Re: [Wikitech-l] Where to store OAuth application information?

2015-08-11 Thread Pine W
We currently have editable pages on Wikimedia sites with important legal strings, and AFAIK no one has caused a noteworthy incident by editing or vandalizing them. (Cc'ing Maggie to ask for verification.) However, the term attack vector gets my attention. Is there a way to keep the pages in wiki

Re: [Wikitech-l] Where to store OAuth application information?

2015-08-11 Thread Pine W
10, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: We currently have editable pages on Wikimedia sites with important legal strings, and AFAIK no one has caused a noteworthy incident by editing or vandalizing them. There are several cases that I'm aware of where legally-significant

Re: [Wikitech-l] Where to store OAuth application information?

2015-08-11 Thread Pine W
Ok, it sounds like using a Special:* for OAuth info would be prudent. That's unfortunate for usability reasons, but the security considerations appear to be more important. Pine ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Where to store OAuth application information?

2015-08-11 Thread Pine W
Yeah, the same thought crossed my mind. Unfortunately, superprotect has such a well-earned negative reputation in the community that I don't think it will ever be welcomed even in situations like this where it might be sensible. An alternative might be to devolve the superprotect right to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Where to store OAuth application information?

2015-08-11 Thread Pine W
authorization. For volunteers, the worst that happens is they'll have permissions removed, and even that would be a fight as we have seen with past examples; it's vanishingly unlikely they'd even get blocked, let alone banned. Risker/Anne On 11 August 2015 at 14:17, Pine W wiki.p

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

2015-08-10 Thread Pine W
Just to clarify a few points: I support the concept of having a global friendly spaces policy. I'm ambivalent and reluctant when it comes to the particular proposal that we're discussing here. And I think that we should keep in mind that any policy's usefulness for social change will be much

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

2015-08-10 Thread Pine W
-specific or tech-centric codes of conduct. I'd suggest we avoid fragmenting the discussion and move it there; I'm sure there are elements in those which would provide the clarity you seek. On 10 August 2015 at 12:09, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Just to clarify a few points: I support

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deploying the UrlShortener extension to Wikimedia wikis

2015-08-10 Thread Pine W
Cool, I just got us.wmflabs.org/B to work. This could be quite useful. Thanks! Pine On Aug 10, 2015 12:54 AM, Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, YuviPanda, prtksxna, and myself (with help from Tim and Aaron) have been working the UrlShortener extension, which is designed to

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

2015-08-10 Thread Pine W
I'm putting on my admin and IRC channel op hats, and trying to figure out how this proposal makes those jobs easier or different. I think there are reasonable ideas in this proposal, but the second level escalation path should follow inside of the appropriate local scopes. I'm cautious about

[Wikitech-l] Geohack tools

2015-08-07 Thread Pine W
I just now realized how powerful these tools are when I started clicking around. https://tools.wmflabs.org/geohack/geohack.php?pagename=File%3AWhite-cheeked_Starling_perching_on_a_rock.jpgparams=34.610576_N_135.540542_E_globe:Earth_class:object_language=en Is there any chance of integrating some

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discovery Department running A/B tests for search suggestions

2015-08-07 Thread Pine W
Can we call you Discovery Dan? ;) Thanks for working on improving search results. Pine On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hello! As part of our goal to reduce the zero results rate

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code of conduct

2015-08-06 Thread Pine W
we NEED here in order to get something that works. We need to see it in ACTION and be able to see what works and what doesn't work. James Alexander Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation (415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 5:50 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: WikiConference USA coming in October 2015

2015-08-06 Thread Pine W
(Cross-posting) -- Forwarded message -- Hi Wikimedians, WikiConference USA 2015 will be held *October 9–11* at the U.S. National Archives in Washington, D.C. Registration and scholarship applications are open. Session proposals may be submitted. Website:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code of conduct

