Re: [Wikitech-l] Blame maps aka authorship detection

2013-02-26 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/26/2013 02:29 AM, Luca de Alfaro wrote: - We need a way to poll the database for things like what are all revision_ids of a given page. We could use the API instead, but it's less efficient. Yes, as others have said LAbs should allow that either now or shortly. You should sign

Re: [Wikitech-l] Better non-MySQL db support

2013-02-26 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/26/2013 02:14 PM, Luke Welling WMF wrote: Specifically, do we use MySQL specific syntax that is more efficient (but breaks elsewhere) or do we attempt to write lowest common denominator SQL that will run more places, but not run as efficiently on our primary target? There's a DB layer

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit reports

2013-02-26 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/19/2013 02:36 AM, MZMcBride wrote: Hi. I wrote https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/Reports over the weekend. Cool! And a creative bot name, as always. Matt Flaschen ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Nagios is dead, long live icinga!

2013-02-26 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/26/2013 11:35 PM, Jeremy Baron wrote: On Feb 26, 2013 11:25 PM, Matthew Bowker matthewrbowker.w...@me.com wrote: I hate to be that guy, but is it supposed to be password protected? Is there somewhere non-ops people can look for server status, or is http://status.wikimedia.org it? try

Re: [Wikitech-l] Nagios is dead, long live icinga!

2013-02-26 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/26/2013 11:55 PM, Leslie Carr wrote: Thanks - I'll try to get status.wikimedia updated in the morning. Can you try with https now ? I had forgotten to reload apache when pushing out a change to the https config (to allow https without login). You can also use http. HTTPS works.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bringing OpenID as a provider to Wikimedia projects

2013-02-25 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/23/2013 02:46 PM, Casey Brown wrote: Would the fact that Bugzilla uses your e-mail address publicly for everything (rather than a separate account name) cause any problems when switching to OpenID? It should be careful not to publicize people's wiki email (sometimes private and used only

Re: [Wikitech-l] Better non-MySQL db support

2013-02-25 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/25/2013 12:53 PM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: The question: what do we need to test more often to keep RDBMSes happy? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Database_testing https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/New_installer/Test_plan Permissions, searching, schema setup, schema changes, quoting

Re: [Wikitech-l] Blame maps aka authorship detection

2013-02-25 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/25/2013 09:21 PM, Luca de Alfaro wrote: I am writing this message as we hope this might be of interest, and as we would be quite happy to find people willing to collaborate. Is anybody interested in developing a GUI for it and talk to us about what API we should have for retrieving this

Re: [Wikitech-l] Do we need to change the MW release process to better involve the non-WMF community?

2013-02-22 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/22/2013 09:38 PM, Chad wrote: So, I've seen this site tossed around quite a bit recently, and I'm curious: is there any plan to start integrating this jenkins and our other jenkins? More importantly: is there any chance to get the results of these sorts of tests in Gerrit? I think it's

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bringing OpenID as a provider to Wikimedia projects

2013-02-22 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/22/2013 03:43 PM, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: On 02/22/2013 03:17 PM, maiki wrote: Is this up for discussion, or are we at the point of planning deployment? The latter. I can elucidate a number of scenarios where that is beneficial, but the primary one from my perspective is that of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bringing OpenID as a provider to Wikimedia projects

2013-02-22 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/22/2013 06:33 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: Which coincides to several bots/tools and would generally be quite useful. Quite honestly having bots make edits directly on someones behalf using their account sounds scary. For autonomous bots, yes (they should keep using their own accounts). But

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bringing OpenID as a provider to Wikimedia projects

2013-02-22 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/22/2013 11:32 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: What ive always wondered is what happens if your oid provider goes under/otherwise dissapears. I imagine that means you lose your user account all across the internet, which is a scary thought Some sites, like Stack Overflow, allow you to add

Re: [Wikitech-l] New IEG Proposal: Revision History Visualizer and Improvement Suggester using Geo-Spatial Technologies

2013-02-16 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/16/2013 01:50 PM, Basil George wrote: *We have tried to address the privacy issues in obtaining IPs herehttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:IEG/Mapping_History:_Revision_History_Visualizer_and_Improvement_Suggester_using_Geo-Spatial_Technologies#Addressing_privacy_concerns. As we

