El jue, 07 de nov de 2002, a las 00:48, Sylvain Petreolle escribio:
Excuse me if I feel scared, but is this Appdb or something else ??
Now the question is:
a) One page for all the applications.
b) A index page with a table:
Am Mit, 2002-11-06 um 22.11 schrieb Alexandre Julliard:
Well, I personally have no love for SGML, and I think the man pages
are just fine in troff.
If you don't like SGML, why is it the docs are SGML ?
If we'd convert those few man pages, we'd have more flexibility
(ability to combine docs
When I using wine start a winapp, it first download some data and then
save it to the disk. But when save the data, it always says Disk full
while accessing C:\south\Base.map. What's the matter with it? How could
I resolve it? Pls give me some hints?
Best regards.
/yf
yf == yf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
yf When I using wine start a winapp, it first download some data and
yf then save it to the disk. But when save the data, it always says
yf Disk full while accessing C:\south\Base.map. What's the matter with
yf it? How could I resolve it? Pls
On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 11:43:39AM +0100, Ulf Dambacher wrote:
Just one tip:
Why not use a wiki-Engine to creaate/maintain a faq, like e.g.
www.squirrelmail.net does?
I recommend phpwiki (http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/) This way users can
maintain the faq and it is most up to date!
The #1
Dmitry Timoshkov wrote:
Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm trying to revamp notepad a little. In particular, I'm trying to add
the select font option to it. This is problematic under the RICHEDIT
control, as each character there can, potentially, have it's own font.
In
Dimitrie O. Paun a écrit:
On November 6, 2002 01:59 pm, Joerg Mayer wrote:
How about providing a distributions directory where the (in)official
maintainers for the distributions can just check in whatever they want
once they are found/named?
Let's just first find them, that's the hard part.
We're still missing one. Any takers?
--
Dimi.
On November 6, 2002 01:59 pm, Joerg Mayer wrote:
How about providing a distributions directory where the (in)official
maintainers for the distributions can just check in whatever they want
once they are found/named?
Let's just first find them, that's the hard part. We can figure out
where to
Dimitrie O. Paun a écrit:
On November 7, 2002 10:42 am, Vincent Béron wrote:
I can take the position for RedHat (at least for 8.0). My base system is
stock, so there shouldn't be libs problems (at least for those following
the official updates).
OK, you're on. BTW, if you compile *C* code on
On November 7, 2002 10:42 am, Vincent Béron wrote:
I can take the position for RedHat (at least for 8.0). My base system is
stock, so there shouldn't be libs problems (at least for those following
the official updates).
OK, you're on. BTW, if you compile *C* code on RH8, is it OK on 7.x?
I
Vincent Béron a écrit:
Dimitrie O. Paun a écrit:
Should the starting point be the latest RH packaged Wine (including
their own patches), or start fresh with pristine 20021031?
What patches do they have???
IIRC, it was mostly in the launcher scripts, but I could be wrong. Wait
a sec,
Andreas Mohr a écrit:
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 10:33:50AM -0500, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
On November 6, 2002 01:59 pm, Joerg Mayer wrote:
How about providing a distributions directory where the (in)official
maintainers for the distributions can just check in whatever they want
once they are
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 10:33:50AM -0500, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
On November 6, 2002 01:59 pm, Joerg Mayer wrote:
How about providing a distributions directory where the (in)official
maintainers for the distributions can just check in whatever they want
once they are found/named?
Let's
On November 7, 2002 11:11 am, Vincent Béron wrote:
- Copying a global config if none exists in $HOME/.wine
Hm. Don't know what to think about this one.
- Add a destdir to Make.rules.in (for RPM build)
I thought we don't need one.
- Some modifications to wineshelllink for RH specific things
On November 7, 2002 11:08 am, Andreas Mohr wrote:
I'd suggest a top-level directory like distrib/ or package/.
Hmm, or is there some kind of standard on naming such directories
to be used by the various package scripts ?
I don't think this is important, all we need is for Alexandre
to let them
Martin Wilck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If you don't like SGML, why is it the docs are SGML ?