2015-08-06 Thread Pine W
Hi Matthew. If you intend this to be binding, I suggest that you coordinate this with other work being done by WMF Community Advocacy and Legal. My hope would be to have a uniform Friendly Space Policy that is a TOS amendment and applies to all Wikimedia spaces. A note on IRC channels: these are

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] Cross-Post: Editing + Reading Meeting Notes

2015-07-27 Thread Pine W
Adam, I'm happy to hear that VE is coming to mobile web. I'd like to know more about what the plans are for user testing of VE on mobile. Would that happen in late Q2 at the earliest, and how much emphasis will there be on user testing mobile VE while it's in beta? My prime interest is in making

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] Cross-Post: Editing + Reading Meeting Notes

2015-07-27 Thread Pine W
, 2015 12:07 PM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org wrote: [Un-duplicate posting. Unless it's an announcement or critically-urgent, please don't ever do that.] On 27 July 2015 at 11:27, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: I'm happy to hear that VE is coming to mobile web. ​It's not coming

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] Cross-Post: Editing + Reading Meeting Notes

2015-07-27 Thread Pine W
27, 2015 at 3:16 PM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 27 July 2015 at 14:44, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: James, Thanks. ​ I have a follow up question regarding project management in general. When the length of time for development and testing are unbounded so

Re: [Wikitech-l] Slides from Lila's presentation at Wikimania

2015-07-19 Thread Pine W
The next mobile device being targeted for uploads support and a native app is the tricorder. Pine On Jul 19, 2015 12:00 PM, Tim Landscheidt t...@tim-landscheidt.de wrote: (anonymous) wrote: There were high level mentions of tech features and UX changes, so I thought that the presentation

Re: [Wikitech-l] Slides from Lila's presentation at Wikimania

2015-07-19 Thread Pine W
There were high level mentions of tech features and UX changes, so I thought that the presentation might interest wikitech members as well. Pine On Jul 19, 2015 2:07 AM, Steinsplitter Wiki steinsplitter-w...@live.com wrote: Nice .pdf ... but why it was necessary to post this to x-lists? Seems

[Wikitech-l] Wikimedia email list spam filtering

2015-07-18 Thread Pine W
Is it possible to set up a universal spam filter that will apply for all Wikimedia email lists? For example, would it be possible to have a master list of blackslisted sender email addresses that all lists will check for blocked senders before putting an email into the moderation queue for

[Wikitech-l] Slides from Lila's presentation at Wikimania

2015-07-18 Thread Pine W
Courtesy of WMF Comms: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimania_2015_presentation_by_Lila_Tretikov.pdf Pine ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Provide a well-performing API to rotate an image

2015-07-16 Thread Pine W
Perhaps this should go to Community Tech or Multimedia. Copying to the Multimedia list. Pine On Jul 16, 2015 6:27 AM, Steinsplitter Wiki steinsplitter-w...@live.com wrote: Hi, I am not sure if this is the correct mailinglist to write. Every week on commons a bot is rotating hunderts of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator tag for bugs in local projects

2015-07-15 Thread Pine W
Perhaps Engineering Community as well? Unlike Community Tech, CE has a manager and therefore perhaps more ability to address this sooner. Any comments, Quim? Thanks! Pine On Jul 15, 2015 10:16 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: I'm encountering a similar problem now -

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator tag for bugs in local projects

2015-07-15 Thread Pine W
Perhaps a solution is to tag as something other than invalid; perhaps downstream dependency? Pine On Jul 15, 2015 9:28 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Hi, In the past it happened to me a few times that I opened bugs about something wrong that happened on a Wikimedia

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please join the Making the Wiki Ed dashboard work for outreach projects hackathon session at Wikimania

2015-07-14 Thread Pine W
/Editor_campaigns [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gather [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Gather [4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:Gather/FAQ On 13/07/15 04:10 PM, Pine W wrote: Hi Elitre, A few questions: What are WMF devs needing in the way of community support

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please join the Making the Wiki Ed dashboard work for outreach projects hackathon session at Wikimania