Re: [Wikitech-l] New IEG Proposal: Revision History Visualizer and Improvement Suggester using Geo-Spatial Technologies

2013-02-16 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/16/2013 12:30 PM, Basil George wrote: Please go through the proposal herehttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Mapping_History:_Revision_History_Visualizer_and_Improvement_Tracker_using_Geo-Spatial_Technologies and do endorse it if you find it interesting. I also think you should

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Lua rollout to en.wikipedia.org and a few others

2013-02-15 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/15/2013 06:03 PM, Sîrbu Nicolae-Cezar wrote: Hello, What is Lua? Thanks, Sirbu Nicolae-Cezar It is a programming language used for embedded scripting. Scribunto is a MediaWiki extension that allows you to write templates in Lua (other languages possibly coming later). Done right,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Lua rollout to en.wikipedia.org and a few others

2013-02-15 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/15/2013 03:33 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote: Hi everyone, We're planning to deploy Lua to a long list of wikis on Monday, February 18, 23:00-01:00 UTC (stretching into Tuesday UTC), including English Wikipedia. Details here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Lua This is A Big Deal.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revoking +2 (Re: who can merge into core/master?)

2013-02-14 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/14/2013 07:29 PM, Krinkle wrote: Due to the way Git and Gerrit interact, a revert (unlike a merge) is a two-step process. It considers it to be a separate commit (which it is, of course). So clicking Revert only drafts a commit, it still needs to be merged. This is generally done

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Re: How to speed up the review in gerrit?

2013-02-13 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/13/2013 07:57 PM, Chad wrote: On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: Maybe our rule should be: if an extension is not deployed on Wikimedia sites, then we should basically allow anyone to merge new code in (disallowing self-merges), unless the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making the query opensearch API working fine on a self hosted wikimedia server

2013-02-13 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/13/2013 09:20 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: And more importantly https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MWSearchalong There was a typo. The URL is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MWSearch Matt Flaschen ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Re: How to speed up the review in gerrit?

2013-02-13 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/14/2013 12:04 AM, Dmitriy Sintsov wrote: That is a really great idea. If there were mediawiki/extensions/(wmf|non-wmf-unimportant|non-wmf-important)/* subdirectories introduced, such classification should encourage extension developers to improve their extensions so they can move up

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Re: How to speed up the review in gerrit?

2013-02-13 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/14/2013 12:25 AM, Brian Wolff wrote: I would consider git pull to mysteriously stop working because somebody moved the git repo to be a pretty big disadvantage. Similar to what I said earlier, I don't think anyone needs to request review/merge rights for all non-WMF less important

Re: [Wikitech-l] Stable PHP API for MediaWiki ?

2013-02-11 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/11/2013 09:50 AM, Brian Wolff wrote: Maria: see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Calling_internally for info on calling the api internally. I think you're misunderstanding what she's saying. She's talk about ordinary PHP classes, methods and hooks, basically the way an extension

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit 2.6 - coming to a server near you

2013-02-11 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/11/2013 09:33 PM, Chad wrote: There might be a few problems left over with the IRC notifications, I'll tackle those tomorrow (making sure replication is working properly now). If you spot any other problems, please let me know. I'm getting Internal Server Error intermittently in the add

Re: [Wikitech-l] Password requirements RFC

2013-02-11 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/11/2013 10:27 AM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: On 02/08/2013 02:31 PM, Matthew Flaschen wrote: I've started an RFC about making password requirements stronger, in a workable way that is configurable by group. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Password_requirements

Re: [Wikitech-l] NullLockManager and the math extension

2013-02-08 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/08/2013 12:55 PM, Aaron Schulz wrote: Yes a654a6e79adc8f4730bb69f79e0b6a960d7d3cbe should be fixed. It should add the nullLockManager back. Done, please review. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/48144/ Thanks, Matt Flaschen ___ Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Technical design review of extension

2013-02-08 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/08/2013 08:35 PM, Paul Selitskas wrote: According to the manual, as there were no pros heard from Design-l, now the extension must undergo a technical design review, before it is decided whether the extension is able to fly on production sites - deployment review. Out of curiosity,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Github Extensions

