Community list Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia The Subject line says "Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedi

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-19 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
ay 2014 21:06 > > *To:* Wikimedia India Community list > *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia > > > > The Subject line says "Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia". Why the > stats for Tulu ? > > No wonder, they a

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-18 Thread Pavanaja U B
, Pavanaja From: wikimediaindia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaindia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Srikanth Ramakrishnan Sent: 18 May 2014 20:45 To: India public list Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia Editors with

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-18 Thread Pavanaja U B
To: Wikimedia India Community list Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia The Subject line says "Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia". Why the stats for Tulu ? No wonder, they always try to cover up with something else!!! Anyway in the stats, tho

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-18 Thread ansuman
The Subject line says "Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia". Why the stats for Tulu ? No wonder, they always try to cover up with something else!!! Anyway in the stats, those numbers are overall from 2007, not just one month's. Ansuman On 18 May 2014 20:45, Srikanth Ramakrishnan wrote:

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-18 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Editors with 10 edit count? That's nothing great. Half of them might have edited from the workshop itself and then disappeared. Also, edit counts are never considered a good measure of success. Are there any real metrics being used? On May 18, 2014 7:00 PM, "Pavanaja U B" wrote: > Dear Ravi, > >

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-18 Thread Pavanaja U B
Dear Ravi, 1.Tulu Wikipedia outreach programs and outcome: Please look at the work plan here and the stats mentioned – https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_Knowledge/Draft_Work_plan_July_2014_-_June_2015/Making_the_Tulu_Wikipedia_Live. Pay little attention to these numbers (e

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-18 Thread Ravishankar
Hari, I will appreciate if you could discuss this in Kannada Wikipedia Village pump and mailing list being a Kannada Wiki contributor yourself and educate the Indian Wikimedia community. I am afraid that this won't be a good first mail from me for the Kannada community :) Ravi __

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-18 Thread Ravishankar
Vikram, Except for Christ University workshops, I assume all other outreach efforts are one time events. Let us wait two more years to understand what the Christ University experiment delivers :) Ravi ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-17 Thread Hari Prasad Nadig
Ravi, You should perhaps post this to the Kannada Wikipedia mailing list to get some answers from some actual contributors. On 17 May 2014 16:40, Ravishankar wrote: > MarHey, > > Any community member here from Kannada Wikipedia? > > I would like to understand the outcome of CIS work there. >

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-17 Thread Vikram Vincent
Hi, Just a small observation from my side: On 17 May 2014 16:40, Ravishankar wrote: > http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-karnataka/wikipedia-taps-students-for-kannada-content/article5824580.ece > where Pavanaja quotes as follows: > //There was a significant increase in the numbe

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-17 Thread Ravishankar
Hey, The last mail should just start with hey. Marhey is a typo. Check https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_Knowledge/Events#March_2014for the list of paid outreach events which have disputable value. I assume that such outreaches are done despite the value to hunt for potential partn