2015-07-13 Thread Pine W
Hi Elitre, A few questions: What are WMF devs needing in the way of community support? Is there an RfC, or are you asking for volunteer dev time? What are Campaigns? The last I heard is that there was community opposition to Gather, and that it works on mobile only. Has community sentiment

Re: [Wikitech-l] Interwiki navigation via search box appears to be broken

2015-07-09 Thread Pine W
Found problem: javascript was disabled. Sorry for the incovenience. Will follow up on Phabricator about getting interwiki search to work on browsers without javascript. Pine ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

[Wikitech-l] Interwiki navigation via search box appears to be broken

2015-07-09 Thread Pine W
For example, searching for Commons:main on ENWP no longer takes the user to the Commons main page. Fix please. (: Thanks, Pine ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] Article about encrypted communications in NYTimes

2015-07-07 Thread Pine W
FYI: http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/07/08/technology/code-specialists-oppose-us-and-british-government-access-to-encrypted-communication.html Pine ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] [ Writing a MediaWiki extension for deployment ]

2015-07-06 Thread Pine W
at 09:29:50, Pine W (wiki.p...@gmail.com) wrote: I for one would be interested in moving that extension out of beta and having an option in site configuration to require some or all users to have two factor authentication enabled. Pine On Jul 6, 2015 9:20 AM, Alex Monk kren...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [Wikitech-l] [ Writing a MediaWiki extension for deployment ]

2015-07-06 Thread Pine W
I for one would be interested in moving that extension out of beta and having an option in site configuration to require some or all users to have two factor authentication enabled. Pine On Jul 6, 2015 9:20 AM, Alex Monk kren...@gmail.com wrote: We use

[Wikitech-l] Upcoming in October: Seattle GNU/Linux conference

2015-07-02 Thread Pine W
The 2015 Seattle GNU/Linux conference (SeaGL) call for proposals is now open. I've submitted a proposal for a 50-minute workshop regarding how to edit Wikipedia, and may submit more proposals in collaboration with my colleagues in Cascadia Wikimedians. I'm sure that SeaGL would be happy to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Plan for a Developer Relations team

2015-06-29 Thread Pine W
Hi Quim, A scope expansion for your team makes sense to me. I have two questions. 1. Does your team currently have the capacity for this scope expansion, with only existing staff, while continuing to support the existing Community Engineering mission? 2. Will the team continue to have goals

Re: [Wikitech-l] interesting read: what makes great PMs

2015-06-19 Thread Pine W
Thanks for the read. Forwarding. Pine On Jun 19, 2015 7:07 AM, Brian Gerstle bgers...@wikimedia.org wrote: Thought some people would find this stream of tweets from Charlie Kindel [0] http://ceklog.kindel.com/2015/06/18/what-it-means-to-be-great-product-manager/ interesting. I'd also

[Wikitech-l] Search errors on multiple Wikimedia projects

2015-06-15 Thread Pine W
I'm getting this same error on multiple Wikimedia projects: An error has occurred while searching: Search is currently too busy. Please try again later. Help? Pine ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

[Wikitech-l] Selecting a preview slide for a PDF

2015-06-12 Thread Pine W
When creating thumbnails I've been successful at selecting the particular frame of a video to be shown as the thumbnail. Is there a way to do something similar, to show a particular page of a PDF as the thumbnail in an article? Thanks, Pine ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] Selecting a preview slide for a PDF

2015-06-12 Thread Pine W
Aha, I found that using | instead of does the trick. Sorry for the interruption. Pine On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:56 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: When creating thumbnails I've been successful at selecting the particular frame of a video to be shown as the thumbnail. Is there a way

Re: [Wikitech-l] [editing-department] Read the VisualEditor process review

2015-06-09 Thread Pine W
Just to make sure that this has been said: thank you VE team, we appreciate your work that will benefit Wikipedia for years to come. Pine ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] [reading-wmf] Fwd: Mobile Firendly