2013-02-07 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/07/2013 03:14 AM, MZMcBride wrote: Sure, I picked Gists. It didn't seem like a very difficult choice. All cleaned up (redirected) now. I don't think that makes sense. If someone has a link to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Gist from a README or something, they're now going to a

Re: [Wikitech-l] NullLockManager and the math extension

2013-02-07 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/06/2013 08:09 PM, Aaron Schulz wrote: nullLockManager is defined in Setup.php.The code: LockManagerGroup::singleton()-get( 'nullLockManager' ); ... works fine in eval.php and is used in production. However, $wgLockManagers is redefined in parserTest.inc . It looks like it's basically

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: IRC office hours with the Editor Engagement Experiments team

2013-02-06 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/05/2013 04:45 AM, MZMcBride wrote: you have a link to a demo? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page?tour=test And gettingstarted. E.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia?tour=gettingstarted . Matt Flaschen ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge Vector extension into core

2013-02-06 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/05/2013 10:31 PM, Tim Starling wrote: On 06/02/13 00:12, Matma Rex wrote: Vector is a weird mess of extensions to the skin, extensions to general functionality, and unused broken scripts. Merging it properly would require some work and some deleting. That sounds like a good reason to

[Wikitech-l] NullLockManager and the math extension

2013-02-06 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On my local Vagrant MediaWiki install (https://github.com/wikimedia/wmf-vagrant), I'm getting: Running test BUG 1887, part 2: A math with a thumbnail- math enabled... No lock manager defined with the name `nullLockManager`. when running the parser tests: php tests/parserTests.php

Re: [Wikitech-l] Github Extensions

2013-02-06 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/07/2013 01:02 AM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: Who's we? WMF isn't using any for obvious reasons (arbitrary code injection). We is the Wikimedia technical community, I'd wager. :-) My point was three different people made those extensions, and while we can encourage them to work

Re: [Wikitech-l] Github Extensions

2013-02-06 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/07/2013 01:17 AM, Tyler Romeo wrote: Yes, but we don't have to keep all three extension pages. As the MediaWiki community, don't we want to make things simpler for sysadmins? We can't force them to work together, but I don't see how keeping all three extensions on MW.org is useful. I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: IRC office hours with the Editor Engagement Experiments team

2013-02-04 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/04/2013 03:58 PM, Steven Walling wrote: Sorry for cross-posting, but for MediaWiki developers, this is a good opportunity to ask any questions you might have about the newly-released Extension:GuidedTour, and how to leverage it to build any tours yourself. Specifically, any extension

Re: [Wikitech-l] Asynchronous JavaScript execution order questions

2013-02-01 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 01/30/2013 11:36 AM, Daniel Renfro wrote: We're finding that when using jQuery's .ready() (or similar) function, the callbacks seem to execute in different (unexepected, browser-dependent) order. This causes errors. jQuery will execute ready events in the order bound. See e.g.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Asynchronous JavaScript execution order questions

2013-02-01 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 01/31/2013 03:08 AM, Robert Vogel wrote: Hi Daniel, I'm not very experienced with ResourceLoader, but maybe 'mw.loader.using()' [1] suits your needs. You can specify a module dependency and a callback function on the client side. using is the right solution for server scripts, or

Re: [Wikitech-l] varying ResourceLoader module dependencies

2013-01-28 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 01/28/2013 04:55 PM, Krinkle wrote: Requiring that the wiki install it seems like a trivial thing. That can't be the real reason. I presume that when you say it is unknown whether the wiki has it installed, the real issue is that it is unknown whether the wiki has it enabled at this

Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcoming Runa Bhattacharjee

2013-01-28 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 01/28/2013 04:10 PM, Alolita Sharma wrote: Runa believes newer platforms and devices used for content delivery and adoption through local languages make it an exciting time for growth of open source language tools. Welcome! Indeed, it's an exciting time. Matt Flaschen

Re: [Wikitech-l] varying ResourceLoader module dependencies

2013-01-27 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 01/27/2013 07:58 PM, S Page wrote: How can an extension have a soft requirement on a module, so that it only adds that module to its ResourceLoader dependencies if the extension providing that module is loaded? For example, there's no sense in depending on ext.eventLog if the wiki

