Re: [Wikitech-l] Who is responsible for accepting backported patch sets for maintained versions?

2013-02-21 Thread Siebrand Mazeland (WMF)
Hi Greg. Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately the references to Robla's e-mail clarify nothing: It only addresses things outside of the scope of my original questions, since, interpreting the text literally, you will only be responsible for code that is to be deployed on Wikimedia websites, which

[Wikitech-l] EasyRDF dependency

2013-02-21 Thread Denny Vrandečić
After evaluating different options, we want to use for generating Wikidata's RDF export the EasyRDF library: http://www.easyrdf.org/ We only need a part of it -- whatever deals with serializers. We do not need parsers, anything to do with SPARQL, etc. In order to minimize reviewing and potential

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corrupt pages on English Wikipedia

2013-02-21 Thread Andre Klapper
On Wed, 2013-02-20 at 08:59 -0500, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: Brian, would you take a look at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_report_a_bug and maybe update it to clarify what sorts of information to try to hold on to for debugging purposes? I'd like to keep How_to_report_a_bug a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Who is responsible for accepting backported patch sets for maintained versions?

2013-02-21 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
On 02/21/2013 04:13 AM, Siebrand Mazeland (WMF) wrote: B. Who is MediaWiki's release manager, and what can we expect of the person who has that role? I had a conversation with Maria Miteva (Robla at least got copies of these emails) last week when she asked if I was planning on doing the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Who is responsible for accepting backported patch sets for maintained versions?

2013-02-21 Thread bawolff
* Work to get bugfixes backported to 1.19. I don't have Gerrit rights to commit to the REL1_19 branch, but that will keep me from fixing bugs by fiat. I think we should give you such rights. --bawolff ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

[Wikitech-l] Nominating Mark Hershberger as core maintainer

2013-02-21 Thread Siebrand Mazeland (WMF)
I've nominated Mark Hershberger as MediaWiki core maintainer in Gerrit. Please provide your feedback at the following URL: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership#hexmode_.2F_Mark_Hershberger_for_MediaWiki_core Cheers! -- Siebrand Mazeland Product Manager Language

Re: [Wikitech-l] Who is responsible for accepting backported patch sets for maintained versions?

2013-02-21 Thread Siebrand Mazeland (WMF)
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.orgwrote: On 02/21/2013 04:13 AM, Siebrand Mazeland (WMF) wrote: B. Who is MediaWiki's release manager, and what can we expect of the person who has that role? I had a conversation with Maria Miteva (Robla at least got

Re: [Wikitech-l] Who is responsible for accepting backported patch sets for maintained versions?

2013-02-21 Thread David Gerard
On 21 February 2013 16:02, Siebrand Mazeland (WMF) smazel...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.orgwrote: * Champion features that non-WMF users want. This includes things like searching inside a category and a WYSIWYG editor. As a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Who is responsible for accepting backported patch sets for maintained versions?

2013-02-21 Thread Quim Gil
On 02/21/2013 07:19 AM, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: Is there something else the MW release manager should be doing? Let me know. Is there anyone in the WMF who disagrees with this assessment? Now is the time to speak up. Ok, just a question as humble 3rd party MediaWiki user and technical

Re: [Wikitech-l] Who is responsible for accepting backported patch sets for maintained versions?

2013-02-21 Thread Brad Jorsch
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: Ok, just a question as humble 3rd party MediaWiki user and technical volunteer coordinator at the WMF: is there a possibility to consider having a regular free software release process? master/unstable --- (testing

[Wikitech-l] Do we need to change the MW release process to better involve the non-WMF community?

2013-02-21 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
(Adding a couple of mailing lists so others can weigh in. Changing subject so those added aren't completely lost.) On 02/21/2013 11:55 AM, Quim Gil wrote: Ok, just a question as humble 3rd party MediaWiki user and technical volunteer coordinator at the WMF: is there a possibility to consider

Re: [Wikitech-l] Do we need to change the MW release process to better involve the non-WMF community?

2013-02-21 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-02-21 1:40 PM, Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org wrote: (Adding a couple of mailing lists so others can weigh in. Changing subject so those added aren't completely lost.) On 02/21/2013 11:55 AM, Quim Gil wrote: Ok, just a question as humble 3rd party MediaWiki user and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Do we need to change the MW release process to better involve the non-WMF community?

