Re: [Wikitech-l] Fantastic MediaWikis - Track at Wikimedia Hackathon - CfP

2017-04-05 Thread Markus Glaser
i.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Stakeholders%27_Group/Fantastic_MediaWikis_CfP#How_to_submit All the best, Markus (User:Mglaser) MediaWiki Stakeholders' Group -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Wikitech-l [mailto:wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Markus Glaser Gesendet: Montag, 20. März

Re: [Wikitech-l] Introducing the MediaWiki Platform Team!

2017-04-03 Thread Markus Glaser
It's so great to see this happen! The formation of the platform team clearly adds emphasis to the fact that MediaWiki is not only underlying Wikipedia and its sister projects, but is also widely used by thousands of sites on the internet and therefore a product of the Foundation in itself.

[Wikitech-l] Fantastic MediaWikis - Track at Wikimedia Hackathon - CfP

2017-03-20 Thread Markus Glaser
Hello everyone, "Fantastic MediaWikis and How to Maintain Them" is a one-day conference track designed for people who work with the open source software MediaWiki in their organisation, company or business [1]. The conference track is curated by the MediaWiki Stakeholders Group and hosted by

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit 2.12.2 test instance - PLEASE TEST

2016-07-15 Thread Markus Glaser
This update will definitely improve our experience with git. As others have said before, the inline editing will greatly speed up the review process and improve code quality. This is especially true for the extensions, as you now do not have to clone a repo or reject the commit just to fix a

Re: [Wikitech-l] The future of shared hosting

2015-01-20 Thread Markus Glaser
Hello everyone, On 19/01/15 06:47, Tim Starling wrote: As long as there are no actual reasons for dropping pure-PHP core functionality, the idea of WMF versus shared hosting is a false dichotomy. I kind of agree. Instead of seeing things in black and white, aka shared hosting or not, we

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Security and Maintenance Releases: 1.24.1, 1.23.8, 1.22.15 and 1.19.23

2014-12-17 Thread Markus Glaser
/1.19/mediawiki-1.19.23.tar.gz.sig https://releases.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.19/mediawiki-1.19.23.patch.gz.sig Markus Glaser (Wiki Release Team) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 1.24.0 released

2014-11-26 Thread Markus Glaser
://www.mediawiki.org/keys/keys.html Mark Hershberger and Markus Glaser (Wiki Release Team) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Security and Maintenance Releases: 1.23.7, 1.22.14 and 1.19.22

2014-11-26 Thread Markus Glaser
/mediawiki-1.19.22.tar.gz.sig https://releases.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.19/mediawiki-1.19.22.patch.gz.sig Mark Hershberger and Markus Glaser (Wiki Release Team) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman

[Wikitech-l] End of lifetime announcement for MediaWiki 1.22

2014-11-26 Thread Markus Glaser
) or 1.23.7 (legacy and LTS version). MediaWiki 1.19 LTS will continue to be supported until May, 2015. Best, Mark Hershberger and Markus Glaser (Wiki Release Team) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman

[Wikitech-l] Open issues for next MediaWiki maintenance releases

2014-10-23 Thread Markus Glaser
Hello everyone, next week on October, 29th, there will be another set of security and maintenance releases for MediaWiki. There are still some unresolved bugs and changes that are wating to be +2'ed. So if you feel like improving MediaWiki tarball releases in the upcoming days, you could have

Re: [Wikitech-l] Invitation to this Friday's MediaWiki Cooperation G+ hangout

2014-10-17 Thread Markus Glaser
Hi Željko, hi all, we are still meeting, in roughly 2.5 hours from now. Here's the current link: https://plus.google.com/events/cf7ajegl3357ukcc946vnm1j9b8 Obviously, there was a battle between two apps on how to best synchronize a calender, which led to repeated cancellation of that event.