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reporting errors from the API

2013-01-25 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 01/25/2013 08:01 AM, Daniel Kinzler wrote: * When using system messages to translate the error codes from the API, these messages will often contain wikitext. How can we best avoid this? Wikitext is likely to be quite useless to the client - it would be better to return HTML; or pass all

Re: [Wikitech-l] Limiting storage/generation of thumbnails without loss of functionality

2013-01-24 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 01/24/2013 04:28 AM, Georgiy Tugai wrote: Also, a lightbox feature may help - expand the image to the full size (as sent by the server) on click, then link to the file page upon a second click (hide the lightbox upon a click outside of the image borders). I am unsure how difficult this

Re: [Wikitech-l] Limiting storage/generation of thumbnails without loss of functionality

2013-01-23 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 01/23/2013 10:07 PM, Georgiy Tugai wrote: As the linked thread mentioned, MediaWiki is used on many deployments outside of Wikimedia. For example, I'm running three instances on a server with 10 GB of disk space. Therefore, this should be an option in LocalSettings.php rather than a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Html comments into raw wiki code: can they be wrapped into parsed html?

2013-01-22 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 01/22/2013 05:24 PM, Paul Selitskas wrote: It will just strip the whole attribute if there is a quote in. That is why we have {{urlencode:{{{1}}}|WIKI}} (or any other mode). URL-encoding is not the same as HTML-encoding for an attribute. I'm not sure if we have a parser function for the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Html comments into raw wiki code: can they be wrapped into parsed html?

2013-01-22 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 01/22/2013 07:52 PM, Paul Selitskas wrote: Filed a bug report: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44262. On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:34 AM, Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On 01/22/2013 05:24 PM, Paul Selitskas wrote: It will just strip the whole attribute

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why are we still using captchas on WMF sites?

2013-01-21 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 01/21/2013 03:00 AM, David Gerard wrote: On 21 January 2013 07:56, Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org wrote: at all implies that some spambots are blocked at least? Yes, but to count as successful it would have to block approximately all, I'd think. That's dubious. Blocking all

Re: [Wikitech-l] Disable module mediawiki.searchSuggest in MW 1.20+

2013-01-16 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 01/15/2013 03:18 AM, Robert Vogel wrote: Hi everybody! I'm writing an extension that needs to replace/disable the build-in suggestion feature of the search box. In earlier versions this could be archived by setting $wgEnableMWSuggest

Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcome, Munagala Ramanath (Ram)

2013-01-15 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 01/15/2013 03:08 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote: Hi everyone, I’m delighted to introduce Munagala Ramanath (a.k.a. “Ram”), who started yesterday as a Senior Software Engineer in our Platform Engineering group (MediaWiki Core, specifically). Welcome, Ram! I look forward to working with you.

Re: [Wikitech-l] The ultimate bikeshed: typos in commit messages

2013-01-15 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 01/15/2013 06:58 AM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: In my opinion, if the typo is trivial (f.e. someone typed fo instead of of), there is no need to -1 the commit, however if the typo pertains to a crucial element of the commit (f.e. someone typed fixed wkidata bug) perhaps it should, since

Re: [Wikitech-l] want to work with WikiMedia Foundation

2013-01-14 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 01/14/2013 11:01 PM, Harsh Kothari wrote: Hi Shailja Thanks for your interest. You can go through it http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker Here is all the details you want. Need any help just ping . Hope you will get your information. I'd also be glad to

Re: [Wikitech-l] ContentHandler examples?

2013-01-12 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 01/12/2013 09:15 AM, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: The more I look at ContentHandler, the more it seems like a major new feature for MW. Are there any examples of this in use on Labs? Is there more information on how to use and extend it for things like WorkingWiki? There is some talk

Re: [Wikitech-l] ContentHandler examples?

2013-01-12 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 01/12/2013 10:02 AM, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: On 01/12/2013 09:32 AM, Matthew Flaschen wrote: Last I heard, significant progress was made on 2.0, but the project is currently on hold. Thus, there's not a need to notify people right away. When the time comes, I don't think initial

Re: [Wikitech-l] ContentHandler examples?