2013-02-21 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
On 02/21/2013 12:50 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: Thus the use of unstablish releases on wikimedia allows for much more stable core releases. Thanks for pointing this out. I meant to say this, too. I guess the question I want other MediaWiki users to answer is: Are there any concerns that mitigate

Re: [Wikitech-l] Do we need to change the MW release process to better involve the non-WMF community?

2013-02-21 Thread OQ
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org wrote: But right now, I don't sense a huge amount of friction between the WMF's needs and the non-WMF MediaWiki-using community. The most that can be said is that the WMF is focused on its sites and doesn't make third

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wmfall] Luis Villa joins WMF as Deputy General Counsel

2013-02-21 Thread Platonides
El 20/02/13 00:49, Luis Villa escribió: Hah... I think calling me a developer is, at this point, a bit of a stretch, but I look forward to working with the tech team :) ¡Welcome, Luis! ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] EasyRDF dependency

2013-02-21 Thread Platonides
On 21/02/13 10:18, Denny Vrandečić wrote: After evaluating different options, we want to use for generating Wikidata's RDF export the EasyRDF library: http://www.easyrdf.org/ We only need a part of it -- whatever deals with serializers. We do not need parsers, anything to do with SPARQL,

[Wikitech-l] NEW version Extension:RSS 2.18 released

2013-02-21 Thread Thomas Gries
Manual https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RSS Code tree https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/extensions/RSS.git;a=tree Release Notes https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/extensions/RSS.git;a=blob_plain;f=RELEASE-NOTES;hb=HEAD This is the submission to git after

Re: [Wikitech-l] Who is responsible for accepting backported patch sets for maintained versions?

2013-02-21 Thread Rob Lanphier
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org wrote: On 02/21/2013 04:13 AM, Siebrand Mazeland (WMF) wrote: B. Who is MediaWiki's release manager, and what can we expect of the person who has that role? [..] Absent an explicit statement from anyone inside Foundation,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Do we need to change the MW release process to better involve the non-WMF community?

2013-02-21 Thread Tyler Romeo
I'd like to see MediaWiki gain a more stable release process as well. I think some of the primary things that we're lacking are: - Where is QA? I mean, I know somewhere somebody is probably doing some sort of testing, but having worked as a QA engineer I haven't seen anything in MW that

Re: [Wikitech-l] Who is responsible for accepting backported patch sets for maintained versions?

2013-02-21 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
On 02/21/2013 04:26 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote: This all make sense? Yes, I appreciate you weighing in. -- http://hexmode.com/ There is no path to peace. Peace is the path. -- Mahatma Gandhi, Non-Violence in Peace and War ___ Wikitech-l mailing

[Wikitech-l] Installing Mediawiki SourceCode

2013-02-21 Thread anubhav agarwal
Hi Guys, I am a newbie to mediawiki, I was following the instructions on this page http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download_from_Git After cloning the gir repository on my desktop, there is no .git folder in it. Henceforth any of the following commands on that page like git branch -r | sort -V

Re: [Wikitech-l] Installing Mediawiki SourceCode

2013-02-21 Thread Ori Livneh
On Thursday, February 21, 2013 at 2:14 PM, anubhav agarwal wrote: Hi Guys, I am a newbie to mediawiki, I was following the instructions on this page http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download_from_Git After cloning the gir repository on my desktop, there is no .git folder in it.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Who is responsible for accepting backported patch sets for maintained versions?

2013-02-21 Thread Krinkle
On Feb 21, 2013, at 4:51 PM, bawolff bawolff...@gmail.com wrote: * Work to get bugfixes backported to 1.19. I don't have Gerrit rights to commit to the REL1_19 branch, but that will keep me from fixing bugs by fiat. I think we should give you such rights. --bawolff Though it is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Installing Mediawiki SourceCode

2013-02-21 Thread anubhav agarwal
Really Sorry, I didn't notice they were there. On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 3:50 AM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Thursday, February 21, 2013 at 2:14 PM, anubhav agarwal wrote: Hi Guys, I am a newbie to mediawiki, I was following the instructions on this page

Re: [Wikitech-l] Installing Mediawiki SourceCode

2013-02-21 Thread Tyler Romeo
I have an alternative question. Why is there -b in the options? Git should automatically create local branches when checking out a remote branch, i.e., doing git checkout REL1_20 should automatically create a branch with that name based on origin/REL1_20. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of