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Security and Maintenance Releases: 1.19.20, 1.22.12 and 1.23.5

2014-10-01 Thread Markus Glaser
/mediawiki-1.19.20.tar.gz.sig https://releases.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.19/mediawiki-1.19.20.patch.gz.sig Note: There is no i18n patch as there are no changes in translation. Markus Glaser (Wiki Release Team) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] REL1_24 branched in core

2014-09-25 Thread Markus Glaser
Hi Greg, actually, the WikiReleaseTeam/Release process [1] is my attempt to rewrite the release checklist [2], with more specific information about responsibilites and timeframes. I will take this opportunity to continue working on this. [1]

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Security and Maintenance Releases: 1.19.19, 1.22.11 and 1.23.4

2014-09-24 Thread Markus Glaser
https://releases.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.19/mediawiki-1.19.19.tar.gz.sig https://releases.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.19/mediawiki-1.19.19.patch.gz.sig Note: There is no i18n patch as there are no changes in translation. Markus Glaser (Wiki Release Team

Re: [Wikitech-l] Backing out REL1_24

2014-09-21 Thread Markus Glaser
Hi Isarra, Why is this ahead of schedule? Two months before release seems pretty reasonable to me; You don't want to rush this stuff, especially when balancing with breaking changes in the next release. It's ahead of the planned release schedule [1] by a few weeks. The real issues is,

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Release workflow recommendation] A public releases JSON file.

2014-09-18 Thread Markus Glaser
Hi Brian, on mediawiki-enterprise-l, Derric Atzrott suggested we use the respective WikiData item for up-to-date MediaWiki version information: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q83 It's machine readable, could easily be queried and probably converted into other formats as needed. It is also very

[Wikitech-l] Open issues for next MediaWiki maintenance releases

2014-09-17 Thread Markus Glaser
Hello everyone, next week on September, 24th, there will be another set of security and maintenance releases for MediaWiki. There are still some unresolved bugs and changes that are wating to be +2'ed. So if you feel like improving MediaWiki tarball releases in the upcoming days, you could

Re: [Wikitech-l] Open issues for next MediaWiki maintenance releases

2014-09-17 Thread Markus Glaser
Hi Lewis, yes, there will be at least one security fix. The respective bugs will be made public with the releases. Best, Markus -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Are there security fixes due to go in this release? - -- Lewis Cawte On 17/09/14 14:56, Markus Glaser wrote: Hello

[Wikitech-l] User Group Proposal: MediaWiki Cooperation

2014-09-15 Thread Markus Glaser
Dear Wikitech-l Readers, spreading open knowledge is not just about content, but also about tools. That's the reason we provide MediaWiki as an open source product. Fortunately, MediaWiki is used widely outside the Wikimedia world, so the mission is fulfilled, right? Well, not quite... Third

Re: [Wikitech-l] I'm leaving the Wikimedia Foundation

2014-09-13 Thread Markus Glaser
Hey Sumana, this is really sad news. You know, you were one of my very first contacts in the international MediaWiki world! It's hard for me to imagine this world without Sumana. The way you draw people into the community is really exceptional! I wish you all the best for your future and I

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Security and Maintenance Releases: 1.22.10 and 1.23.3

2014-08-27 Thread Markus Glaser
-1.22.10.tar.gz.sig https://releases.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.22/mediawiki-1.22.10.tar.gz.sig https://releases.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.22/mediawiki-1.22.10.patch.gz.sig Note: There is no i18n patch as there are no changes in translation. Markus Glaser (Wiki Release Team

[Wikitech-l] Pre-release announcement for MediaWiki releases 1.22.10 and 1.23.3

2014-08-26 Thread Markus Glaser
Hello everyone, this is a notice that on 27th August between 20:00-22:00 UTC we will release maintenance updates for current and legacy branches of the MediaWiki software. Downloads and patches will be available at that time. Best, Markus Wiki Release Team

[Wikitech-l] Open issues for next MediaWiki maintenance releases

2014-08-20 Thread Markus Glaser
Hello everyone, next week on August, 27th, there will be another set of maintenance releases for MediaWiki. There are still some unresolved bugs and changes that are wating to be +2'ed. So if you feel like improving MediaWiki tarball releases in the upcoming days, you could have a look at

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki for the third party community: get involved!