2013-01-12 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 01/12/2013 09:59 AM, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: On 01/12/2013 09:32 AM, Matthew Flaschen wrote: On 01/12/2013 09:15 AM, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: Are there any examples of this in use on Labs? Is there more information on how to use and extend it for things like WorkingWiki? Matt

Re: [Wikitech-l] ContentHandler examples?

2013-01-12 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 01/12/2013 06:40 PM, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: On 01/12/2013 04:33 PM, Matthew Flaschen wrote: That will cause problems throughout wikidom. Yes, if the issue was ignored. However, I believe a bot could do the one-time conversion. This solution is just as good as ignoring the problem

Re: [Wikitech-l] Developers: what are you working on? (or Improving the release notes for 1.21)

2013-01-09 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 01/09/2013 02:03 PM, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: We're still a few months from a release of 1.21, but I'd like to start thinking about what we can tell the users of MediaWiki about it. In that vein, what changes or features have you been working on? I'll spend some time looking over the

Re: [Wikitech-l] What's our Bus Factor?

2013-01-09 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 01/09/2013 08:56 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: It's the new year, and in light of the recent poll about which devs are working on what, let me make another, albeit vaguely macabre, suggestion: If you're a developer, or other staffer, can the people around you pick up the pieces if you get hit

Re: [Wikitech-l] Developers: what are you working on? (or Improving the release notes for 1.21)

2013-01-09 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 01/09/2013 08:44 PM, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: Do you have a couple of sentences that would help me and other developers understand this better? Or, if your job was to advertise this, how would you promote it? Tired of all your MediaWiki i18n messages showing on the JavaScript side as

Re: [Wikitech-l] monitoring / control system for bots

2013-01-05 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 01/04/2013 08:21 AM, Matma Rex wrote: You are both assuming that there are no other wikis except for the English Wikipedia. I'm not assuming that. I explicitly said Every wiki has a different approach to bots.. I meant it, and I welcome people providing information about other wikis. For

Re: [Wikitech-l] Generating documentation from JavaScript doc comments

2013-01-04 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 01/04/2013 08:00 AM, Krinkle wrote: Doxygen is indeed not meant for JavaScript. With some hacks it can be tricked into reading comment blocks from javascript files, but that won't scale for our code base, nor will it be enough to make a useful structure given the dynamic way JavaScript

Re: [Wikitech-l] monitoring / control system for bots

2013-01-02 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 01/02/2013 03:03 AM, Bináris wrote: Before generalizing it will be very useful to overview various wikis. According to the interwikis, very few wikis have an explicit bot policy like enwiki and even less have BAG. Definition of a bot may vary, too: in the bot policy of enwiki only

Re: [Wikitech-l] monitoring / control system for bots

2013-01-02 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 01/02/2013 08:25 AM, Lars Aronsson wrote: On 01/02/2013 03:29 AM, Matthew Flaschen wrote: He may have misspoke on the we part. However, for wikis with bot approval processes (e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bot_Approvals_Group ), there is tracking on what bots work on (due

Re: [Wikitech-l] monitoring / control system for bots

2013-01-02 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 01/02/2013 01:24 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: Matt, let's be clearer then: what you describe is ok ONLY for en.wiki. ALL the other wikis have a different system. I was replying to Lars, who made the across-the-board statement once the status is granted, that idea can change without having

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit reviewer-bot

2013-01-02 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/28/2012 07:08 PM, Merlijn van Deen wrote: (responding to Siebrand, although others have made the same p I hope that you're excluding adding people as reviewer to all patch sets by user L10n-bot, by the way... Initially not, but I just added an exception for L10n-bot - all it's changes

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit reviewer-bot

2013-01-02 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 01/02/2013 05:38 PM, Merlijn van Deen wrote: On 2 January 2013 21:34, Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.org wrote: Thank you Could you please also exclude the owner? In other words, don't add the owner as a reviewer to their own change. Great, thank you. Matt Flaschen

Re: [Wikitech-l] Html comments into raw wiki code: can they be wrapped into parsed html?