2015-05-29 Thread Pine W
Hmm. Why would we block robots there? Pine On May 29, 2015 1:55 PM, Jon Katz jk...@wikimedia.org wrote: +external mobile and wikitech Shoot. I meant to send this the external list. For those of you just joining us, we recently got an email from google letting us know that some of our

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki, as seen on TV

2015-05-25 Thread Pine W
{{cn}} ;) Pine On May 25, 2015 7:26 AM, Ricordisamoa ricordisa...@openmailbox.org wrote: It's a well-known fact that MediaWiki can blow up printers. Il 24/05/2015 22:06, Steven Walling ha scritto: There's a pretty hilarious American police procedural TV show in 2015 called CSI: Cyber,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcome Frances Hocutt

2015-05-25 Thread Pine W
Congrats (: We liked your presentation at the Community Data Science Workshop, and it's great to see you join Community Tech. Pine On May 25, 2015 12:39 PM, Bryan Davis bd...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'm excited to announce that Frances Hocutt has been hired as a Software Engineer on the Community

[Wikitech-l] Page weight

2015-05-23 Thread Pine W
Hoping that this gets to the right people in Engineering: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Page_Weight_Matters Pine ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Community project ideas

2015-05-20 Thread Pine W
Hi, yes, my comments had a broader scope than the original purpose of the thread. I'm not planning to discuss that further here. Pine On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote: Le 20/05/2015 00:20, Pine W a écrit : Hmm, I'm not sure that I'd agree

Re: [Wikitech-l] Community project ideas

2015-05-19 Thread Pine W
Perhaps we could ask Damon for clarification about the team's scope of work, although my hunch is that this is still being discussed internally. I'm boldly pinging him (: Pine On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/19/15, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [Wikitech-l] Community project ideas

2015-05-19 Thread Pine W
MZ, I think we should be grateful that WMF is dedicating resources to power users, make suggestions to them on what we most want them to work on, and leave it at that. I'm willing to be critical of WMF when I feel that the situation calls for it. That's not the case here. Pine On Tue, May 19,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Community project ideas

2015-05-19 Thread Pine W
Hmm, I'm not sure that I'd agree that everything that WMF does has a community aspect. There's been a lot of discussion about readership that to me seems primarily concerned with fundraising and only secondly concerned with recruiting new contributors and otherwise serving the community. (I'm not

Re: [Wikitech-l] Community project ideas

2015-05-19 Thread Pine W
Hi MZMcBride, I believe that this team is still early in its development. Lila's stated intention for it is that the team will cater to the needs and wishes of power users and administrators. There is quite a backlog of projects that this team could tackle. For example, I am frequently hearing

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wmfall] Welcome Darian Patrick

2015-05-19 Thread Pine W
Hi Darian, Welcome to Wikimedia. I'd like to invite you to subscribe to the Cascadia Wikimedians email list; we're the regional affiliate for Oregon, Washington State, and British Columbia. Signup is at https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-cascadia I'm cc'ing my colleague

Re: [Wikitech-l] Per-user search query limiting being deployed to wmf wikis

2015-05-18 Thread Pine W
While I understand the intent of conserving search resource use, will this change have adverse effects in situations like professors instructing their 200-student classes to search for a particular topic and its related articles on Wikipedia? Pine On May 18, 2015 12:35 PM, Erik Bernhardson

Re: [Wikitech-l] Per-user search query limiting being deployed to wmf wikis

2015-05-18 Thread Pine W
I think the use of tools to prevent high volume *automated* internal searches might be more appropriate, if good tools for that purpose are available. Pine ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

[Wikitech-l] Multimedia team?