2014-08-04 Thread Markus Glaser
, extension dependencies, and packaging, just to name a few. Our mission, far from being complete, is just beginning.  With your help and involvement we can make an impact to improve MediaWiki for the third party community. Best, Mark Hershberger and Markus Glaser Wiki Release Team [1] http

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Security and Maintenance Releases: 1.19.18, 1.22.9 and 1.23.2

2014-07-30 Thread Markus Glaser
.tar.gz.sig https://releases.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.19/mediawiki-1.19.18.patch.gz.sig Note: There is no i18n patch as there are no changes in translation. Markus Glaser (Release Management Team) P.S.: If you are interested in shaping the future of MediaWiki, come join our session about

[Wikitech-l] Open issues for next MediaWiki maintenance releases

2014-07-24 Thread Markus Glaser
Hello everyone, next week on July, 30th, there will be another set of maintenance releases for MediaWiki. There are still some unresolved bugs and changes that are wating to be +2'ed. So if you feel like improving MediaWiki tarball releases in the upcoming days, you could have a look at these

[Wikitech-l] Proposal for release management

2014-06-13 Thread Markus Glaser
Hello everyone, Mark Hershberger and I submitted a proposal for the next year of release management: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Release_Management_RFP/2014/Mark_y_Markus_LLC In the upcoming year, we want to focus on creating a user group as a central hub for all third party related issues

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 1.23.0 released

2014-06-05 Thread Markus Glaser
://www.mediawiki.org/keys/keys.html Markus Glaser (Release Team) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 1.23.0-rc.3 release candidate is available

2014-06-02 Thread Markus Glaser
://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.23/mediawiki-core-1.23.0-rc.3.tar.gz.sig http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.23/mediawiki-1.23.0-rc.3.tar.gz.sig Public keys: https://www.mediawiki.org/keys/keys.html Markus Glaser (Release Team) ___ Wikitech-l mailing

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Security and Maintenance Releases: 1.19.16, 1.21.10 and 1.22.7

2014-05-29 Thread Markus Glaser
/1.19/mediawiki-core-1.19.16.tar.gz.sig http://releases.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.19/mediawiki-1.19.16.tar.gz.sig http://releases.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.19/mediawiki-1.19.16.patch.gz.sig Note: There is no i18n patch as there are no changes in translation. Markus Glaser (Release Team

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 1.23 release postponed by one week

2014-05-27 Thread Markus Glaser
Hi everyone, due to a blocking bug in the installer of the latest release candidate, MW 1.23.0-rc.2, we decided to release another RC before the final version as soon as a patch is available and merged. This also means, the actual release of MW 1.23.0 will be delayed by one week. New release

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 1.23.0-rc.2 release candidate is out

2014-05-23 Thread Markus Glaser
/mediawiki-1.23.0-rc.2.tar.gz GPG signatures: http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.23/mediawiki-core-1.23.0-rc.2.tar.gz.sig http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.23/mediawiki-1.23.0-rc.2.tar.gz.sig Public keys: https://www.mediawiki.org/keys/keys.html Markus Glaser (Release Team

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Security and Maintenance Releases: 1.22.6 and 1.21.9

2014-04-24 Thread Markus Glaser
-1.21.9.tar.gz.sig http://releases.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-1.21.9.tar.gz.sig http://releases.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-1.21.9.patch.gz.sig Note: There is no i18n patch as there are no changes in translation. Markus Glaser (Release Management Team

[Wikitech-l] 1.23.0 release candidate ready for download

2014-04-24 Thread Markus Glaser
/mediawiki/1.23/mediawiki-1.23.0rc0.tar.gz.sig Public keys: https://www.mediawiki.org/keys/keys.html Markus Glaser (Release Management Team) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] Branch REL1_23 created, 1.23.0 release in 6 weeks

2014-04-15 Thread Markus Glaser
Hello everyone, this is to announce the REL1_23 branch for the upcoming MediaWiki 1.23.0 release was created. The release is scheduled for 6 weeks from now, no later than May 29th. In order to facilitate this, please make sure anything you want in 1.23 is ready within a week. The first release

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki maintenance release 1.19.15 is now available