2013-01-01 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 01/01/2013 01:29 PM, Alex Brollo wrote: As I told, I don't know if HTML5 is in use or not; but try to save a span id=container data-test=This a test data/span into the raw code of any page, then save it, and then use js console of Chrome from the resultin page in view mode with this:

Re: [Wikitech-l] monitoring / control system for bots

2013-01-01 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 01/01/2013 08:38 PM, Lars Aronsson wrote: On 12/27/2012 11:13 AM, Petr Bena wrote: Someone once suggested we create a control panel for bots. I think the first step would be to create a page where we could see overview of all bots we are running on projects. This assumes that we are

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] Big data benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices)

2012-12-31 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/31/2012 09:19 AM, Strainu wrote: Hi Pine, It might be because of the alcohol I've ingested these last days, but - what are you proposing exactly? I think Pine is just proposing people read the text and/or links, and consider what Big Data means for Wikimedia. Matt Flaschen

Re: [Wikitech-l] XOWA: a new, open-source, offline wiki application

2012-12-31 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/31/2012 12:11 PM, Quim Gil wrote: On 12/30/2012 09:08 PM, gnosygnu wrote: Hi everyone. I wrote an open-source, offline wiki application and wanted to announce it here. My apologies if this email is off-topic for this mailing list, but I am hoping XOWA will interest some of you. Thank

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit code review guidelines

2012-12-28 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/28/2012 12:57 PM, Juliusz Gonera wrote: On 12/27/2012 10:31 AM, Matthew Flaschen wrote: * What is the difference between +1 and +2, especially in Verified? I think just how certain you are. I still don't get it. I either think the code is good and should be merged or it's not good

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit reviewer-bot

2012-12-28 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/28/2012 09:12 AM, Merlijn van Deen wrote: Hello all, To add to the great work by Ori and Jon, I have my own recent pet project to announce: Reviewer-bot, which adds reviewers to any new changes uploaded to Gerrit. The basic idea is as follows: 1) reviewer-bot listens to Gerrit's

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit code review guidelines

2012-12-28 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/28/2012 02:09 PM, Brad Jorsch wrote: IMO leave it to Jenkins, if Jenkins is set up for the project. But if you want to use it to indicate that you ran the unit tests yourself and/or extensively tested it manually, feel free I guess as long as it doesn't confuse Jenkins. My understanding

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit code review guidelines

2012-12-28 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/29/2012 01:06 AM, Arthur Richards wrote: Thanks everyone for helping to clarify. The fact that there is still confusion, uncertainty, and 'from my understating's though is disconcerting. Can someone in the know document the actual implications/guidelines/automated behavior/etc for this?

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit code review guidelines

2012-12-27 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/27/2012 01:18 PM, Juliusz Gonera wrote: * What is the difference between Verified and Code Review? When would I put +1 in one of them but -1 in the other? I'm relatively new, but this is my understanding. Verified means you actually tested it. Code Review means it looks good * What is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: MediaWiki Group Bug Squad

2012-12-27 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/27/2012 05:04 PM, Sébastien Santoro wrote: So we're speaking about potential need to incorporation and potential trademark agreements. But this isn't a bureaucratic road. Okay... It specifically says may be incorporated not must be incorporated. MediaWiki groups may allow that kind of

[Wikitech-l] Generating documentation from JavaScript doc comments

2012-12-27 Thread Matthew Flaschen
We have all these JavaScript documentation comments, but we're not actually generating docs. This has been talked about before, e.g. http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/wikitech/208357?do=post_view_threaded, https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40143,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Secure Coding Documentation

2012-12-21 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/21/2012 02:43 PM, Chris Steipp wrote: Sorry for the delay, this link should work! https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/8e5a52bc254a36c4c78b2a999110fb10a2a3f32c I started an Etherpad for notes. http://etherpad.wmflabs.org/pad/p/secure_documentation Matt Flaschen

Re: [Wikitech-l] Follow / like MediaWiki @ social media

2012-12-21 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/21/2012 01:30 PM, Chad wrote: You should also consider making http://app.net/mediawiki . app.net is an ad-free subscription social network, and it's currently very popular with us techies (but broadening its base). Fwiw, I've never even heard of this until now. Yeah, it's still