2015-05-09 Thread Pine W
As a part of the engineering reorganization, will there be a multimedia team within the readeship or power users groups? For some time I have been hoping to get Wikipedia the ability to provide interactive visualizations. Also, this article[1] suggests that VR may see widespread adoption in the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikitech-l Digest, Vol 142, Issue 9

2015-05-09 Thread Pine W
I've never seen that before. Pinging Wikitech list admin AKlapper. Pine On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:00 AM, Mr. Donald J. Fortier II technical...@yahoo.com wrote: Why are empty digests being mailed and how do I make it so I only get one a day and only if not empty? Sent from Yahoo Mail on

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Social-media] Improving the security of our users on Wikimedia sites

2015-04-20 Thread Pine W
Thanks for your work on this, Chris. Forwarding to Wikitech-l. Pine On Apr 20, 2015 4:58 PM, Chris Steipp cste...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Apr 20, 2015 4:13 PM, Andrew Sherman asher...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hello Everyone, We just published Improving the security of our users on

Re: [Wikitech-l] VisualEditor support for table copy-and-paste from Word

2015-04-16 Thread Pine W
Regarding blog posting, I agree it's a good idea. Might want to wait on advertising the CSV import until it works for all users, which sounds like it will be April 29. In the meantime though, there could be a series of blog posts about other good aspects of VE. I suggest heavily emphasizing the

Re: [Wikitech-l] VisualEditor support for table copy-and-paste from Word

2015-04-15 Thread Pine W
. Moore‬ 2015-04-15 11:05 GMT+03:00 Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com javascript:;: James, I just want to say a public thank you for VE saving my sanity by doing something that I didn't know was possible. I was able to copy a table from Word onto Meta using VisualEditor, and much to my

Re: [Wikitech-l] VisualEditor support for table copy-and-paste from Word

2015-04-15 Thread Pine W
2015 at 14:55, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Trevor, I tried a CSV copy and paste as you suggested, but that doesn't work for me. Ah, no, ​CSV and TSV support is for drag-and-drop, not copy-and-paste (which is plain text content): https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki

[Wikitech-l] VisualEditor support for table copy-and-paste from Word

2015-04-15 Thread Pine W
James, I just want to say a public thank you for VE saving my sanity by doing something that I didn't know was possible. I was able to copy a table from Word onto Meta using VisualEditor, and much to my surprise it mostly worked. I must have tried at least five other ways to get one of Cascadia

[Wikitech-l] Another reason to consider forcing https

2015-04-11 Thread Pine W
https://citizenlab.org/2015/04/chinas-great-cannon/ Pine ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Lists as first class citizens

2015-04-03 Thread Pine W
Hi Jon, You might want to discuss this project here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Council You could also discuss this with the WikiProject X team: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_X Pine *This is an Encyclopedia* https://www.wikipedia.org/

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2015-03

2015-04-01 Thread Pine W
Hi Quim and team practices folks, Do you have any suggestions about how to shorten the average time for bug fixes shown here? In particular, it seems to me that unbreak now bugs should be fixed in something like 10 days max. If something is seriously broken, 48 days is long time to wait for a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Lua module for simple molar mass calculations

2015-03-31 Thread Pine W
Pinging Jmorgan who I believe knows Lua. (: Pine On Mar 31, 2015 2:27 PM, Brenton Horne brentonhorn...@gmail.com wrote: I have just tried solving this problem myself, using the /Module:Molar mass calculator/: -- Setting up p and args local p= {}; local args M= mw.loadData(

Re: [Wikitech-l] Org changes in WMF's Platform Engineering group

2015-03-24 Thread Pine W
Thanks for the updates. Speaking of multimedia, what is the likelihood of Wikipedia's capabilities supporting interactive content like Listen to Wikipedia in the near future? I can think of many articles in which reader engagement would benefit from interactive content. Thanks, Pine

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC 2015 participation

2015-03-22 Thread Pine W
Hi Vicky, I have been pining for the newsletter extension for ages. Would you work on that, please? This is my personal request, and as far as I know there is no official list of priorities. I can just say that I for one feel that the newsletter extension would be very valuable, and would be a

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: Re: GSoC 2015 participation