2014-04-02 Thread Markus Glaser
.tar.gz.sig http://releases.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.19/mediawiki-1.19.15.tar.gz.sig http://releases.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.19/mediawiki-1.19.15.patch.gz.sig Notice: There is no patch file for i18n changes as there are no changes to the previous version. Markus Glaser (Release Management Team

[Wikitech-l] Tablet skin design

2014-04-01 Thread Markus Glaser
Hello everyone, Florence asked me to forward this request to the list, which I am happy to do :) Markus Original Message Subject:Tablet skin design Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 21:25:31 +0200 From: Florence Devouard anthe...@yahoo.com Newsgroups:

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Security and Maintenance Releases: 1.22.5, 1.21.8 and 1.19.14

2014-03-27 Thread Markus Glaser
/mediawiki-core-1.19.14.tar.gz.sig http://releases.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.19/mediawiki-1.19.14.tar.gz.sig http://releases.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.19/mediawiki-1.19.14.patch.gz.sig Markus Glaser (Release Management Team) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Security and Maintenance Releases: 1.22.3, 1.21.6 and 1.19.12

2014-02-27 Thread Markus Glaser
Hello everyone, I would like to announce the release of MediaWiki 1.22.3, 1.21.6 and 1.19.12. These releases fix a number of security related bugs that could affect users of MediaWiki. In addition, MediaWiki 1.22.3 is a maintenance release. It fixes several bugs. You can consult the

[Wikitech-l] Scheduled MediaWiki release and known issues

2014-02-24 Thread Markus Glaser
Hello list, there is a scheduled maintenance release of MediaWiki on Thursday, 27th of February. I would like to take the opportunity to point you to the list of known issues [1]. Maybe we can get a few of those fixed until mid of the week? Best, Markus [1]

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drop support for PHP 5.3

2014-02-22 Thread Markus Glaser
We should strongly consider ensuring that the latest stable releases of Ubuntu and probably RHEL (or maybe fedora) can run MediaWiki. - Ryan Kind of agree ;) I'd like to see the next MediaWiki LTS version (1.23) to support PHP 5.3. MW1.23LTS has a scheduled release date at end of April (we

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 1.22.0 released

2013-12-06 Thread Markus Glaser
Dear all, I am happy to announce the availability of the first stable release of the new MediaWiki 1.22 release series. MediaWiki 1.22 is a large release that contains many new features and bug fixes. This is a summary of the major changes of interest to users. You can consult the

Re: [Wikitech-l] [MediaWiki-l] Announcement: Mark y Markus leading MediaWiki Release Management

2013-07-26 Thread Markus Glaser
on the blog: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/07/26/future-third-party-releases-media wiki/ Today, the Wikimedia Foundation is pleased to announce that we have contracted with two long-time members of the MediaWiki community–Mark Hershberger and Markus Glaser–to manage and drive forward third

[Wikitech-l] SMW Developer Workshop - when?

2013-06-18 Thread Markus Glaser
Hi Yury, some time ago you proposed a SMW webinar for developers [1], which I find is a really great idea! But it seems no date has been set yet. As there are a number of interested participants, I think we’re ready to take this one step further J and find a time slot. Shall we use the talk

Re: [Wikitech-l] New extension: Special:ExtensionStatus (opinions?)

2013-05-13 Thread Markus Glaser
Hi Moriel, I like that idea very much. In the use case I have in mind, though, I do have actual releases. Do you think it's possible for your extension to also consider tags? I am thinking of something like a tagging convention, e.g. RELEASE v1.20. ExtensionStatus could then parse the tag and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Using mediawiki from within the Social networks?

2012-10-02 Thread Markus Glaser
Hi Yury, we experimented with MediaWiki as a Facebook-App. Basically this is using MW in an iFrame and passing through the Facebook authentication. Articles can be liked and commented via FB. When you edit something, it publishes that to the user's stream. Here's a prototype, in German

Re: [Wikitech-l] gerrit search

2012-09-06 Thread Markus Glaser
Thank you Sumana! I know a lot more about searching in gerrit now, which helps a lot in general :) Cheers, Markus -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Sumana Harihareswara [mailto:suma...@wikimedia.org] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 6. September 2012 19:18 An: Wikimedia developers Cc: Markus Glaser

[Wikitech-l] gerrit search

2012-09-05 Thread Markus Glaser
Hi all, I am trying to find a (any) html file in gerrit (trying to find out whether it is displayed as HTML in a browser, but that is not the issue here…). When I enter “html” in the search box, it apparently searches commit messages for html (?). When I try the search syntax as described here

Re: [Wikitech-l] Searching in mediawiki instance with solr?

