Re: [Wikimediauk-l] What should we spend our money on?

2009-10-20 Thread geni
2009/10/19 Andrew Turvey : > The 2009 Annual Wikimedia Fundraiser is just round the corner and we need to > crystallize the list of items that we will use our income for so that we can > encourage people to donate. > > I've done a first draft at > http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/2009_Winter_Fundrai

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] C&binet Forum

2009-10-20 Thread paul reynolds
I was at the Aus GLAM wiki event and foubd the Wikimedia aus people stimulating and and an egageing. I joined this list hoping for more of the same. Especially as the whole way in which wikimedia can engage with big new debates on open acceess , public space , public private etc is up for bebate ,

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] C&binet Forum

2009-10-20 Thread Bod Notbod
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 7:08 PM, geni wrote: > Can you get him to meet some famous musicians? Childhood TV stars > perhaps? No? Your opinion means approx diddly squat then. I was under no illusions that Peter Mandelson would drop to his knees and suck my cock for making hitherto unthought of ide

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] C&binet Forum

2009-10-20 Thread geni
2009/10/20 Bod Notbod : > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Brian McNeil > wrote: > > Joking aside, I think that if I had a moment alone with Peter > Mandelson and could curb my violent impulses for five minutes, I'd put > it to him that cutting off someone's internet for illegal downloading > is a

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] C&binet Forum

2009-10-20 Thread geni
2009/10/20 Brian McNeil : > What is, actually, conspicuously absent from the discussion is whether > anyone has a *right* to make a profit on these creative works. Copyright > is a social contract; society grants a work's creator(s) a limited > duration monopoly to allow them the *opportunity* to m

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] C&binet Forum

2009-10-20 Thread Brian McNeil
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 18:16 +0100, Bod Notbod wrote: > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Brian McNeil > wrote: > > Arstechnica has a good article relating to this today. Those > > well-entrenched and profiting from creative works have a 100+ year > > history of scaremongering and depriving the p

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] C&binet Forum

2009-10-20 Thread Bod Notbod
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Brian McNeil wrote: Joking aside, I think that if I had a moment alone with Peter Mandelson and could curb my violent impulses for five minutes, I'd put it to him that cutting off someone's internet for illegal downloading is a punishment liable to be suffered as

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] C&binet Forum

2009-10-20 Thread Brian McNeil
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 16:30 +0100, Bod Notbod wrote: > On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Andrew Turvey > wrote: > > > > Peter Mandelson is a keynote speaker, which could be an important > > opportunity to put the case for public > > domain to a key decision maker. > > > > My question: what shou

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] C&binet Forum

2009-10-20 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/10/20 Bod Notbod : > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Michael Peel wrote: > >> ... or perhaps not. Wikimedia UK is a peaceful organization, as is >> Wikimedia as a whole, and I'm sure that none of our members would >> ever seriously consider doing anything like this. > > The North Korean Chap

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Next board meeting: this evening, with a different format

2009-10-20 Thread Michael Peel
On 20 Oct 2009, at 14:45, Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2009/10/20 Michael Peel : >> I'm not aware of a way to record a Skype conference without requiring >> an external device (i.e. recording the signal to the speaker, rather >> than digitally within the computer); if anyone knows a way to do >> this,

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] C&binet Forum

2009-10-20 Thread Bod Notbod
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Michael Peel wrote: > ... or perhaps not. Wikimedia UK is a peaceful organization, as is > Wikimedia as a whole, and I'm sure that none of our members would > ever seriously consider doing anything like this. The North Korean Chapter has nukes. We're way behind

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] C&binet Forum

2009-10-20 Thread Isabell Long
2009/10/20 Michael Peel : > ... or perhaps not. Wikimedia UK is a peaceful organization, as is > Wikimedia as a whole, and I'm sure that none of our members would > ever seriously consider doing anything like this. No, hopefully not, but what Bod said was pretty funny (to me at least!) -- Regard

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] C&binet Forum

2009-10-20 Thread Michael Peel
... or perhaps not. Wikimedia UK is a peaceful organization, as is Wikimedia as a whole, and I'm sure that none of our members would ever seriously consider doing anything like this. Mike On 20 Oct 2009, at 16:30, Bod Notbod wrote: > On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Andrew Turvey > wrote:

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] C&binet Forum

2009-10-20 Thread Bod Notbod
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Andrew Turvey wrote: > Peter Mandelson is a keynote speaker, which could be an important opportunity > to put the case for public > domain to a key decision maker. > > My question: what should I focus on at this conference and what should I aim > to get out of

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Next board meeting: this evening, with a different format

2009-10-20 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/10/20 Michael Peel : > I'm not aware of a way to record a Skype conference without requiring > an external device (i.e. recording the signal to the speaker, rather > than digitally within the computer); if anyone knows a way to do > this, then the meetings should definitely be recorded. It rem

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Next board meeting: this evening, with a different format

2009-10-20 Thread Michael Peel
On 20 Oct 2009, at 14:25, Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2009/10/20 Michael Peel : >> That technical limitation. :-) Also, there are concerns about the >> required connection speed for hosting a multi-way conference like >> this (as I understand it, the calls are all routed through the host >> computer),

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Next board meeting: this evening, with a different format

2009-10-20 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/10/20 Michael Peel : > That technical limitation. :-) Also, there are concerns about the > required connection speed for hosting a multi-way conference like > this (as I understand it, the calls are all routed through the host > computer), and also the quality of the connections (I believe thi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Next board meeting: this evening, with a different format

2009-10-20 Thread Michael Peel
On 20 Oct 2009, at 12:28, Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2009/10/20 Thomas Dalton : >> 2009/10/20 Michael Peel : >>> The first hour of the meeting, 8.30-9.30pm, will be held by Skype >>> conference. This part of the meeting will be discussions, not >>> decisions, and will essentially be focused on making

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Next board meeting: this evening, with a different format

2009-10-20 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/10/20 Thomas Dalton : > 2009/10/20 Michael Peel : >> The first hour of the meeting, 8.30-9.30pm, will be held by Skype >> conference. This part of the meeting will be discussions, not >> decisions, and will essentially be focused on making sure that all of >> the board members are on the same

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Next board meeting: this evening, with a different format

2009-10-20 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/10/20 Michael Peel : > The first hour of the meeting, 8.30-9.30pm, will be held by Skype > conference. This part of the meeting will be discussions, not > decisions, and will essentially be focused on making sure that all of > the board members are on the same page, and to identify issues that

[Wikimediauk-l] Next board meeting: this evening, with a different format

2009-10-20 Thread Michael Peel
Hi all, The next board meeting is this evening: Tuesday 20 October 2009, 8.30-10.30pm BST. The agenda is at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetings/2009-10-20/Agenda Following from a conversation at the in-person board meeting, we'll be trying something different this meeting to try to optimiz