Because I'm not the one writing the docs, and the people who write
them prefer to do it in SGML. I do update the man pages from time to
time, and I think troff is better for that; so if you want to
I was wondering if it would be possible to add a search feature to the
mailing list archives, while we're doing the WineHQ redesign ?
I think that would be a very useful feature, for both, new and old
developers.
Or perhaps there is already a search available, hidden somewhere
out of sight? :-)
On November 7, 2002 11:31 am, Alexandre Julliard wrote:
I do update the man pages from time to
time, and I think troff is better for that;
I don't mean to argue (this is a subjective opinion),
but I am curious (knowing that you typically have
valid reasoning behind your opinions :)) why you
On November 7, 2002 12:03 pm, Joerg Mayer wrote:
I think there is some misunderstanding as to what I intended with my
remark: Maintaining a package for a distro includes a spec file,
specific patches (e.g. to paths, configure, makefiles, other build
tools specific stuff), Icons, desktop files
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 11:30:40AM -0500, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
I don't think this is important, all we need is for Alexandre
to let them know where he wants the packages placed (via ftp in
a dir, via email, etc.)
I think there is some misunderstanding as to what I intended with my
remark:
Should I email patches to Jeremy, or just update the pages myself and email
those to Jeremy or Alexandre?
-Dustin
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Dimitrie O. Paun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I don't mean to argue (this is a subjective opinion),
but I am curious (knowing that you typically have
valid reasoning behind your opinions :)) why you would
think troff 'is better'. It's maybe simpler in the
sense that it does not require new
On November 6, 2002 05:41 pm, Carlos Lozano wrote:
Now the question is:
a) One page for all the applications.
Yes. This has to be _one_ page, that user can just look at,
and get their appetites wet :)
[...]
Every application should include at least the next info:
o Name.
o Version.
o
On November 7, 2002 11:40 am, Andreas Mohr wrote:
[Cc:ed to the list maybe people want to comment of it]
Now how to solve the winelauncher wineboot launch problem ?
This needs to be done on first launch only, and it needs to avoid race
conditions.
Maybe we could add the lockfile command
Dimitrie O. Paun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On November 7, 2002 12:03 pm, Joerg Mayer wrote:
I think there is some misunderstanding as to what I intended with my
remark: Maintaining a package for a distro includes a spec file,
specific patches (e.g. to paths, configure, makefiles, other
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Behalf Of Dimitrie O. Paun
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 11:21 PM
To: Wine Devel
Subject: Wine 0.9 TODO v0.2
Folks,
This time in HTML Technicolor, at:
On Thu, 2002-11-07 at 11:19, Dustin Navea wrote:
--- Sylvain Petreolle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Excuse me if I feel scared, but is this Appdb or something else ??
No. It should be a group of applications tested by wine
developers (or application mantainers) and what should work
On November 7, 2002 12:37 pm, Medland, Bill wrote:
My suggestion is that, since we are talking about fairly stable releases,
we ought to move all the sections concerned with building from source.
I think so. User Guide should all about how you use Wine, not how you
develop it, build it, etc. We
On Thursday 07 November 2002 3:44 pm, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
We're still missing one. Any takers?
Yes, I'd really like to do that. What do I have to do to join up?
--- Rick Romero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 2002-11-07 at 11:19, Dustin Navea wrote:
--- Sylvain Petreolle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Excuse me if I feel scared, but is this Appdb or something else ??
No. It should be a group of applications tested by wine
developers
--- Dimitrie O. Paun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On November 7, 2002 12:37 pm, Medland, Bill wrote:
My suggestion is that, since we are talking about fairly stable releases,
we ought to move all the sections concerned with building from source.
I think so. User Guide should all about how you
On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
This refers to binary packages. I thought FreeBSD usually download
source, is it customary in *BSD world to expect precompiled binaries?
Yeah, at least FreeBSD is that user friendly. ;-)
On November 7, 2002 12:23 pm, Alexandre Julliard wrote:
Clearly the tools are an advantage, but I also think the markup syntax
is better. Troff is not really that good, texinfo is better IMO; but
with both you have a reasonable chance to read the document in source
format, by simply skipping
On November 7, 2002 12:58 pm, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
I agree, but it's really a nice thing, and it's not doing much better than
*Sigh* s/nice/niche/
--
Dimi.