2015-03-22 Thread Pine W
Pinging Quim to ask about a likely mentor. Pine -- Forwarded message -- From: Vicky vi...@altermundi.net Date: Mar 22, 2015 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC 2015 participation To: Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com Cc: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org On Sunday

Re: [Wikitech-l] Maps

2015-03-19 Thread Pine W
Heh, I'm not sure if I should laugh or groan. IIRC, Erik, Yuvi and others are prioritizing Labs reliability improvements for the next FY. I hope so. Pine On Mar 18, 2015 11:03 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi What is meant by real hardware ? Can we have some at Labs

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wmfall] VisualEditor on Wikipedia now faster with RESTBase

2015-03-19 Thread Pine W
Excellent. Just as a reminder: English-language video training for VisualEditor is in the queue for publication by mid-April, led by yours truly and with the assistance of a few collaborators. (: Pine On Mar 19, 2015 4:51 PM, Jared Zimmerman jared.zimmer...@wikimedia.org wrote:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Maps

2015-03-18 Thread Pine W
Glad to hear of this idea. We've discussed potential collaborations with OSM in Cascadia Wikimedians meetings. Pine On Mar 18, 2015 2:08 AM, Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, just a quick note: as part of general search and discovery work, me and Yuri are resurrecting the project to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Starting conversion of LiquidThreads to Flow at mediawiki.org

2015-03-17 Thread Pine W
Pardon me if I missed an announcement, but will there be any office hours about Flow in the near future? I have a few general questions about cross-wiki discussions and the relationship of Flow to VE. (I'm mostly focused on VE right now.) Thanks, Pine On Mar 16, 2015 11:21 PM, Kevin Wayne

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] SUL finalization update (no, for real this time)

2015-03-13 Thread Pine W
Excellent, thank you Keegan and all who have worked on this. Pine On Mar 13, 2015 1:07 PM, Keegan Peterzell kpeterz...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi all, Single-user login[1] finalization will be taking place next month.[2] I know this has been said before over the past two years, but it is

Re: [Wikitech-l] 503 errors in Phabricator

2015-03-06 Thread Pine W
I figured it out: this error happens whenever I use advanced search with my browser cookies disabled. This appears to be a bug in Phabricator. Pine On Mar 6, 2015 3:20 AM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Yes I'm still

[Wikitech-l] 503 errors in Phabricator

2015-03-06 Thread Pine W
I'm repeatedly getting 503 errors when attemping to search Phabricator. Can someone check into this please? Pine ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] 503 errors in Phabricator

2015-03-06 Thread Pine W
reproduce the problem, but I am surely no expert. Is it still ongoing? Which urls in particular is giving you 503s? Cheers Giuseppe On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: I'm repeatedly getting 503 errors when attemping to search Phabricator. Can someone check

Re: [Wikitech-l] Transfering domain cswp.cz to WMF

2015-02-22 Thread Pine W
Hi Petr, I believe that WMF Legal handles matters such as this one. I am including them in this email reply. Thank you, Pine On Feb 22, 2015 7:20 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Long time ago I purchased domain cswp.cz in order to use it in same way as enwp.org for czech

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] Types of allowed projects for grant funding (renamed)

2015-02-22 Thread Pine W
Hi Luis, Thank you for agreeing to consider grant funding for software projects. It sounds like you also plan a broader review of funding for community needs and growth. I have a list of requests for changes, which boil down to removing policy barriers and greatly improving communications and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Types of allowed projects for grant funding (renamed)

2015-02-21 Thread Pine W
to rethink the categorical prohibitions and replace at least some of them with appropriate expectations for impact that would better serve our overall mission of creating and sharing knowledge. Pine On Feb 21, 2015 12:05 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/21/15, Pine W wiki.p

Re: [Wikitech-l] post project funding

2015-02-20 Thread Pine W
, 2015 at 7:48 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: That depends on what kind of project you have in mind, and I'm not sure what you mean by post-project funding. If you are thinking about continuing or expanding an existing program that has proven useful then there may be funding