Re: [Wikitech-l] Follow / like MediaWiki @ social media

2012-12-21 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/21/2012 01:24 PM, Quim Gil wrote: Thank you for the suggestion. Do you (or someone you know) want to maintain that? We can talk. Yes, I'm willing to step up to do that. We would have to decide how to do it. They allow up to 256 characters, along with optional embedded media

Re: [Wikitech-l] Secure Coding Documentation

2012-12-20 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/19/2012 10:11 PM, Chris Steipp wrote: I'll have both a google hangout for video, and an audio line for anyone who prefers to avoid closed technology. If you want to dial in, please let me know so I can get you a phone number in advance. I'd like to join this. Thanks, Matt Flaschen

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deploying to test2 before other wikis

2012-12-20 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/20/2012 04:15 PM, Chris McMahon wrote: Considering that testwiki has a nice documentation page [0] and test2wiki doesn't [1], I think we should probably clear that up before announcing any policy. [0] http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Test.wikipedia.org [1]

Re: [Wikitech-l] How to speed up the review in gerrit?

2012-12-20 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/19/2012 05:57 AM, vita...@yourcmc.ru wrote: Hello! 28 SEPTEMBER I've pushed minor changes to the gerrit, to the Drafts extensions. Since then I've corrected two of them (uploaded patch set 2), but after that, nobody did the review. As I understand, Gerrit will abandon changes after a

Re: [Wikitech-l] jenkins: unit test whitelist

2012-12-20 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/20/2012 07:50 PM, bawolff wrote: Seems kind of odd to only run unit tests for code from experienced people. While everyone benefits from the unit tests, I imagine inexperienced new developers would benefit the most (One assumes people with @wikimedia.org emails ought to be experienced ;)

Re: [Wikitech-l] Follow / like MediaWiki @ social media

2012-12-20 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/19/2012 06:43 PM, Quim Gil wrote: It's not completely sorted out but there has been a big progress in just a couple of days: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Social_media Summary: follow like MediaWiki in your social networks to read promote MediaWiki Wikimedia tech news. *

Re: [Wikitech-l] How to speed up the review in gerrit?

2012-12-19 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/19/2012 02:41 PM, Tyler Romeo wrote: I've had patchsets that I submitted in August and they still haven't been merged. For example, the account creation API, which has actually been approved, but never merged. Which one are you referring to, https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/18127/ ?

Re: [Wikitech-l] How to speed up the review in gerrit?

2012-12-19 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/19/2012 05:06 PM, Tyler Romeo wrote: Yep, that patch. If you notice, patches 8, 16, 18, 20, and 21 have all been approved, i.e., +2 on CR. But it's yet to have been merged. At the very least, its dependency has been merged. I'm not in a humongous rush or anything, I'm just pointing out

Re: [Wikitech-l] How to speed up the review in gerrit?

2012-12-19 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/19/2012 04:58 PM, Matma Rex wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 22:55:24 +0100, Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.org wrote: On a simpler note, why does it have your name as Parent5446? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/dashboard/278 Can someone fix this? There's a bug for that: https

Re: [Wikitech-l] Anonymous user id on wikipedia?

2012-12-18 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/18/2012 06:50 PM, bawolff wrote: On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Kevin Israel pleasest...@live.com wrote: Even if you do not check Remember my login on this browser, the username is saved for 180 days (which, by the way, is four times the duration set out in the WMF privacy policy).

Re: [Wikitech-l] Anonymous user id on wikipedia?

2012-12-18 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/19/2012 12:47 AM, Tyler Romeo wrote: Maybe I'm missing something, but where is the 180 days number coming from. When User::setCookies() sets the cookies, it gives it no expiry, so in reality the cookie persists until the browser removes it. Here

Re: [Wikitech-l] Alpha version of the VisualEditor now available on the English Wikipedia

2012-12-12 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/11/2012 07:30 PM, James Forrester wrote: TL;DR: Today we are launching an alpha, opt-in version of the VisualEditor[0] to the English Wikipedia. This will let editors create and modify real articles visually, using a new system where the articles they edit will look the same as when you

Re: [Wikitech-l] Alpha version of the VisualEditor now available on the English Wikipedia

2012-12-12 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/12/2012 11:08 AM, Roan Kattouw wrote: On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Lee Worden worden@gmail.com wrote: Very exciting - congratulations! I know these are early days for the VisualEditor, but is there a plan for extension developers to be able to hook in to provide editing for the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla: Waiting for merge status when patch is in Gerrit?