Problem with using the AppDB is that it is highly disorganized, and
most of
the apps are non-working in there, his suggestion his that we only
list
'officially' tested and working apps on this/these page(s) AFAICS..
Maybe you could add a Wine tested/Approved Stamp or something
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 09:30:10AM -0800, Alexandre Julliard wrote:
The spec files etc. should not be in the tree, that's right
Why shouldn't thy be in the tree? Actually, I prefer to install Software
(including self compiled sw) via rpm - it makes it much more comfortable
to switch versions and
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 02:18:20AM -0800, Ryan Cumming wrote:
Hi,
KaZaA Lite 2.0 calls DeleteFile with an empty path at shutdown, which triggers
ERR(Empty path passed\n). It seems a bit silly to call that an error, so
this patch changes the message to a warning. It also does a
On November 7, 2002 01:06 pm, Sylvain Petreolle wrote:
No duplication.
Agreed.
And after some time we could display this page by default.
There is no duplication. The AppDB, and this list server
different purposes, as I explained before. Let's not mix
the two, if not necessary.
--
Dimi.
Could you give the name of a SGML editor viewer that supports syntax
highlighting ?
As for the almost-content nature of the SGML markup, I am 100% with
you.
I find it very difficult to work on it, plain text. But if your
editor
supports syntax highlighting (and most do, nowadays), it can
On November 7, 2002 01:24 pm, Sylvain Petreolle wrote:
Could you give the name of a SGML editor viewer that supports syntax
highlighting ?
vim
emacs
:)
--
Dimi.
They key in user.reg that controls whether winedbg pops up in its
own window or in the shell in which wine was started seems to be
getting ignored. When I set UseXTerm=dword:, and run my
app, it crashes and brings up winedbg in a separate window. When
I look at user.reg again, UseXTerm
-Original Message-
From: Dimitrie O. Paun [mailto:dpaun;rogers.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 9:42 AM
To: Medland, Bill; Wine Devel
Subject: Re: Wine 0.9 TODO v0.2
On November 7, 2002 12:37 pm, Medland, Bill wrote:
My suggestion is that, since we are talking about
On November 7, 2002 01:24 pm, Joerg Mayer wrote:
Why shouldn't thy be in the tree?
To avoid proliferation of badly built packages.
--
Dimi.
On Thu, 2002-11-07 at 12:16, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
On November 7, 2002 01:06 pm, Sylvain Petreolle wrote:
No duplication.
Agreed.
And after some time we could display this page by default.
There is no duplication. The AppDB, and this list server
different purposes, as I explained
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 10:44:55AM -0500, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
We're still missing one. Any takers?
What do you mean by Debian maintainer, precisely? The most recent wine
package in Debian is version 0.0.20021007-1, uploaded October 20 by Ove
Kaaven. Has Ove indicated that he is no longer
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 01:41:43PM -0500, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
To avoid proliferation of badly built packages.
Hello? Iff the spec file is bad, then I'd rather fix it then hide it
somewhere. I think I've heard that arguement before - was it one for
open source perhaps?
ciao
Jörg
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On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 06:21:14PM +0100, Patrik Stridvall wrote:
Gerald Pfeifer configure change broke FreeBSD 4.7
This should fix it.
ROTFL !!
The man who is constantly annoyed about having to fix stupid Linux
breakage on *BSD manages to break *BSD :-))
--
Andreas Mohr
On November 7, 2002 01:42 pm, Rick Romero wrote:
But if App X is listed in AppDB, and on 'the list', wouldn't it be
duplicated?
Why wouldn't you want to use the same (MySQL/Postgres/Yourfav) table?
I DO NOT want that page be automatically generated, because:
-- want want to be able to
On November 7, 2002 01:55 pm, Steve Langasek wrote:
What do you mean by Debian maintainer, precisely? The most recent wine
package in Debian is version 0.0.20021007-1, uploaded October 20 by Ove
Kaaven. Has Ove indicated that he is no longer interested in maintaining
this package? (He has
On November 7, 2002 01:50 pm, Joerg Mayer wrote:
Hello? Iff the spec file is bad, then I'd rather fix it then hide it
somewhere. I think I've heard that arguement before - was it one for
open source perhaps?