Re: [Wikitech-l] Global user pages deployed to all wikis

2015-02-20 Thread Pine W
Is it necessary to request deletion of a local user page in order to get the global page to be automatically transcluded? Pine *This is an Encyclopedia* https://www.wikipedia.org/ *One gateway to the wide garden of knowledge, where lies The deep rock of our past, in which we must delve The

Re: [Wikitech-l] post project funding

2015-02-20 Thread Pine W
That depends on what kind of project you have in mind, and I'm not sure what you mean by post-project funding. If you are thinking about continuing or expanding an existing program that has proven useful then there may be funding available. Try https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Start to get

Re: [Wikitech-l] If you hear about 'hackathon buddies'...

2015-02-19 Thread Pine W
Thanks. Forwarding to Ellie for her consideration. Pine On Feb 19, 2015 11:41 AM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any limit for a number of buddies? Let's not overcomplicate things. I suppose that one WMF

Re: [Wikitech-l] If you hear about 'hackathon buddies'...

2015-02-19 Thread Pine W
This is a great idea, Quim. Will the same concept apply to the Wikimedia Conference in Germany? Pine On Feb 19, 2015 6:57 AM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: Yesterday we opened the travel request process for Wikimedia Foundation employees in Engineering and Product willing to participate

Re: [Wikitech-l] Global user pages deployed to all wikis

2015-02-18 Thread Pine W
Thanks for the very good news. Dan, can we get an ETA about SUL finalization? Pine On Feb 18, 2015 5:07 PM, Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! Global user pages have now been deployed to all public wikis for users with CentralAuth accounts. Documentation on the feature is

Re: [Wikitech-l] What architectural fissures do we want in MediaWiki?

2015-02-16 Thread Pine W
This set of proposals as written sound reasonable. (: Pine On Feb 15, 2015 6:47 PM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi everyone, There has been a lot of talk over the past year or so about SOA and what it means for MediaWiki. What I've taken from the conversation is the following:

Re: [Wikitech-l] New feature: tool edit

2015-02-13 Thread Pine W
be the letter for it then? s? t? a? On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 8:31 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: I think bot edits are most closely aligned with fully automated editing. Perhaps semi-automated edit would work. Pine On Feb 12, 2015 10:34 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote

Re: [Wikitech-l] New feature: tool edit

2015-02-12 Thread Pine W
I think bot edits are most closely aligned with fully automated editing. Perhaps semi-automated edit would work. Pine On Feb 12, 2015 10:34 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: On 15-02-12 01:13 AM, Pine W wrote: What would it take to implement a new tool edit flag userright

Re: [Wikitech-l] Who moved my cheese?

2015-02-12 Thread Pine W
There is the https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-announce email list which perhaps could be used for emailing the weekly tech newsletters and major changes. Pine On Feb 12, 2015 7:25 AM, C. Scott Ananian canan...@wikimedia.org wrote: In addition to (even better than?) a

Re: [Wikitech-l] New feature: tool edit

2015-02-11 Thread Pine W
I'm still thinking about this. A designated tool flag that (1) is assigned to trusted users as a userright like autopatrol and (2) could be used for multi-edit rollbacks as well as other semiautomated edits, could be quite useful for both watchlist screening and recent changes screening. The flag

Re: [Wikitech-l] New feature: tool edit

2015-02-11 Thread Pine W
Definitely worth discussing. For ENWP, I suggest bringing this up on VP:T. Thanks, Pine On Feb 11, 2015 12:45 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I think I proposed this once but I forgot the outcome. I would like to implement a new feature called tool edit it would be pretty much

Re: [Wikitech-l] New feature: tool edit

2015-02-11 Thread Pine W
Maarten's thinking works well with my train of thought also. What would it take to implement a new tool edit flag userright, associated filters for recent changes and watchlists, and automatic applications of the flag to uses of rollback, AWB, etc when the user of those tools has the right to the

Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

2015-02-07 Thread Pine W
Pinging WMF Legal to request their comments. Pine On Feb 7, 2015 5:19 PM, Thomas Mulhall thomasmulhall...@yahoo.com wrote: I think we should upgrade to GPL 3 because it I more modern only released sometime in 2007 where as GPL 2 was released in 1991 when the internet started to begin. The

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tweet of site outage

2015-02-05 Thread Pine W
Interesting. I thought that WMF had full redundancy among at least two physical sites for tech infrastructure, in case any location went completely offline, such as if there is a fire or flood. Is this not the case, and if so, is full redundancy capability planned? Pine *This is an Encyclopedia*

[Wikitech-l] Naming conventions for data centers

2015-02-05 Thread Pine W
What is the naming convention for these data centers? I think it might be interesting to name them for people who have contributed significantly to Wikimedia or MediaWiki in one way or another, such as Pacha ( https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/05/12/the-story-of-jim-pacha/), Wadewitz (

Re: [Wikitech-l] Naming conventions for data centers

2015-02-05 Thread Pine W
, Feb 5, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/05/2015 04:51 PM, Pine W wrote: What is the naming convention for these data centers? https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Infrastructure_naming_conventions#Datacenter_Sites -- Legoktm

Re: [Wikitech-l] All Hands On Deck!

2015-02-05 Thread Pine W
Hi Littlewmfbird, Come perch on my branches, says this tree, And tell me more about what thinketh thee. Come, let us evaluate together About how Wikimedia might do better. Little bird, as you perch on my branches, Tell me this. As you survey the broad blue sky, I ask, Think aloud, daydream with

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tweet of site outage

2015-02-05 Thread Pine W
, in which truth may grow in bright places, tended by many hands,And the broad fall of sunshine, warming our first steps toward knowing how much we do not know.* *—Catherine Munro* On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Greg Grossmeier g...@wikimedia.org wrote: quote name=Pine W date=2015-02-05 time=16

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Phabricator monthly statistics - 2015-01

2015-02-02 Thread Pine W
It would be interesting to compare our trends to those of other open source projects with open bug or task trackers. Pine On Feb 1, 2015 7:47 PM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 1 February 2015 at 14:16, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Quim, Thanks. Just wondering

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Phabricator monthly statistics - 2015-01

2015-02-01 Thread Pine W
Hi Quim, Thanks. Just wondering, do we have a graph somewhere that shows trends? There is quite a gap between tasks created and tasks closed, and if that's normal each month then there needs to be some thought about how to fix the gap, yes? Thanks, Pine On Feb 1, 2015 11:49 AM, Quim Gil

Re: [Wikitech-l] Feature request.

2014-11-17 Thread Pine W
I think it would be ok to have a second Save page prompt that offers to save the page in a user's userspace. The save location could be something like User:Jimbo\editconflicts\pagename Auto-deletion of the edit conflict save would not be necessary. I also like Zack's suggestion. I think that

Re: [Wikitech-l] Feature request.

2014-11-16 Thread Pine W
I have just lost *two hours* of work due to an edit conflict. I thought using my browser's back button would fix it, but the text is gone forever. Argh. Pine *This is an Encyclopedia* https://www.wikipedia.org/ *One gateway to the wide garden of knowledge, where lies The deep rock of our

Re: [Wikitech-l] Feature request.

2014-11-16 Thread Pine W
page? A bit unintuitive, but should be there. On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, at 09:07, Pine W wrote: I have just lost *two hours* of work due to an edit conflict. I thought using my browser's back button would fix it, but the text is gone forever. Argh

Re: [Wikitech-l] Feature request.

2014-11-16 Thread Pine W
is aware. Maybe we could allow saving things to a given subpage of their user page though. I wonder if there would be issues with this idea due to missing history/attribution/etc On 16 November 2014 22:41, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 November 2014 22:36, Pine W wiki.p

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