2012-12-12 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/12/2012 12:44 PM, Jon Robson wrote: I would love this status. I'd suggest calling it PENDING I could imagine states: PENDING I'd prefer something more specific. I actually think PATCH_IN_GERRIT (the keyword) would work well as a status. Matt Flaschen

Re: [Wikitech-l] Video on mobile: Firefox works, way is paved for more browser support

2012-12-12 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/11/2012 03:02 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: However, every other mobile browser I've tested doesn't support Ogg Theora or WebM formats. Mobile Safari, Chrome, the old stock Android browser, Opera Mobile, and the IE 10 engine in our Windows 8 tablet app will show the thumbnail, but won't play

Re: [Wikitech-l] gerrit support question: how to show raw file content after the commit in the browser, not as zip download

2012-12-12 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/12/2012 03:26 PM, Thomas Gries wrote: I started this thread. I filed this bug https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42989 Gerrit: show link for raw file content in gerrit diff views (a solution is proposed inside) It has been closed as RESOLVED INVALID instead of deploying a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla: Waiting for merge status when patch is in Gerrit?

2012-12-12 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/12/2012 04:15 PM, Sébastien Santoro wrote: Currently there is a patch-in-gerrit keyword in Bugzilla. When a bug report ends up as RESOLVED FIXED there usually had been a codefix in Gerrit that got merged. Hence patch in gerrit could be considered another state on the journey of a bug

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla: Waiting for merge status when patch is in Gerrit?

2012-12-12 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/12/2012 05:09 PM, Krinkle wrote: I agree with Sébastien. ASSIGNED is enough. I don't see the significance of whether there is a Gerrit change yet? If there is no Gerrit change, it doesn't mean nobody is working on it. And if there is a change, it may not be a good one and/or one

Re: [Wikitech-l] slight change to the review workflow in Gerrit

2012-12-07 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/07/2012 04:19 PM, Antoine Musso wrote: Le 07/12/12 04:56, Sébastien Santoro wrote snip This is very disturbing when browsing Gerrit for revisions still to review and doesn't really give any useful information (as the important information here would be the verified -1). Lets open the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcement: Matthew Flaschen joins Wikimedia as Features Engineer

2012-12-07 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/07/2012 05:02 PM, James Forrester wrote: On 7 December 2012 13:06, Terry Chay tc...@wikimedia.org wrote: Please join me in a belated welcome of Matthew Flaschen to the Wikimedia Foundation. :-) Welcome aboard, Matt! Excited to be working alongside you. Thanks! I look forward

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcement: Matthew Flaschen joins Wikimedia as Features Engineer

2012-12-07 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/07/2012 05:19 PM, Maryana Pinchuk wrote: I was really excited when I heard we were interviewing the ProveIt guy, and Matt certainly didn't disappoint :) Thanks! I should also give credit to everyone that's worked on ProveIt, though. Besides me: * Kurt Luther * Terris Jordan * Prof. Amy

Re: [Wikitech-l] Spam filters for wikidata.org

2012-12-06 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/06/2012 05:22 AM, Daniel Kinzler wrote: On 05.12.2012 22:06, Matthew Flaschen wrote: More specifically, what if Wikidata exposed a JSON object representing an external version of each change (essentially a data API). This already exists, that's more or less how changes get pushed

Re: [Wikitech-l] Spam filters for wikidata.org

2012-12-05 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/05/2012 06:34 AM, Daniel Kinzler wrote: I think that makes sense. The spam filters will work best if they are aware of how wikidata works, and have access to the full JSON information of the change. You really want the spam filter extensions to have internal knowledge of Wikibase?

Re: [Wikitech-l] Spam filters for wikidata.org

2012-12-05 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/05/2012 12:28 PM, Chris Steipp wrote: On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 3:34 AM, Daniel Kinzler dan...@brightbyte.de wrote: You really want the spam filter extensions to have internal knowledge of Wikibase? That seems like a nasty cross-dependency, and goes directly against the idea of

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