Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-21 Thread Ravishankar
Pavanaja, Thanks for the explaining the outcome of Tulu Workshops and Christ University partnership. While you take a microscopic view of the recent activity and ask me to be optimistic, I would like to be realistic after taking a macroscopic view on past activities. Please see

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-21 Thread Ravishankar
(Continued from http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2014-May/011389.html ) Hang on ! While all these stats highlight the people who make 5+ edits, the real strength of any Wikipedia is people who make 100+, 1000+, 2500+ edits per month. Only those Wikipedias which manage to

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-21 Thread Ravishankar
(Continued from http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2014-May/011390.html ) OK, where were we :) Ah yes, I was asking about the outcome of CIS's work in general in Kannada Wikipedia. I wanted to hear the story from the community as most of the reports by CIS are unilateral. So,

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-20 Thread Hari Prasad Nadig
As a sysop, significant contributor and presently an avid observer on Kannada Wikipedia, I can say that it is true that the user activity has returned to pre-education programme levels within a month or faster than that. In fact, there has not been considerable increase in quality or momentum on

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-20 Thread Vikram Vincent
Hi HPN, On 21 May 2014 08:21, Hari Prasad Nadig hpna...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps we should hear more from the fellow Wikimedians who're neutral and friends on Kannada Wikipedia mailing list who're neutral to assess the actual impact than from CIS's partners (Christ College as on this thread,

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-19 Thread Pavanaja U B
To: Wikimedia India Community list Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia The Subject line says Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia. Why the stats for Tulu ? No wonder, they always try to cover up with something else!!! Anyway in the stats, those numbers

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-19 Thread Pavanaja U B
...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaindia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Srikanth Ramakrishnan Sent: 18 May 2014 20:45 To: India public list Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia Editors with 10 edit count? That's nothing great. Half of them might have

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-19 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia The Subject line says Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia. Why the stats for Tulu ? No wonder, they always try to cover up with something else!!! Anyway in the stats, those numbers are overall from 2007, not just one month's. Ansuman On 18

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-19 Thread Abhilash S Unni
...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaindia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of ansuman Sent: 18 May 2014 21:06 To: Wikimedia India Community list Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia The Subject line says Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia. Why the stats for Tulu

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-19 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
...@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *ansuman *Sent:* 18 May 2014 21:06 *To:* Wikimedia India Community list *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia The Subject line says Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia. Why the stats for Tulu ? No wonder

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-19 Thread Pavanaja U B
From: wikimediaindia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaindia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Abhilash S Unni Sent: 19 May 2014 12:52 To: 'Wikimedia India Community list' Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia Sorry, I may be getting

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-19 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
, Pavanaja *From:* wikimediaindia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: wikimediaindia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Abhilash S Unni *Sent:* 19 May 2014 12:52 *To:* 'Wikimedia India Community list' *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-19 Thread Ravishankar
Pavanaja, Thanks for providing info regarding outcomes from your efforts in Tulu Wikipedia outreach and Kannada Wikipedia education program. I will provide a detailed response by tomorrow. Hey Srikanth and others, Doesn't matter if I asked for Tulu stats. I appreciate Pavanaj's efforts to

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-19 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Ravi, with all due respect. It's been 15 mails on this thread and there is nothing about what the thread subject says: Kannada. There is talk of Tulu, but no Kannada. On 20 May 2014 01:49, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: Pavanaja, Thanks for providing info regarding outcomes from

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-19 Thread Abhilash S Unni
To: Wikimedia India Community list Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia Ravi, with all due respect. It's been 15 mails on this thread and there is nothing about what the thread subject says: Kannada. There is talk of Tulu, but no Kannada. On 20 May 2014

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-19 Thread Pavanaja U B
: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 02:00 AM To: Wikimedia India Community list Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia Ravi, with all due respect. It's been 15 mails on this thread and there is nothing about what the thread subject says: Kannada. There is talk of Tulu

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-19 Thread sankarshan
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Pavanaja U B pavan...@vishvakannada.com wrote: The very first email in this thread by Ravi had two main queries –one was about Tulu Wikipedia workshop and another one about Christ University project. I have answered both of them. Since both questions were asked

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-18 Thread Ravishankar
Vikram, Except for Christ University workshops, I assume all other outreach efforts are one time events. Let us wait two more years to understand what the Christ University experiment delivers :) Ravi ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-18 Thread Ravishankar
Hari, I will appreciate if you could discuss this in Kannada Wikipedia Village pump and mailing list being a Kannada Wiki contributor yourself and educate the Indian Wikimedia community. I am afraid that this won't be a good first mail from me for the Kannada community :) Ravi

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-18 Thread Pavanaja U B
Dear Ravi, 1.Tulu Wikipedia outreach programs and outcome: Please look at the work plan here and the stats mentioned – https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_Knowledge/Draft_Work_plan_July_2014_-_June_2015/Making_the_Tulu_Wikipedia_Live. Pay little attention to these numbers

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-18 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Editors with 10 edit count? That's nothing great. Half of them might have edited from the workshop itself and then disappeared. Also, edit counts are never considered a good measure of success. Are there any real metrics being used? On May 18, 2014 7:00 PM, Pavanaja U B pavan...@vishvakannada.com

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-18 Thread ansuman
The Subject line says Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia. Why the stats for Tulu ? No wonder, they always try to cover up with something else!!! Anyway in the stats, those numbers are overall from 2007, not just one month's. Ansuman On 18 May 2014 20:45, Srikanth Ramakrishnan

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-17 Thread Ravishankar
Hey, The last mail should just start with hey. Marhey is a typo. Check https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_Knowledge/Events#March_2014for the list of paid outreach events which have disputable value. I assume that such outreaches are done despite the value to hunt for potential

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

2014-05-17 Thread Hari Prasad Nadig
Ravi, You should perhaps post this to the Kannada Wikipedia mailing list to get some answers from some actual contributors. On 17 May 2014 16:40, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: MarHey, Any community member here from Kannada Wikipedia? I would like to understand the outcome of