[Wikitech-l] Subclassing HTMLForm Question

2013-02-21 Thread Tyler Romeo
Hey, So there's a change (https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48995) that's adding a new subclass to HTMLForm, so I had a quick question for whoever has more experience with HTMLForm than I do. The new subclass will always output a table for the getInputHTML(), even if the parent form is set to

[Wikitech-l] Categories in Module namespace

2013-02-21 Thread Bináris
May Lua scripts be categorized? -- Bináris ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Subclassing HTMLForm Question

2013-02-21 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, The new subclass will always output a table for the getInputHTML(), even if the parent form is set to div/raw output. That very much sounds like a violation of the Liskov substitution pattern. In other words, it sounds like code using an instance of HTMLForm might run into problems when

[Wikitech-l] Sending 200s for empty user pages of valid users

2013-02-21 Thread Ryan Lane
See: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45255 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/50305/ Just in case this is controversial, I thought I'd bring this topic up on the list. We currently send 404s for empty user pages, even for valid users. It would be ideal to use user page urls as

Re: [Wikitech-l] Installing Mediawiki SourceCode

2013-02-21 Thread Ori Livneh
On Thursday, February 21, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Tyler Romeo wrote: I have an alternative question. Why is there -b in the options? Git should automatically create local branches when checking out a remote branch, i.e., doing git checkout REL1_20 should automatically create a branch with that

Re: [Wikitech-l] Categories in Module namespace

2013-02-21 Thread Ori Livneh
On Thursday, February 21, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Bináris wrote: May Lua scripts be categorized? Scribunto modules may export multiple functions. IMHO, it makes more sense to group conceptually-related functions by bundling them into single modules, much like the standard libraries of most

Re: [Wikitech-l] Sending 200s for empty user pages of valid users

2013-02-21 Thread Brion Vibber
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: See: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45255 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/50305/ Just in case this is controversial, I thought I'd bring this topic up on the list. We currently send 404s for empty

Re: [Wikitech-l] Categories in Module namespace

2013-02-21 Thread Tim Starling
On 22/02/13 09:39, Bináris wrote: May Lua scripts be categorized? After https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/50143/ is deployed, it will be possible to add a module to a category by adding a category tag to its /doc subpage. -- Tim Starling ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] Do we need to change the MW release process to better involve the non-WMF community?

2013-02-21 Thread Chris McMahon
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to see MediaWiki gain a more stable release process as well. I think some of the primary things that we're lacking are: - Where is QA? I mean, I know somewhere somebody is probably doing some sort of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Installing Mediawiki SourceCode

2013-02-21 Thread Tyler Romeo
Aha, OK thanks. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Thursday, February 21, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Tyler Romeo wrote: I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikitech-l Digest, Vol 115, Issue 93

2013-02-21 Thread Kancer Ezeroğlu
Hi everybody, I want to help about wikimedia's bugs. How can I get wikimedia's bugs ? Can somebody please help me ? ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikitech-l Digest, Vol 115, Issue 93

2013-02-21 Thread Ryan Lane
Our bugs are at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org. Was there anything specific you'd like to help with? On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Kancer Ezeroğlu ezeroglukan...@gmail.comwrote: Hi everybody, I want to help about wikimedia's bugs. How can I get wikimedia's bugs ? Can somebody please help

[Wikitech-l] How to help with bugs (was Re: Wikitech-l Digest, Vol 115, Issue 93)

2013-02-21 Thread Quim Gil
On 02/21/2013 04:29 PM, Kancer Ezeroğlu wrote: Hi everybody, Hello, welcome! I want to help about wikimedia's bugs. How can I get wikimedia's bugs ? Can somebody please help me ? Are you interested in helping triaging bugs or fixing them? Any specific product or feature? Check these

Re: [Wikitech-l] wfMsg and wfMsgForContent are deprecated. What to use?

2013-02-21 Thread Niklas Laxström
On 19 February 2013 19:10, Krenair kren...@gmail.com wrote: See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Messages_API#Deprecated_wfMsg.2A_functions The whole page is a recommended reading. I refactored it about a week ago to make it more accessible. Thank you to everyone who has already provided

Re: [Wikitech-l] Categories in Module namespace

2013-02-21 Thread Bináris
2013/2/22 Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org After https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/50143/ is deployed, it will be possible to add a module to a category by adding a category tag to its /doc subpage. Thank you! I suppose it will be announced here. Ori: your concept is good and I will