2012-08-09 Thread Markus Glaser
Hi Uwe, the BlueSpice Extension [1] uses Solr to search MediaWiki. Cheers, Markus (mglaser) [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Blue_spice -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Uwe

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki tarballs and the WMF

2012-06-06 Thread Markus Glaser
Definitely interested! I have just finished some packaging for the Web App Gallery and would like to see (and add) some more flexibility to the installer. Also, at SF Hackathon, we had some discussion about the use of MediaWiki by outside parties, their issues and how to make their lives easier

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki tarballs and the WMF

2012-06-06 Thread Markus Glaser
Also, at SF Hackathon, we had some discussion about the use of MediaWiki by outside parties, their issues and how to make their lives easier ;) What did your discussions conclude? Actually, it was even earlier...;) Discussion notes can be found at

Re: [Wikitech-l] selenium browser testing proposal and prototype

2012-04-10 Thread Markus Glaser
Some time ago some people from the test framework team started working on a Selenium Framework for MediaWiki [1], in PHP and with Selenium 1.0. One of the reasons the project discontinued was that there was no clear case of when Selenium would be useful as opposed to unit tests, esp. using

Re: [Wikitech-l] Hackathon Berlin 2012

2012-03-29 Thread Markus Glaser
+1 mglaser -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Thomas Gries Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. März 2012 22:58 An: Wikimedia developers; Nicole Ebber Betreff: [Wikitech-l] Hackathon Berlin 2012

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mark Hershberger departing Wikimedia Foundation in May

2012-03-20 Thread Markus Glaser
Thanks, Mark! You were one of my first contacts in the wmdev community and made me feel very welcome here. Cheers, Markus ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] JavaScript profiling

2012-01-31 Thread Markus Glaser
Hi all, I am trying to profile the JavaScript bit of an extension I maintain. Is there any recommended method similar to wfProfileIn/Out in MediaWiki? How do you do profiling on ResourceLoader? Cheers, Markus ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] JavaScript profiling

2012-01-31 Thread Markus Glaser
:52 An: Wikimedia developers Betreff: Re: [Wikitech-l] JavaScript profiling On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Markus Glaser gla...@hallowelt.biz wrote: Hi all, I am trying to profile the JavaScript bit of an extension I

Re: [Wikitech-l] New committer

2012-01-11 Thread Markus Glaser
Hi Robert, glad to see you around! Cheers, Markus -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Sumana Harihareswara Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. Januar 2012 02:26 An: Wikimedia developers Betreff:

Re: [Wikitech-l] New committer

2012-01-11 Thread Markus Glaser
Hi DJ Bauch, I had some trouble with TortoiseSVN and pageant recently after updating SVN to 1.7 (and the new svn format) on Win7. The solution for me was to update pageant to a current version (I think it was 0.62). Maybe this helps you as well? Regards, Markus -Ursprüngliche

Re: [Wikitech-l] New committer

2011-11-05 Thread Markus Glaser
Alexander Gesinn (planetenxin) now has extensions access. Hi Alex, nice to see you around! Markus (mglaser) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upcoming VipsScaler deployment

2011-11-04 Thread Markus Glaser
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: Step 1: Deploy VipsScaler extension, but only use it for PNGs over 12.5MP and/or TIFFs (which currently generate errors).  Let this sit in production a while, fixing any bugs we find with this configuration. I should

Re: [Wikitech-l] Brown bag - Selenium Testing

2011-09-30 Thread Markus Glaser
and they will be picked up by the unit tests if it is desired. I think working on unit testing code is a lot of fun, so I look forward to getting this in to core. - Jeremy On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Markus Glaser gla...@hallowelt.biz wrote: Hi Jeremy, I am quite interested in your work

Re: [Wikitech-l] automated testing with Sikuli?