Well, I will not go into this debate, but there are problems in naming
packages, etc.
Same issue here.
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : They key in user.reg that
controls whether winedbg pops up in its
own window or in the shell in which wine was started seems to be
getting ignored. When I set UseXTerm=dword:, and run my
app, it crashes and brings up winedbg in a
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 07:24:18PM +0100, Joerg Mayer wrote:
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 09:30:10AM -0800, Alexandre Julliard wrote:
The spec files etc. should not be in the tree, that's right
Why shouldn't thy be in the tree? Actually, I prefer to install Software
(including self compiled sw)
On November 7, 2002 12:41 pm, Michael Wetherell wrote:
On Thursday 07 November 2002 3:44 pm, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
We're still missing one. Any takers?
Yes, I'd really like to do that. What do I have to do to join up?
You have to know what you are doing. This is _very_ imprortant,
because
At 20.15 07/11/2002 +0100, Sylvain Petreolle wrote:
Same issue here.
I did it this way:
- right click on the winedbg window
- choose Properties
- go to the Configuration tab
- specify a value for the Height of the Buffer zone somewhere in the 1000
range (1000 rows/25 should give you 40 pages
Also it would be nice if opengl could similarly be loaded on the fly.
I will put this on my todo list Will try to do it the same moment I want
to try to properly separate the DLL (and at the same time fix the NWN tools
problems).
No date promised, though :-)
Lionel
On November 7, 2002 02:15 pm, Sylvain Petreolle wrote:
Same issue here.
Please checkout this thread:
http://www.winehq.com/hypermail/wine-devel/2002/10/index.html#422
--
Dimi.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
They key in user.reg that controls whether winedbg pops up in its
own window or in the shell in which wine was started seems to be
getting ignored. When I set UseXTerm=dword:, and run my
app, it crashes and brings up winedbg in a separate window. When
I
On Thursday 07 November 2002 6:59 pm, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
On November 7, 2002 01:55 pm, Steve Langasek wrote:
What do you mean by Debian maintainer, precisely? The most recent wine
package in Debian is version 0.0.20021007-1, uploaded October 20 by Ove
Kaaven. Has Ove indicated that
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Hash: SHA1
Hi!
The only program I use at windows on home is wzebra, a windows based reversi
game (http://www.nada.kth.se/~gunnar/othello.html). (linux version coming,
but it's binary only :-()
Unfortunately current wine version needs over 10 minutes time
doesnt seems to save this setting between debugger calls so its of no use to
me.
why does it turn the debug msgs on when i say --debugmsg -all !?!
that is effectively broken... I'll look into it
dont know what kind of app it is, since these lines appear before winedbg says
it loaded debug
El jue, 07 de nov de 2002, a las 18:09, Sylvain Petreolle escribio:
Excuse me if I feel scared, but is this Appdb or something else ??
No. It should be a group of applications tested by wine
developers (or application mantainers) and what should work more
or less flawless (without
[...]
o Download URL (when it is possible)
Yes. We should favour freeware apps, so that users can
actually download, and try them out right away, without
silly registrations, etc.
The entire thing should fit in one line, like so:
WinRAR 3.0 A nice archiving utility [screenshot
On November 7, 2002 05:11 pm, Carlos Lozano wrote:
hmm, good, some applications could be very usable even
if some feature is buggy, it is complex test applications
with more of 15-20 different options, and if the bugs are
known it could be listed in a different page (for example
together to
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Michael Wetherell wrote:
On Thursday 07 November 2002 6:59 pm, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
On November 7, 2002 01:55 pm, Steve Langasek wrote:
What do you mean by Debian maintainer, precisely? The most recent wine
package in Debian is version 0.0.20021007-1, uploaded
Lots of updates on this one:
http://www.dssd.ca/Wine-0.9-TODO-0.3.html
The actual TODO included below as text, for your
commenting convenience.
