Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK censorship: I'm on BBC Radio 4 Today show tomorrow 8:20am (and then IWF backs down on Wiki censorship)

2008-12-09 Thread Theresa Knott
Excellent news! Theresa On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 11:17 PM, Gordon Joly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 22:17 + 9/12/08, Gordon Joly wrote: >>IWF backs down on Wiki censorship >> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7774102.stm > > http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/IWF_reverses_censorship_of_Wikipe

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK censorship: I'm on BBC Radio 4 Today show tomorrow 8:20am (and then IWF backs down on Wiki censorship)

2008-12-09 Thread Gordon Joly
At 22:17 + 9/12/08, Gordon Joly wrote: >IWF backs down on Wiki censorship > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7774102.stm http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/IWF_reverses_censorship_of_Wikipedia?curid=117966 -- "Think Feynman"/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]///

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK censorship: I'm on BBC Radio 4 Today show tomorrow 8:20am (and then IWF backs down on Wiki censorship)

2008-12-09 Thread Gordon Joly
IWF backs down on Wiki censorship http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7774102.stm -- "Think Feynman"/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK h

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK censorship: I'm on BBC Radio 4 Today show tomorrow 8:20am

2008-12-08 Thread Andrew Gray
2008/12/8 Alison Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, December 8, 2008 18:35, jonathan cardy wrote: >> Amazon don't seem to have the image up - I've just searched for scorpion >> killers and got half a dozen hits, a couple with a photo of the band and >> the rest with "no image available". > > Th

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK censorship: I'm on BBC Radio 4 Today show tomorrow 8:20am

2008-12-08 Thread Alison Wheeler
On Mon, December 8, 2008 18:35, jonathan cardy wrote: > Amazon don't seem to have the image up - I've just searched for scorpion > killers and got half a dozen hits, a couple with a photo of the band and > the rest with "no image available". They deleted the three 'user supplied' copies around hal

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK censorship: I'm on BBC Radio 4 Today show tomorrow 8:20am

2008-12-08 Thread jonathan cardy
rds Jonathan Cardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- On Mon, 8/12/08, joseph seddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: joseph seddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK censorship: I'm on BBC Radio 4 Today show > tomorrow 8:20am > To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK censorship: I'm on BBC Radio 4 Today show tomorrow 8:20am

2008-12-08 Thread joseph seddon
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK censorship: I'm on BBC Radio 4 Today show tomorrow 8:20am> > > You are, of course, right.> > That doesn't change, however, that this image is not illegal to view, it's>

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK censorship: I'm on BBC Radio 4 Today show tomorrow 8:20am

2008-12-08 Thread Thomas Dalton
> You are, of course, right. > That doesn't change, however, that this image is not illegal to view, it's > merely in a greyer legal area of "might be illegal". Which does nothing to > change the IWF's shameful overreach in blocking the article as well as the > image — and in doing such a cack-hand

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK censorship: I'm on BBC Radio 4 Today show tomorrow 8:20am

2008-12-08 Thread Owen Blacker
2008/12/8 Thomas Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > As no jury has, to my knowledge, ever determined that this image meets > that > > test, then the image does not qualify as indecent under English law. At > > elast until some jury decides to the contrary. > > No, that doesn't work. If it only becom

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK censorship: I'm on BBC Radio 4 Today show tomorrow 8:20am

2008-12-08 Thread Thomas Dalton
2008/12/8 Owen Blacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The legal definition of indecent, in this context, under English law, > appears to be "anything which and ordinary decent man or woman would find to > be shocking, disgusting, or revolting" (Knuller vs DPP, 1973). That sounds about right. > As no jury

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK censorship: I'm on BBC Radio 4 Today show tomorrow 8:20am

2008-12-08 Thread Owen Blacker
The legal definition of indecent, in this context, under English law, appears to be "anything which and ordinary decent man or woman would find to be shocking, disgusting, or revolting" (Knuller vs DPP, 1973). As no jury has, to my knowledge, ever determined that this image meets that test, then th

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK censorship: I'm on BBC Radio 4 Today show tomorrow 8:20am

2008-12-08 Thread Thomas Dalton
> I think a better analogy would be paintings in galleries which depict under > 18s, many of which could be considered "Images depicting erotic posing with > no sexual activity". I am thinking of some of the paintings of Caravaggio, > almost any depiction of Ganymede etc. An under 18 naked in an e

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK censorship: I'm on BBC Radio 4 Today show tomorrow 8:20am

2008-12-08 Thread James Hardy
2008/12/8 Thomas Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 2008/12/7 David Gerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > It's now mainstream. IWF representative to be present. I look forward > > to dropping in the line "Wikipedia smells of hammers." ([[Brass Eye]]) > > I particularly liked the line "We're an educational cha

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK censorship: I'm on BBC Radio 4 Today show tomorrow 8:20am

2008-12-08 Thread Tim Starling
Gregory Maxwell wrote: > It would be super-fantastic if someone could confirm that you can just > walk into a record store in the UK and buy it. There are stores here > that have it, I'm tempted to go get a picture of myself holding... and > start a campaign of other folks doing that. I'm not sure

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK censorship: I'm on BBC Radio 4 Today show tomorrow 8:20am

2008-12-08 Thread Thomas Dalton
2008/12/7 David Gerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > It's now mainstream. IWF representative to be present. I look forward > to dropping in the line "Wikipedia smells of hammers." ([[Brass Eye]]) I particularly liked the line "We're an educational charity." - I think it was good that you that in, I sugge

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK censorship: I'm on BBC Radio 4 Today show tomorrow 8:20am

2008-12-07 Thread AndrewRT
excellent - well done David, please let us know how it goes. On Dec 7, 5:31 pm, "David Gerard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's now mainstream. IWF representative to be present. I look forward > to dropping in the line "Wikipedia smells of hammers." ([[Brass Eye]]) > > - d. > > __