2011-09-19 Thread Markus Glaser
to the pixel. The question is, do we have the need for testing screen layout? Cheers, Markus P.S.: CCing wikitech, since this might be of broader interest. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Sumana Harihareswara [mailto:suma...@wikimedia.org] Gesendet: Dienstag, 30. August 2011 14:02 An: Markus

Re: [Wikitech-l] Brown bag - Selenium Testing

2011-09-19 Thread Markus Glaser
Hi Jeremy, I am quite interested in your work, since I wrote part of the core Selenium support [1], which is now on hold. So, how does your code relate to the SeleniumFramework? What are the main differences? I still think there is a big chance in Selenium tests for extension programmers:

Re: [Wikitech-l] automated testing with Sikuli?

2011-09-19 Thread Markus Glaser
that searing for something in Google returns a search result - the results change constantly, how would you test that? I think it's a cool tool, and we should consider it when testing, but not go out of our way to use it. - Trevor On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Markus Glaser gla...@hallowelt.biz

Re: [Wikitech-l] automated testing with Sikuli?

2011-09-19 Thread Markus Glaser
. -- Markus (mglaser) On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Markus Glaser gla...@hallowelt.biz wrote: Hi, while I don't like the idea of introducing more and more testing tools, I can still see an interesting use case here: as of now, we have no way to test whether a given layout (HTML, JS, CSS

Re: [Wikitech-l] On third-party users of MediaWiki and collaboration with upstream

2011-08-20 Thread Markus Glaser
would be very interested to hear their thoughts on that. Cheers, Markus (mglaser) Von: Jack Phoenix [mailto:j...@countervandalism.net] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. August 2011 20:07 An: Wikimedia developers; Sean Colombo; Jack Herrick; reu...@wikihow.com; joachim.b...@twoonix.com; Markus Glaser

Re: [Wikitech-l] Do we need Selenium for anything anymore? (was: [Selenium] IDE test for regressing bug)

2011-07-07 Thread Markus Glaser
Hello everybody, that's also the way I see it. Selenium tests do test the application as a whole. While I agree that a lot of things that are currently tested with Selenium can be substituted with QUnit or similar, I still think that selenium tests should be used to check more complex

Re: [Wikitech-l] testing of localization

2011-03-23 Thread Markus Glaser
Hello, What would be nice for a first take would be if, from translatewiki, one could click a link that would take one to a list of screens that show the message in question, with the text highlighted even. Even if the only thing we had to work from was a display of the English language

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Selenium] Structured description of tests?

2011-03-22 Thread Markus Glaser
Hi Benedict, one way to make tests more structured and easier to maintain would be to provide a standard set of operations within the Selenium Framework. A list of suggestions can already be found at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/SeleniumFramework#Notes_and_further_improvements. However, this

Re: [Wikitech-l] testing of localization

2011-03-22 Thread Markus Glaser
Hello, The right way to do it is to have a test suite: A document that walks the translator through all the use cases of the feature so that all possible messages permutations and combinations appear. Possibly, Selenium tests could be helpful. A Selenium test basically acts as a remote

[Wikitech-l] [Selenium] Issue with importing a test database

2011-02-03 Thread Markus Glaser
Hello everybody, for the Selenium Framework I have a very specific database related issue which is hard for me to decide. This is the problem: In order to have a fresh state for every test, we agreed to have a test database (and image folder, but this is a sidetrack now) for every test suite

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Selenium] How to use?