A. WineHQ work
Website redesign [IN PROGRESS]
worker: Jeremy Newman
status: backend is getting finalized
updated: Nov 7, 2002
Reorganize
Dimitrie O. Paun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Make sure the .spec file format is fairly stable [IN PROGRESS]
worker: Dimitrie O. Paun
status: investigating
updated: Nov 7, 2002
what: can we get rid of the rsrc directive?
Yes, I'll do that.
--
Alexandre Julliard
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can you also create a testcase for this problem?
Hmm, I've never written a Wine testcase before. Does the following look good?
-Ryan
ChangeLog:
Add test for DeleteFileA with empty paths
Index: file.c
===
RCS file:
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Dustin Navea wrote:
Should I email patches to Jeremy, or just update the pages myself and email
those to Jeremy or Alexandre?
If 'Docu updates' refers to the Wine SGML documentation, then the right
thing to do is to post the relevant patch to wine-patches. Then they
should
--- Francois Gouget [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Dustin Navea wrote:
Should I email patches to Jeremy, or just update the pages myself and
email
those to Jeremy or Alexandre?
If 'Docu updates' refers to the Wine SGML documentation, then the right
thing to do is to post
Dustin Navea wrote:
Should I email patches to Jeremy, or just update the pages myself and email
those to Jeremy or Alexandre?
Update the sgml and send the patches (diff -u ) to wine-devel.
--
Tony Lambregts
Ove Kaaven wrote:
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Michael Wetherell wrote:
On Thursday 07 November 2002 6:59 pm, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
On November 7, 2002 01:55 pm, Steve Langasek wrote:
What do you mean by Debian maintainer, precisely? The most recent wine
package in Debian is version
Dustin Navea wrote:
--- Francois Gouget [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Dustin Navea wrote:
Should I email patches to Jeremy, or just update the pages myself and
email
those to Jeremy or Alexandre?
If 'Docu updates' refers to the Wine SGML documentation,
Agreed, should be cool !
Indeed, we can have a small, unintrusive [Notes] link,
over to the right, where we can add a small blurb about
potential problems, etc.
--
Dimi.
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why don't you use the Search box onto http://www.winehq.com ?
--- Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : I was wondering if it would be
possible to add a search feature to
the
mailing list archives, while we're doing the WineHQ redesign ?
I think that would be a very useful feature, for both, new
Ove Kaaven wrote:
If you want, you or someone else could help by checking the Debian bugs on
the package though
Ok sounds good. Did you want me to just contact you with a list of bugs you
can close out, or should I apply to become a Debian maintainer so that I can
close them out?
On Friday
On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 04:13:37AM +, Michael Wetherell wrote:
Ove Kaaven wrote:
If you want, you or someone else could help by checking the Debian bugs on
the package though
Ok sounds good. Did you want me to just contact you with a list of bugs you
can close out, or should I apply
--- Tony Lambregts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dustin Navea wrote:
--- Francois Gouget [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Dustin Navea wrote:
Should I email patches to Jeremy, or just update the pages myself and
email
those to Jeremy or Alexandre?
Hannu Kotipalo wrote:
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Hash: SHA1
Hi!
The only program I use at windows on home is wzebra, a windows based reversi
game (http://www.nada.kth.se/~gunnar/othello.html). (linux version coming,
but it's binary only :-()
Unfortunately current wine version needs
Dustin Navea wrote:
--- Tony Lambregts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dustin Navea wrote:
--- Francois Gouget [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Dustin Navea wrote:
Should I email patches to Jeremy, or just update the pages myself and
email
Is it normal that I cannot find a rule to build wine.info from
wine.texinfo in the Makefiles?
The file seems to still be worked on (last change september 20th), but I
must build it with makeinfo manually (or add it to the spec file).
Vincent
On November 7, 2002 11:01 pm, Vincent Béron wrote:
Is it normal that I cannot find a rule to build wine.info from
wine.texinfo in the Makefiles?
The file is deprecated, and needs to be merged into the Devel Guide.
The file seems to still be worked on (last change september 20th), but I
must
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