2011-02-03 Thread Markus Glaser
Hi Benedict, at the moment, the framework is still work in progress, so it is not shipped with any current releases (afaik). Also, using it requires some changes in the includes folder as well as the new maintenance class, which is not available until MW 1.16. But there is hope for you, I know

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Selenium] Issue with importing a test database

2011-02-03 Thread Markus Glaser
Hi, I think it can be removed safely. Great to hear! Although in this case I would just run mysqldump with --skip-extended-insert so that it doesn't create such long lines. Yes, I tried that. But there are tables like l10ncache or objectcache that store serialized objects which produce long

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Selenium] Issue with importing a test database

2011-02-03 Thread Markus Glaser
Although in this case I would just run mysqldump with --skip-extended-insert so that it doesn't create such long lines. Yes, I tried that. But there are tables like l10ncache or objectcache that store serialized objects which produce long lines even in that case. Still, I think that should

Re: [Wikitech-l] Removing test suites from trunk

2010-12-06 Thread Markus Glaser
Hi all, concerning the selenium part of the tests, I suggest to treat functional tests and regression tests differently: * The framework and test runner should remain in maintenance/tests, since it provides a testing infrastructure for MW * We are working on a MediaWiki smoke test which makes

Re: [Wikitech-l] using parserTests code for selenium test framework

2010-10-15 Thread Markus Glaser
the ressources for that id I would be very happy about comments and thoughts. Are we heading in the right direction? Cheers, Markus -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Markus Glaser

Re: [Wikitech-l] using parserTests code for selenium test framework

2010-09-29 Thread Markus Glaser
Hi, since the wiki under test is not neccessarily the wiki running the test, it might be useful to visualize that (I have numbered the individual steps to make reference to them easier in the discussion): testrunner wiki under test --

Re: [Wikitech-l] using parserTests code for selenium test framework

2010-09-22 Thread Markus Glaser
Hi, here are my thoughts about phpunit and selenium testing. The wiki under test is set up with a master database consisting of a single objectcache table. The entries of this table specify a test run identifier as primary key and temporary resource identifiers as dependent fields. If I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Selenium Framework - standard directory for selenium tests

2010-09-17 Thread Markus Glaser
the tests in extensions/EXTENSION/tests/selenium Regards, Markus Markus Glaser Social Web Technologien Leiter Softwareentwicklung Hallo Welt! - Medienwerkstatt GmbH __ Untere Bachgasse 15 93047 Regensburg Tel. +49 (0) 941 - 56 95 94 92 Fax.  +49 (0) 941 - 50 27 58 13

Re: [Wikitech-l] Selenium Framework - test run configuration data

2010-09-07 Thread Markus Glaser
to fill the settings from globals (as is) or ini files (as Mark propses). Those who use the framework, however, would not have to rewrite their code. Regards, Markus Markus Glaser Social Web Technologien Leiter Softwareentwicklung Hallo Welt! - Medienwerkstatt GmbH

[Wikitech-l] Selenium Framework - Question on coding conventions

2010-08-05 Thread Markus Glaser
Hello everybody, in order to further develop the selenium framework [1], I need to make a few design decisions, especially on coding conventions, which I'd like to discuss on this list, since they affect the way of how extension- and core developers write their tests. 1) Where are the tests

Re: [Wikitech-l] Selenium testing framework

2010-05-24 Thread Markus Glaser
-l] Selenium testing framework On Sun, 02 May 2010 02:20:06 +0200, Markus Glaser wrote: Hi everybody, at the Wkimedia Developers' Workshop, I introduced a Selenium testing framework for MediaWiki. Since it has now been promoted to maintenance/tests, I have provided some initial

Re: [Wikitech-l] Selenium testing framework

2010-05-18 Thread Markus Glaser
Hi Dan, I had these error messages once when I used Firefox 3.6 for testing. Until recently, Selenium did not support this browser. Apparently now they do, but I did not have a chance to test this yet. So the solution for me was to point Selenium to a Firefox 3.5. Cheers, Markus

Re: [Wikitech-l] Selenium testing framework

2010-05-17 Thread Markus Glaser
Hi Dan, the test fails at checking the prerequisites. It tries to load the image page and looks for a specific div element which is not present if the image was not uploaded correctly (id=filetoc). This might have changed across the versions of MediaWiki. Did you install the PagedTiffHandler

[Wikitech-l] Selenium testing framework

2010-05-01 Thread Markus Glaser
comments and ideas for further improvement. Also, if you intend to use the framework for your tests, please let me know. I will be happy to assist. Regards, Markus Glaser __ Social Web Technologien Leiter Softwareentwicklung Hallo Welt! - Medienwerkstatt GmbH